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6/06/13 6:45:48 AM#381

Can't believe there are so many muppets here...if you have played SWTOR in the last 6 months you would know how good it a like for like comparison with WoW at the same age SWTOR wins hands down. No idea about F2P as you have to be a cheap mother***** to play something hours a month and not pay £9. I was initially VERY disappointed with SWTOR but it has started to mature in to a brilliant that has kept me playing in a way that is perhaps only 2nd to WoW (played for 7 years and loved it).

As for GW2...I'm not even sure I would consider it a proper MMORPG...the good stuff is very good but the rediculous notion of no healers and tanks is just plain daft: got to max level and was shocked to find the absence of, well, anything really...big shame as i was loving it until that point (so not a hater).

EQ2...i played this before WoW was released (was by a couple months IIRC) and loved it but all friends went WoW and the rest is history as they say! Only issue with EQ2 is/was it demanded a supercomputer to play it at max.

Also I would suggest that if anyone wants to play F2P then 1) you have no divine right to expect everything for isnt a charity its a business and 2) expect to pay more per month than any non F2P game lol...


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6/09/13 1:43:29 AM#382
Best of 2013? Lol wut??Dafuq is Darkfall & Neverwinter doing here?Where the hell is WoW and Rift?In any case I can't argue with Gw2 being #1 but WoW would AT LEAST make #2 and EVE would follow as #3.It's facts,not fanboism,that makes these 3 mmo titans hit the top 3 in any top 10 mmo list whatever the order you put em in.Rift would be a close 4th IMO,but on that I suppose opinion matters.You lot probably need to simmer down a lil about SWTOR being here though,it took a pretty good turn the last few months of 2012.But Neverwinter needs to gtfo the list,what PWE will NEVER learn is that a fully cashshopped rubbish of an endgame is not what the average player looks for in a game.

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6/09/13 10:13:38 PM#383

I started reading this list and then had to double check to make sure that I wasn't reading a "worst of" list.

Cmon... SWTOR.  Seriously?  This game would need five years of updates and content patches to even come close to digging itself out of the pile of shit it's buried under.  I wouldn't play it again if they paid me to.. it'd be the worst job I ever held.

TSW?  Combat is 99% of what every single player does in a gear treadmill MMO.  So if your combat is clunky and boring, then your game is clunky and boring.  No amount of "story" and "atmosphere" can save you through the boredom of clicking the shotgun icon 200 times a fight.  The really amusing part here is that they made combat really fun, visceral, gory and interesting in AoC... then totally screwed the pooch in TSW.  So weird.

1.  EVE Online (The only real MMO, the rest are just gear treadmills with hilariously absurd 1980's era shoulder pads)

2. Age of Conan (The only gear treadmill worth playing, and yes, after five years it's worth playing)

3. Darkfall: UH (Ok, maybe this game is a real MMO too.  Just needs a decade of polish like EVE already has.  Unlike EVE, the community total garbage.)

4. Age of Wushu (haven't had time to play it, but damn the concept is great)


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6/10/13 12:51:43 AM#384
Originally posted by toxicmango
Eve's growth is false growth.  With the majority of their users having 2 or more accounts, it gives a falsely inflated number.  Also there was the notable Incarna debacle aka Monoclegate that cost them many accounts.  Wooing back somebody who left is not growth.  That's just retention after a mea culpa.

The amount of people using more than 1 account is always grossly overstated by outsiders...

While the ratio may be higher for EVE it's nowhere near the "100%" many are claiming. Some time ago CCP released some numbers on this, "only" 20% of accounts are held by people with more than one account, the other 80% is one account per player.

Also, even if so many people would have multiple accounts, it's growth is nothing to be sneezed at. There were less than ~40,000 subscribers in the first year... Unless people are claiming that those same 40,000 people have been playing for 10 years AND have 10 accounts each, it wouldn't make sense to attribute it's growth just to multiboxers.

