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  Vhayne

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OP  7/20/13 7:14:18 PM#1
So whatever worries we all have, hopefully it will still be a great game.  I have to many worries to count, and to many dreams for it to become a reality.  But rest assured that the game must be something special.  Either that, or these 2 sites will lose a lot of credibility.
  OG_Zorvan

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7/20/13 9:16:43 PM#2

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  baphamet

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7/20/13 10:04:59 PM#3


Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.


to be fair, we don't even know what they saw at E3, it could have been fully playable for all we know.

  DarkVergil

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7/20/13 10:06:12 PM#4
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

The truth hurts.

  Stromm

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Posts: 250

7/20/13 10:09:36 PM#5
Originally posted by Vhayne
So whatever worries we all have, hopefully it will still be a great game.  I have to many worries to count, and to many dreams for it to become a reality.  But rest assured that the game must be something special.  Either that, or these 2 sites will lose a lot of credibility.

So cute that you still think "industry awards" mean anything.

  Grailer

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7/20/13 10:44:03 PM#6
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

What games got "Best of Show" and were crap ?

 

 

  Telondariel

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7/20/13 10:46:06 PM#7
Originally posted by Stromm
Originally posted by Vhayne
So whatever worries we all have, hopefully it will still be a great game.  I have to many worries to count, and to many dreams for it to become a reality.  But rest assured that the game must be something special.  Either that, or these 2 sites will lose a lot of credibility.

So cute that you still think "industry awards" mean anything.

Yeah.  "Hello" to yet another repeat thread fawning about two people's opinions from E3; one of which (Bill) has a known glad-handing relationship with Dave Georgeson.  

 

There are a lot of people out there who will gladly allow others to make their decisions and form their opinions for them. 

  DavisFlight

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7/20/13 10:51:50 PM#8
Originally posted by Vhayne
So whatever worries we all have, hopefully it will still be a great game.  I have to many worries to count, and to many dreams for it to become a reality.  But rest assured that the game must be something special.  Either that, or these 2 sites will lose a lot of credibility.

These sites lose credibility on a regular basis. This very site fired a guy for giving SWTOR a low score.

  AZAlex

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Joined: 10/19/04
Posts: 7

7/20/13 11:19:10 PM#9
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

What games got "Best of Show" and were crap ?

 

 

Not saying all of these are crap; YMMV. This is for anyone wondering about previous years

 

mmorpg.com:

2012: Planetside 2

2011: Defiance

2010: (Guild Wars 2) Not sure on this one

2009: Global Agenda

---

2005: Hero's Journey

 

TTH:

2012: Neverwinter

2011: TERA

2010: Lego Universe

2009: SWTOR

 

  DavisFlight

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Posts: 2524

7/20/13 11:44:50 PM#10
But PS2 was great.
  Gallus85

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Posts: 1113

7/20/13 11:54:28 PM#11
Originally posted by AZAlex
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

What games got "Best of Show" and were crap ?

 

 

Not saying all of these are crap; YMMV. This is for anyone wondering about previous years

 

mmorpg.com:

2012: Planetside 2

2011: Defiance

2010: (Guild Wars 2) Not sure on this one

2009: Global Agenda

---

2005: Hero's Journey

 

TTH:

2012: Neverwinter

2011: TERA

2010: Lego Universe

2009: SWTOR

 

Nice list, thanks for compiling.

Some great games on those lists.  Some may not have been the most amazing things ever, but a lot of the games on the list are quality products that at least tried a hand at innovating.

SWTOR's dialog system.

TERA's combat

Planetside 2 (simply amazing)

Defiance (great game)

GW2 (best MMORPG to come out in many years)

It's also not just the fact that EQN got best in show, it's what was said to go along with it, along with the design philosophy and tiny leaks about EQN that also speak a lot for the game.

EQN is going to be great.  Besides, if you don't like EQN, they're are tons of other really awesome sandbox MMORPGs on the market to enjoy.

Oh wait. lol.

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  sanshi44

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Joined: 6/12/09
Posts: 1046

7/21/13 1:32:07 AM#12
Originally posted by AZAlex
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

What games got "Best of Show" and were crap ?

