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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] World of Warcraft: A Look at the Timeless Isle

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OP  7/28/13 8:09:04 PM#1

The forthcoming v5.4 patch for World of Warcraft is currently on the public test realm and we've got a great preview of the new zone, Timeless Isle, in today's WoW Factor. See why we think this may be a great time to hop back into WoW. Read on!

Just off the southeastern coast of the Jade Forest, a small new island has emerged from the mists - an island frozen in time where the sun hangs still in the sky and never sets. What caused the sudden appearance of this new place remains unknown but there are a few theories being tossed around by those who have recently ventured there. Perhaps it will be you who discovers its mystery.

Read more of Reza Lackey's The WoW Factor: A Look at the Timeless Isle.

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Logic be damned!

7/29/13 12:50:07 PM#2

Sounds like a good stab at taking elements from say GW2 and putting them into WoW.

Could be a much more interesting time sink than Dailies.

Interested to see how this is perceived.

I've probably been lurking for way, way too long.


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7/29/13 12:56:42 PM#3
World of Daily's hasn't been worth jumping back into since The Lich King.

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7/29/13 1:32:39 PM#4

Looking forward to it ,thanks for the write-up!




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7/29/13 1:40:50 PM#5

I haven't exactly followed the whole thing, but wasn't there something about "Virtual Realms" with 5.4?


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7/29/13 2:16:52 PM#6
Great! How wonderful, we have another Isle and more dailies... YAY! (sarcasm)

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7/29/13 2:30:21 PM#7

The reason WoW is loosing players isn't because of the graphics or how old the game is. Again, nothing in WoW is epic anymore, raid finished in days not months, everything is too easy, period.




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7/29/13 2:50:58 PM#8
Originally posted by Jorl
Great! How wonderful, we have another Isle and more dailies... YAY! (sarcasm)

If you read the post, you'd see that the Timeless Isle has very few daily quests and no quest hubs. It's all dynamic events and player driven with very little hand-holding. It's unlike anything previously in WoW. 


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7/29/13 3:14:36 PM#9
Originally posted by david361107

The reason WoW is loosing players isn't because of the graphics or how old the game is. Again, nothing in WoW is epic anymore, raid finished in days not months, everything is too easy, period.



That's exactly how I feel, nothing in WoW is epic anymore its all just part of the course.



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7/29/13 7:01:04 PM#10
Nothing says anything about level requirement to enter here. As usual. Is it a soloable area?
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7/29/13 7:11:54 PM#11

I really don't think the graphics have much to do with WoW's decline. It was never a game that one would be attracted to for it's graphical fidelity. 


I think there are a variety of factors leading to the loss of subs. There are probably a lot of players that have a "been there, done that" attitude towards WoW these days, and they're simply looking for something new. There is currently a lot of competition in the MMO genre, and while most MMO's have small player numbers compared to WoW, losing a little here and there to every new game adds up. 


As far as design decisions go, I think the daily quest focus certainly didn't help subscription numbers. When people across the internet begin to refer to your game as "World of Grindcraft", that's a problem. I also think that CRZ was poorly implemented. WoW quests tend to be competitive rather than cooperative, so having quest areas filled with players from other servers only leads to frustration. For example, I recently tried the trial edition of WoW, just to check out the game again and see if I wanted to resub. During some play sessions, I honestly spent more time waiting for mobs to respawn than anything else. It seems like the quest design and respawn rates were not built for zones that are constantly full of players, so now leveling via questing can entail large amounts of standing around and waiting. Not exactly my definition of fun. 


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7/29/13 7:20:58 PM#12
totally agree i have lost my interest  and my girlfriend too  because theres too  much daily.....its almost  impossible in my case to have  5 or 6 char....cause anyway i will never have the time to do all thoses dailys....and im the kind of player that like to play with all my toons so..didnt resub since february   and my girlfriend too we where playing since 2006....

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7/29/13 7:27:50 PM#13
Ya know what though.  Maybe with that Vivendi Monkey off their backs, they can possibly get back to making "World of Warcraft" again, instead of a money pit, which i'm guessing they needed to do because of Vivendi.  Mind you, I have no stake in the game anymore, haven't played since Cataclysm, so i'm looking in from the outside.  I just feel now they might actually get back to building the game again instead of looking for that "Cash Cow".

