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  SavageHorizon

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7/18/13 7:00:00 PM#21
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.

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  Arakazi

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7/18/13 7:37:38 PM#22
Not alone. But I'm far less excited by the game than I should be. But I have been playing since arena came out so I will at least give it a go. But the more I find out tu less I look forward to seeing it.

  Braindome

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7/18/13 7:54:43 PM#23

I was excited to see that there is a nice new looking first person mode, on the same hand I was disappointed to hear that it is "optional".

I mean seriously, the people that are going to most want this game are going to be Elder Scrolls fans and the fact that being in third person will pretty much be required to be competitive is just mind numbingly retarded. If someone complains that there is no third person mode and Bethesda listens then obviously they aren't going after the core fanbase which I see as a major problem.

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  Brabbit1987

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7/18/13 8:06:43 PM#24
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

 

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.

Really, it is as you said, it is my opinion. That is why I said I, as in myself. How I came to the conclusion? Personal opinion. That is the only answer you will get. XD Because really, it would be pointless to even go into "why", because again it's my opinion and you simply will just disagree with me. I will say though, it has to do with bunch of the features as well as it being elder scrolls. They may not be the best features available, but it's the first time I can find many features I like in 1 single game.

It's been a while since that happened ... well actually I don't think it really ever happened. ESO certainly isn't exactly what i am looking for either, but it's the closest.

 

Edit: Though keep in mind all that can change real quick. It mostly depends on how development of the game goes.

  baphamet

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7/18/13 10:19:27 PM#25


Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by DocBrody everyone will buy it anyway
Pretty much.  Even I plan on buying nad playing, but how long will it keep me is the big question, as of right now I will go into this the same way as I did going into SWTOR, a game to be played till I hit the level cap and fin all the exploration/questing content.

it will take a while to go through all the content from the sounds of it, unless you are a power gamer.

if that is the case then i would say no themepark mmo is going to be for you in terms of longevity.

but if they follow through with the claims they have made so far, there will be a lot of content at least.

  baphamet

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7/18/13 10:20:49 PM#26


Originally posted by Braindome
I was excited to see that there is a nice new looking first person mode, on the same hand I was disappointed to hear that it is "optional".

I mean seriously, the people that are going to most want this game are going to be Elder Scrolls fans and the fact that being in third person will pretty much be required to be competitive is just mind numbingly retarded. If someone complains that there is no third person mode and Bethesda listens then obviously they aren't going after the core fanbase which I see as a major problem.

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pvp in first person? no thanks.

  baphamet

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7/18/13 10:25:08 PM#27


Originally posted by SavageHorizon

Originally posted by Brabbit1987

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.



 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.


in terms of themeparks, i agree with him that ESO is the best thing in development right now.

  GoldenTiger2

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7/19/13 12:55:40 AM#28
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

 

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.

Combat & skills system looks good ;). Archeage is a traditional tab-target many-hotkey setup, and will play differently. So, your refutation there is nil. As far as PVP, well, why not say that, as it's by far and away the most important aspect to an MMO for many people and with Cyrodil we will finally have proper RvR once more, rather than silly capture-the-flag buddy-buddy 10-person minigames? And yes, before you bother to flame mindlessly, I have played both.

  GoldenTiger2

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7/19/13 12:56:29 AM#29
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by SavageHorizon

Originally posted by Brabbit1987

 

 

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.



 

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.


 

in terms of themeparks, i agree with him that ESO is the best thing in development right now.

 

I think people wanting yet another WOW clone will be sorely disappointed, thankfully.

  Wizardry

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7/19/13 1:03:03 AM#30

I don't like anything the OP likes in a MMORPG,i hate pvp, don't care for instances and although i have played past Elder scrolls they never compelled to look forward to the next,just average gaming.

However there is one thing that caught my eye and will have me at least interested a bit,they have one of the brightest guys in the gaming industry under their wing,none other than Dave Carmack,i grew up a huge fan of his work.IDK if he has anything to do with this game or not,i wish he did but i somehow doubt it.