 

 

Not saying all of these are crap; YMMV. This is for anyone wondering about previous years

 

mmorpg.com:

2012: Planetside 2

2011: Defiance

2010: (Guild Wars 2) Not sure on this one

2009: Global Agenda

---

2005: Hero's Journey

 

TTH:

2012: Neverwinter

2011: TERA

2010: Lego Universe

2009: SWTOR

 

 Ones in red are probaly the best games othat was released those years imo all the one in white i can be sure because i havant played it. Although havant played SWTOR but judging from what ive heared it didnt realy do to well but could be wrong.

  Gallus85

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Joined: 3/13/11
Posts: 1113

7/21/13 2:10:10 AM#13
Originally posted by sanshi44
Originally posted by AZAlex
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

What games got "Best of Show" and were crap ?

 

 

Not saying all of these are crap; YMMV. This is for anyone wondering about previous years

 

mmorpg.com:

2012: Planetside 2

2011: Defiance

2010: (Guild Wars 2) Not sure on this one

2009: Global Agenda

---

2005: Hero's Journey

 

TTH:

2012: Neverwinter

2011: TERA

2010: Lego Universe

2009: SWTOR

 

 Ones in red are probaly the best games othat was released those years imo all the one in white i can be sure because i havant played it. Although havant played SWTOR but judging from what ive heared it didnt realy do to well but could be wrong.

SWTOR made some good steps in terms of story telling and making the game more cinematic.  Huttball was also a lot of fun pvp wise lol.  However, the game in many other areas was more of the same (gear treadmill, lack of character gear customization, WoW-style linear themepark gameplay, uninteresting WoW-style combat system, etc).

It's F2P now with about 3 million players.  So it's not doing bad, and obviously offers something many people want, however, I doubt you'll find much love for it on a forum for a sandbox MMORPG/EQ game. lol.

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  Tyvolus

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Joined: 9/28/08
Posts: 203

7/21/13 2:11:43 AM#14


Originally posted by DavisFlight

Originally posted by Vhayne So whatever worries we all have, hopefully it will still be a great game.  I have to many worries to count, and to many dreams for it to become a reality.  But rest assured that the game must be something special.  Either that, or these 2 sites will lose a lot of credibility.
These sites lose credibility on a regular basis. This very site fired a guy for giving SWTOR a low score.


how quick people forget that. this site was also bought and paid for by EA to promote SWTOR with pimped up reviews for that joke of an MMO. It was Bill I believe that was telling people he was up all night playing that game, and he even went on, he hadn't played an MMO that did that to him in a long time. it was comical to read. i feel bad for the people who wasted money on that game.

  winter

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Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2236

7/21/13 2:18:36 AM#15
Originally posted by Vhayne
So whatever worries we all have, hopefully it will still be a great game.  I have to many worries to count, and to many dreams for it to become a reality.  But rest assured that the game must be something special.  Either that, or these 2 sites will lose a lot of credibility.

 pretty sure those sites also gave SW:tor best of show too, and while it had it points look where it is now

  wsmar

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Joined: 3/08/09
Posts: 122

7/21/13 2:20:36 AM#16
Originally posted by Gallus85
Originally posted by AZAlex
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

What games got "Best of Show" and were crap ?

 

 

Not saying all of these are crap; YMMV. This is for anyone wondering about previous years

 

mmorpg.com:

2012: Planetside 2

2011: Defiance

2010: (Guild Wars 2) Not sure on this one

2009: Global Agenda

---

2005: Hero's Journey

 

TTH:

2012: Neverwinter

2011: TERA

2010: Lego Universe

2009: SWTOR

 

Nice list, thanks for compiling.

Some great games on those lists.  Some may not have been the most amazing things ever, but a lot of the games on the list are quality products that at least tried a hand at innovating.

SWTOR's dialog system.

TERA's combat

Planetside 2 (simply amazing)

Defiance (great game)

GW2 (best MMORPG to come out in many years)

It's also not just the fact that EQN got best in show, it's what was said to go along with it, along with the design philosophy and tiny leaks about EQN that also speak a lot for the game.

EQN is going to be great.  Besides, if you don't like EQN, they're are tons of other really awesome sandbox MMORPGs on the market to enjoy.

Oh wait. lol.

Each game had some innovative features but in the end they all turned out to have glaring issues that ruined the games for most people. The developers for EQN didn't say anything more than "we are doing something completely different" and other statements to hype the game. How many times have we heard that before. Let's see... ah yes! All of them on that list. They barely did anything new besides 1 or 2 features. They all basically consisted of the same linear progression and a lot of unfulfilled promises.