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7/29/13 8:34:33 PM#14
Originally posted by Ironman2000
Ya know what though.  Maybe with that Vivendi Monkey off their backs, they can possibly get back to making "World of Warcraft" again, instead of a money pit, which i'm guessing they needed to do because of Vivendi.  Mind you, I have no stake in the game anymore, haven't played since Cataclysm, so i'm looking in from the outside.  I just feel now they might actually get back to building the game again instead of looking for that "Cash Cow".

They seem to be going ahead with all of their item store plans, so I'm thinking this had nothing to do with Vivendi and is good ol fashioned in house greed.  I honestly don't think Vivendi was holding them back in any way shape or form, as they have said time and time again that their dev team makes all the decisions.  Look forward to more of the same.


Their are a lot of reason why people left, daily burnout likely paid a big role, however we also have the death of dungeons this expack, and LFR as the only reasonable gear path for many players.  LFR wouldn't be so bad except for the queues.  Poor design there, with so many wings, poorly thought out loot lists, and no catch up you have the declining player base stretched out across so many LFR wings it gets increasingly worse as time goes on. etc... etc... etc...  The reason I don't feel like coming back though is besides the fact that it doesn't seem very exciting, I'm not a fan of the double dip worst of both worlds required sub plus you still have to pay for the highest quality pets and mounts, and now that they seem to be expanding it to other items seems like a good time to just say goodbye.


While the timeless isle sounds great in theory, when you stop and think about it that exploration isn't going to last you more than a couple weeks max, and hell new dailies are even fun the first couple weeks.  After that you are just running the same course through the same zone fighting the same rares to get the same loot day after day after day.  Only there won't even be quests as a reason to be there, and without any quests I am also going to assume no real stories to be had.  Not to mention I'm willing to bet you are going to see the scenario a lot where you are fighting your way to a chest you found only to have a hunter run by with mobs chasing him, feign death and grab the chest you have been fighting your way to.  Great system for people with an aggro drop not so much for everyone else.  Unless chests are phased on a per player basis which would be pretty cool.


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7/29/13 10:56:07 PM#15
Originally posted by david361107

The reason WoW is loosing players isn't because of the graphics or how old the game is. Again, nothing in WoW is epic anymore, raid finished in days not months, everything is too easy, period.



So are the many other recent MMOs these days.


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7/29/13 11:32:33 PM#16
If you never reported on anything WoW related again, I don't think anyone would be mad. WoW fanboys tend to not venture outside of the WoW forums or because they are too afraid to see anything negative said about the game, you know, reality.


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7/30/13 1:15:49 AM#17
Looks good, a nice additions to a really good content patch, come on 5.4 release date I am waiting to re-sub.  This zone should be blast on a PvP server.

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7/30/13 3:19:36 AM#18
I played WOW for about 6 years which is plenty long enough for any game period...I'm continually surprised that it has as many subbers as it does.


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Wish I had something positive to say =(

7/30/13 5:58:47 AM#19

Why would anyone do dailies any more? You want good gear just do dungeons, convert your justice points to honor then buy pvp gear to get your ilvl up to do Heroic Scenarios ( Using Oqueue add on you can find a group within seconds ) or Raid finder. 


If you want dailies for rep just kill the scouts that walk around in certain areas and get their 1000 rep tokens. ( You can do this alllllll dayyyyyyy long ). But honestly my last 2 toons I leveled I did no dailies whatsoever and both have 517 Ilvl .

The game is something to do till the next best polished thing. Hopefully FF14 ARR


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Wish I had something positive to say =(

7/30/13 6:01:37 AM#20
Originally posted by Matryoshka
If you never reported on anything WoW related again, I don't think anyone would be mad. WoW fanboys tend to not venture outside of the WoW forums or because they are too afraid to see anything negative said about the game, you know, reality.

I know the game has been dumbed down beyond belief. I also know there isnt anything out there that I can play to burn my time and chit chat with folks doing the same thing. I play wow for something to do. What game do you play?

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