Playing: EVE, TERA, BD
Played (more than 1 month): WoW, GW2, L2, WAR, AoC, DnL, GW, LotRO, EQ2, TOR, CoH, STO, TSW, Vindictus
Tried (trial, up to 1 month): EQ, UO, AO, EnB, TCoS, Fury, Ryzom, EU, DDO, TR, RF, CO, Aion, VG


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6/10/13 8:09:36 AM#385
And which of these MMOs isn't a total questathon?....This is why there aren't any great MMOs the past few years is every single MMO is focusing solely on questing......Even a game like TSW that so many think is soooo different from everything else, the entire game is about 98% questing....Come on already enough of this crap and give us some new worlds to explore before the genre dies.

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6/15/13 7:40:48 AM#386
Originally posted by Theocritus
And which of these MMOs isn't a total questathon?....This is why there aren't any great MMOs the past few years is every single MMO is focusing solely on questing......Even a game like TSW that so many think is soooo different from everything else, the entire game is about 98% questing....Come on already enough of this crap and give us some new worlds to explore before the genre dies.

the very first one on that list gw2 has no quests at all but operates in a constantly changing living story world you dumbass.every point you made here is invalid even in the eyes of an amateur and you don't seem to have any clue at all about what you're talking about here now do you?lmao.


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6/26/13 12:08:52 PM#387
GW2 is by far the best  2k13 mmo !!!!!!!!!!!


As gw1 active  player since 2k4,   GW2 do not deserve this, updates are getting worse WITH NO BUG FIXES, class, mechanics are getting duller from update to update, dev team cant see what is the problem with their game, THERES NO IMPROVEMENT to the game since its realease except the culling issues in World VS World VS World wich is the most imbalanced mode that could exist in the MMO's World.

P.S fighthing the Dragon Boss is the same as fighting  a flash video!!!

This game is equal to any other mmo with bad  development.


GW1 development team  was far better than the one in GW2 !!!!

I bet NCSOFT paying this results to


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6/26/13 12:21:43 PM#388

After reading this list of "best" games I had to laugh. All the games on here besides Eve, since I never tried it, suck.

1. Dark Fail  part 2. The first one sucked, shouldn't have ever been allowed to make another.

2. Age of Wushu. Oh look, its crouching tiger, something something high wire movie.

3. Star Wars, the old recraplic.  A game that lost 75% of its playerbase in 6 months is considered a top game? How is this possible?

4. The Secret World. Great concept of a game, but it was delivered as a car with square wheels. A complete clunkfest.

5. Neverwinter. Its never get anywhere without paying lots of money on a cash shop.

6. Guild Wars 2. The no endgame game. WvWvW is a complete joke and waste of time. Dungeons are too. There is no point in playing this game after hitting level 80.

This list should've been the top suckiest sucks that have ever sucked. How any of these games are rated as a top game is beyond me. Rename this list to the top 6 failures of 2012-2013. Eve is the only game I can't give my opinion on since I never played it. The rest just suck.

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6/28/13 4:34:30 PM#389
RIFT   nothing else compares

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6/28/13 7:59:43 PM#390

I can't really comment on the list because I have only played one game on that list.

However, it is really sad how clueless the author of the article is in regards to Neverwinter.

I doubt it should be on the top 7, but dude spend some time on it or get a person who actually played it for more than "20 minutes" to give you an accurate feel.

There is nothing you can do if all you got is a 20 minute window.  NOTHING!  Check that... Up until last patch you could bypass 95% of three T2 dungeons using graphics glitches and fight the final boss to farm BIS equipment.  But they fixed that or so they say. 

As for Foundry.  Unreal.  Foundry I suppose is a great way for new players to play but I would say 80% of the peeps lvl 60 do not play foundry at all.  Not even to get their 4k astral daily.

You really have no idea what you are talking about and it is these types of articles that is giving MMORPG a bad name.  Do some homework man.


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7/04/13 3:58:42 PM#391
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by wizardelo
where is Wildstar on the list, i cant believe neverwinter fail is here and wildstar isnt, i can only conclude that our Author did not have a change to play it and thus no opinion.

