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Associate Editor - News Manager

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OP  7/18/13 7:55:52 PM#1

Now that we've had some time to get down and dirty in Red 5's Firefall, it's time to start our Review in Progress series. We kick it off today with our first thoughts about the MMOFPS. See what we've discovered in our time in-game and then tell us about your own experiences in the comments.

Now then... where to begin? Let me put it this way: Firefall’s the kind of game that doesn’t hold your hand, and it requires a good bit of self-experimentation. Red 5’s crafted some tutorial videos, and there’s a decent very basic introduction to the game and how it works after you create your character, but by and large you’ll only get as much out of Firefall as you put into the game. For some, this will be a glorious callback to the days of MMOs' youth.  For others this little facet will likely drive them away. But if you put forth the effort to research crafting, how the Battleframe progression works, how events and Chosen invasions affect the world, you’ll likely be pleasantly surprised by what you find in this futuristic version of Brazil.

Read more of Bill Murphy's Firefall Review In Progress #1.

That Chosen sign? Yeah, not a good thing.

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7/19/13 8:23:35 AM#2

I still launch Fire fall every once in a while, and the game still feels very disjointed. I just can't seem to get into it, I will still keep trying. There doesn't seem to be a real compelling reason to play for me, and the gameplay itself is still uninspiring to me.

I hope to see it all changes one day, so I'll keep trying.


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7/19/13 8:42:21 AM#3

Honestly I was shocked at the overall quality of the game. I agree gameplay is as deep as you want to take it and follows old school principles.

In certain ways this title reminds me of Tabula Rasa and yes I still have my dogtags.


Don't listen to the negative nancys on this one and go try it out.


If you suffer from the insideous quest hub disease you will struggle and this will tell you that you are no where near an old school gamer. Old school gamers will slide right in and be lost for hours with the dynamic gameplay.


Red5 has a gem in the rough and expanding on the open world and dynamic events will keep it fresh. Also I am awaiting open world pvp and believe it will enhance the Eve feeling you get.


Time will tell and I hope they ratchet up world expansion and pvp/events to keep interest up.


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7/19/13 8:47:29 AM#4
Eh Im worn out after the tutorial.....It was too long and threw too much at the user....By the time it was over I logged out and didnt feel like playing......Also why is the character so far to the left in third person view?...I didnt really fool with it alot but taht felt extremely wierd....

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7/19/13 9:25:15 AM#5
I agree the learning curve is high and once in game i find myself lost in it for many hours   ( lost as in where did the day go ) the gameplay is top notch , but I can't find a compelling reason to keep logging in . It's like the game has little goal shere building out your battleframe is super sweet but where is this all going the story is good very good but their's a disconnect someplace it's just very hard to nail down what is wrong still the game is AAA  and i know RED5  will fix it in time on RED5's forums this is a common comment. So it comes down to gameplay and the gameplay is Very Fun , Try it for yourself .

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Smile, you could die at any moment.

7/19/13 9:31:39 AM#6

If you look at the world map it does seem small even without the melding, but there's more. The game has 4 zones, 3 of them you have to unlock through questing and crafting. It takes a lot of work, but it can be done fairly quickly if you know what your doing. 

1. You need to do ARES or other missions to get POI tokens. You'll need 50 for each area you want to unlock. You take these tokens and contribute to that area like Copa, Trans Dump, or Sunken. Then you buy a relay from the quartermaster. Then you craft. Here is the mats for just Copa


Mid-Pacific SIN Relay

Chosen Di-Qubit Localizer (from Echoes from Sertao quest)

4,000 Radine

4,000 Copper

4,000 Silicate

4,000 Xenografts


Yup, it takes awhile, but when you get there it's worth it. This game is bigger than just the beginner map.  If you have any questions you can contact me in game as Scarybooster. I'll be happy to answer anybody's questions. I've been playing for over a year in alpha and beta.  


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7/19/13 9:38:16 AM#7

This is flat out one of the best games i've ever played. I haven't been this addicted to a game in years.

I'm glad it doesn't hold your hand, it makes it much more involving than the auto-pilot MMO's of the modern era where you don't actually have to think about what you're doing.

This is not a game that simply plays itself. Enjoy =D


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7/19/13 9:53:00 AM#8

I tried the game in one of the beta weekends. I could not stay in game for more than half an hour, I could not understand what to do. After the release of Open Beta I decided to try this again, minute after minute in game, hour after hour, I have learnt the game, the need for thumping, the battleframe progression, the ARES missions... And I am still only a novice in game, still playing the basic battleframes with stock / tier1 gear only to get pilot points to unlock an advanced battleframe. But the game is very nice, interesting, there are a lot of things to do always different (even if ARES mission are usually often the same, can be in a cave, or a in a building, or in a research facility, and the chosen invasion are nice and challenging).