 

Instead of getting my hopes up, I'm going to wait for this "ground breaking" information, and then decide for myself if it is really that "ground breaking". SOE is good about trying out new ideas and features, but I can't say that I enjoyed that many of their games. SWG was probably the only game I really enjoyed until they had to go and ruin it. Like I said though, no one can tell now what EQN will become. I hope it turns out to be a great game, but I've lost the optimism I once had when it comes to new mmos.

  Prenho

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7/21/13 2:27:46 AM#17

I hope to see 2 things:

 

- Open world pvp, of course a pk system, if a player kills a neutral player(who is not at war with the first player) and this player doesn't fight back before dying, that player will become pk and can drop items if a pk hunter kills him.

 

- REAL GUILD wars, Guilds are free to make their own enemies, and fight over territories, politics, world resources, etc...

  Distopia

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7/21/13 2:30:58 AM#18
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

HOw many get best of show without showing a single thing to the public? Not to mention can not be talked about...

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  Gallus85

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Posts: 1113

7/21/13 2:31:49 AM#19
Originally posted by wsmar
Originally posted by Gallus85
Originally posted by AZAlex
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

Please. Plenty of floppeed games have gotten the "Best of Show" crap. Best of show amounts to nothing more than "We have the best looking, specially rigged and strictly controlled demo that the real game will look nothing like at release".

None of that crap matters until the game is put out into the wild for people to play the real game.

What games got "Best of Show" and were crap ?

 

 

Not saying all of these are crap; YMMV. This is for anyone wondering about previous years

 

mmorpg.com:

2012: Planetside 2

2011: Defiance

2010: (Guild Wars 2) Not sure on this one

2009: Global Agenda

---

2005: Hero's Journey

 

TTH:

2012: Neverwinter

2011: TERA

2010: Lego Universe

2009: SWTOR

 

Nice list, thanks for compiling.

Some great games on those lists.  Some may not have been the most amazing things ever, but a lot of the games on the list are quality products that at least tried a hand at innovating.

SWTOR's dialog system.

TERA's combat

Planetside 2 (simply amazing)

Defiance (great game)

GW2 (best MMORPG to come out in many years)

It's also not just the fact that EQN got best in show, it's what was said to go along with it, along with the design philosophy and tiny leaks about EQN that also speak a lot for the game.

EQN is going to be great.  Besides, if you don't like EQN, they're are tons of other really awesome sandbox MMORPGs on the market to enjoy.

Oh wait. lol.

Each game had some innovative features but in the end they all turned out to have glaring issues that ruined the games for most people. The developers for EQN didn't say anything more than "we are doing something completely different" and other statements to hype the game. How many times have we heard that before. Let's see... ah yes! All of them on that list. They barely did anything new besides 1 or 2 features. They all basically consisted of the same linear progression and a lot of unfulfilled promises.

 

Instead of getting my hopes up, I'm going to wait for this "ground breaking" information, and then decide for myself if it is really that "ground breaking". SOE is good about trying out new ideas and features, but I can't say that I enjoyed that many of their games. SWG was probably the only game I really enjoyed until they had to go and ruin it. Like I said though, no one can tell now what EQN will become. I hope it turns out to be a great game, but I've lost the optimism I once had when it comes to new mmos.

"Most people" is a bit of an emotional stretch.

Maybe you just have a hard time liking a game for what it has, and instead dwell on what you want it to have.

Personally, I think lots/most all of games on the list were actually great games.  Planetside 2 is one of the best games I've ever played, actually, in all my 20+ or so years of gaming.

Legends of Kesmai, UO, EQ, AO, DAoC, AC, SB, RO, SWG, EVE, EQ2, CoH, GW, VG:SOH, WAR, Aion, DF, CO, MO, DN, Tera, SWTOR, RO2, DP, GW2, PS2, BnS, NW, FF:XIV, ESO, EQ:NL

  tkoreaper

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7/21/13 2:56:10 AM#20

Game of show is just that... Game of the SHOW. Doesn't mean it's absolutely spectacular... You have to see what it's competition was. They simply won't not give out the reward if they feel nothing is worth it... They literally pick the best of the show. So keep that in mind.

In spite of what I just said I feel EQN will be great, but how much? We'll just have to see. Nothing will ever be perfect, but so long as it's enjoyable who cares?

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