WildStar's not even out yet. :P

EQ Next wasn't being shown at E3 but you gave it best of show. Be consisent bro.

I expected EQ Next to be in the #1 MMO spot.

As far as Eve goes. I tried it and hated it.

I had Insomnia until I started watching Eve streams on Twitchtv. Amazing cure. True story bro.




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7/16/13 8:03:43 AM#392
Reading the comments on here it becomes pretty clear why we don't have decent AAA-quality sandbox mmos to play. What I wouldn't give for a medieval sandbox without magic where player politics determine the story.

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7/16/13 8:12:37 AM#393

I can't wait to see these forums once all the people pinning their hopes on ESO actually get to play it. 


My popcorn is ready.

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7/23/13 1:37:22 AM#394
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn definitely needs to go on this list once it's out and they finish the list. The game is a juggernaut in terms of quality and potential and how good it already is in beta with many things locked out of beta.


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7/23/13 1:49:24 AM#395
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Replace swtor with anything

Even scarlet bloody blade



I agree ftp RIFT is a better choice


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8/04/13 2:09:21 PM#396
What a noob lista how can you say that guild wars 2 is number 1 you must play it or you just suck

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8/04/13 2:09:21 PM#397
What a noob lista how can you say that guild wars 2 is number 1 you must play it or you just suck

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8/04/13 2:16:28 PM#398

Its TSW for me by a large margin. Best quests ever, EVER, great combat system, dungeons, graphics, story. Just a little too short.

GW2 on the other side is the worst MMO I ever spent money for.

I played the SWTOR addon until I finished the Story, then I quitted. I didn't play the Rift addon at all, but I loved the original game.


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8/17/13 9:47:51 PM#399

I have to go with Gigat on his review, that guy's a real true gamer.

GW2 for #1 - Pure Quality

Eve for #2 - Deserves to be in this spot

TSW for #3 - Unique & Innovative

WOW for #4 - Still one of my favorites but the fun factor is dwindling

Rift for #5 - Quality

SWTOR for #6 - This game is not as bad as others would have you believe.

Age Of Wushu for #7 - F2p, fun factor & Quality


A true list from a true gamer.



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8/27/13 1:43:10 AM#400

Not trying to be mean but if NW makes the list so should Diablo3. It's an extremely linear experience in terms of game play and character development. It is also severely lacking in social areas.


My list would be (Based on games that have made significant content patches this year):

  1. DDO - Excellent graphical update and a granular character building experience. One of the best dungeon crawling MMO's out there (if you're not into instances though it's not for you).
  2. Tera - in terms of action gaming this really sets the bar. If you like a twitchier MMO it's a great game and free.
  3. TSW - Extremely underrated (really a victim of anti Funcom vendetta's and being a niche setting). Some of the best instances I've played in.
  4. Rift - most consistently improved game I know of.
  5. GW2 - This is a great consolidation of many of the best MMO concepts of the last 3 years though it lacks a little flavour for me.
  6. EVE - It's a great sandbox and has had excellent patches. It's a ruthless game though and while I'd hate it made more accessible it's really not a game to start playing now if you've never played it before - unless you know people who are already playing it and have been for some time. 
  7. WoW - Decent updates to what is an old game. It looks very good for it's age but coming back after playing some newer games and the combat mechanics really does start feel old and tired. Still a very good game especially given it's age. It has the most content available of any MMO (as it should)
  8. (Just outside of my top 7) - SWTOR. Yes it's a WoW clone but I would argue it's a pretty good one. It could have been so much more but it is a fun game and has had some significant improvements. The F2P model could have had better implementation but the alignment system is excellent as is the story telling. It has a sense of humour that more successful titles seem to lack (GW2). If it weren't for the sheer amount of things to do in WoW this would have made my top 7 ahead of it.
Edit: Swapped WoW & Eve around - Eve's a better game and has had an equally good update.
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