I think I'll stick with Firefall as my main game paired with Defiance, I love shooters MMO with third person view :)


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7/19/13 9:56:24 AM#9
Originally posted by Theocritus
Eh Im worn out after the tutorial.....It was too long and threw too much at the user....By the time it was over I logged out and didnt feel like playing......Also why is the character so far to the left in third person view?...I didnt really fool with it alot but taht felt extremely wierd....

i would blame your fellow game peers on that -there was a main hub hub complain that there wasnt enough explanation and they wanted to be hand held....


Red5 listens to the community. 110% of the time!


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7/19/13 10:01:44 AM#10

Terrible game...just terrible, I can't get myself into playing this game...

It feels like it's still in Alpha state, and the graphics arent my cup of tea..



Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.

Edgar Allan Poe


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7/19/13 10:09:18 AM#11
Originally posted by Indol

This is flat out one of the best games i've ever played. I haven't been this addicted to a game in years.

I'm glad it doesn't hold your hand, it makes it much more involving than the auto-pilot MMO's of the modern era where you don't actually have to think about what you're doing.

This is not a game that simply plays itself. Enjoy =D


yah its addictive!

its a pretty intelligent game- no hand holding.

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7/19/13 10:20:50 AM#12

I went back to the game after reading a post about how no one should play it..... I've logged a lot of hours in since and am having a blast doing it. Iv'e been playing with friends who have never played an open world non-linear game before and it took a long time for them to get used to not being told what to do.

The ones that stayed are very hooked. They always seem very excited about all the things they need to get done and it's funny listening to them go on and on about what they're doing....considering they came from " this game has nothing to do "

The game does lack long term content but it's not like red 5 has stopped working on more. If I have to I'll take another break but it's a game I'm sure I'll be coming back to for years.


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7/19/13 10:27:51 AM#13

Well Bill was waiting for this review ... well written.

I like the fact you emphasize your not gonna get hand held in the game.Its what you make of it.

For me, Ive been enjoying the game for a while. I think the limited content
makes the game feel like beta, but they are going 'full on' with their benchmark timeline
meeting their goals phasing out the word beta eventually out of the game.

for me it feels alot more finished than nameless mmos out there- and you can play the game
completely FREE,you just need to spend time and skill to sink deeper into the game.

 this is alot better than having a season pass sold to you-awaiting nfor new content.

Red5 reminds me alot like CCP 4 -5 years ago- and the game feels intelligently developed. by pationate people about their game. richly developed.

Im looking forward to experience what Red5 has in store for new eden!


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7/19/13 10:47:27 AM#14
Yah, Reminds me of Tabula Rasa a lot. Just more freedom with what you can do. I'm really curious about the open PvP that would really make me play more problably.


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May the game be ever in your favor.

7/19/13 11:31:44 AM#15
It's a good game, but I feel like a lot of money was wasted that could have been put straight into the game to maybe fix that feeling of disconnect. Like, I play but after a while there is almost little reason to keep playing. It just feels like there needs to be something added that makes you want to continue playing because spamming ARES gets old fast...



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7/19/13 11:35:06 AM#16
@ scarybooster omg are you serious? I just started playing this game last weekend I had no idea you could open up new locations. I bought the 20.00 pack and unlocked mammoth and reculse they are super fun. Ill need to research how to open up these new places though now :D

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7/19/13 11:57:48 AM#17
i log in once-in-awhile.... waiting to see how the open world pvp will be.  it will be make or break for me!

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7/19/13 12:09:00 PM#18
Originally posted by SidQFT
i log in once-in-awhile.... waiting to see how the open world pvp will be.  it will be make or break for me!



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7/19/13 12:09:55 PM#19

Bill, if you're looking for things to spend money on you could buy multiple $20 packs and unlock frames with the pilot tokens that come with them, or get the $100 pack and get 100 pilot tokens (enough to unlock all the advanced frames).


You can also use your Commander Red Beans to open each suit individually, obviously.


Hopefully more things to buy with Red Beans are coming.. they just added the Copa Arcportal to the Red Beans store and an LGV is coming with the next patch (because people didn't want to buy the $100 pack to get them).


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7/19/13 12:12:28 PM#20
I need deep player character customization, housing, structure building, sieging, deep PVE,  etc, this game is unreal tournament on steroids. not a bad thing for people who like that, just not my cup of tea, never felt like my character lived in the world.
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