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  SavageHorizon

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7/19/13 1:05:07 AM#31
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by SavageHorizon

Originally posted by Brabbit1987

 

 

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.



 

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.


 

in terms of themeparks, i agree with him that ESO is the best thing in development right now.

 

ArcheAge at it's core is a themepark, it's not a sandbox mmo. The game has all the themepark features you would expect from a themepark mmo but it also has some great open ended features.

So where does it leave your above comment, it means that as a themepark mmo TESO is lacking any features that other themepark mmo's have.

It's obviously not the best themepark in development right now.

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  SavageHorizon

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7/19/13 1:40:57 AM#32
Originally posted by GoldenTiger2
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

 

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.

Combat & skills system looks good ;). Archeage is a traditional tab-target many-hotkey setup, and will play differently.

Your above line just tells me that you haven't played the game because you wouldn't be saying "it will play differently" you would of said "it plays differently" which is obvious because they are two different systems.

As far as PVP, well, why not say that, as it's by far and away the most important aspect to an MMO for many people and with Cyrodil we will finally have proper RvR once more, rather than silly capture-the-flag buddy-buddy 10-person minigames? just as robust PVP system, 

And other mmo's have just as robust PVP systems, three faction PVP but it also has player made factions, sieges, castles, forts, fully craftable siege weapons, player bounty system, pirate faction with a whole outlaw island, caravan routes, faction trade routes.

And all in what is a themepark mmo at it's core.

 

And yes, before you bother to flame mindlessly, I have played both. And yet from your above comments you know hardly anything about how the game plays, i bet you didn't even know the game has CD LOL.

 

ArcheAge combat is actually pretty robust and exciting, why you ask, well it has Collision Detection. So unlike TESO spells do not go through objects, you have to position yourself especially for PVP.

TESO has a soft targeting system so it has semi traditional tab targeting but no CD personally i prefer ArcheAge with the CD. 

Okay, ArcheAge is not an action game, as a matter of fact, it's all about customizable combos and strategies. Your abilities (active skills and passive powers) are determined by the talents you choose. There are a dozen of talents and you can pick up three at level 10. Each ability, regardless of which talent tree it belongs, can form a combo with numbers of other abilities, and you can choose accordingly what abilities you want to learn in order to make up an ideal combo.

There are hundreds of possible combinations compared to TESO.

ArcheAge’s combat system is based on the DPS system and adjusts the actual distance and position of the target. Separated actions enable characters to move and attack freely. Common combat systems only provide 2-3 attack modes, but ArcheAge integrates a wide variety of attack modes, which present vivid action effects in combat. That is to say, the combat system based on DPS elements can make combat more stirring and exciting.

 

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  SavageHorizon

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7/19/13 1:46:05 AM#33
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

 

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.

Really, it is as you said, it is my opinion. 

Yeah we have established it's your opinion but making claims like above warrants an explanation on how you come to that conclusion, surly.

Let's be honest, you can't answer it because you will be countered.

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  Shauneepeak

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7/19/13 1:54:14 AM#34

I am pretty excited and cautiously optimistic. The game is most likely going to be great I think most people are just pissed off by the faction lock because it limits the freedom people expect from an Elder Scrolls game. Though people should not complain too much right from the beginning you have access to a game as big as Skyrim and then soon as you hit, what is it level 15? You gain access to Cyrodiil thus giving you a game larger then both Oblivion and Skyrim fairly early into the game. Then once you beat the main quest line for your faction you may begin one of the other two.

 

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7/19/13 2:28:45 AM#35
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

 

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.

Really, it is as you said, it is my opinion. 

Yeah we have established it's your opinion but making claims like above warrants an explanation on how you come to that conclusion, surly.

Let's be honest, you can't answer it because you will be countered.

It's so pathetically childish that you can't let people enjoy the excitement of a game they are looking forward to because you are more looking forward to another game. Sometimes a great game is more than the sum of its parts and can't be explained by dissecting every feature. I'm looking forward to trying archage, but I haven't tried it yet so ill reserve judgement.

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  azzamasin

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7/19/13 5:08:59 AM#36
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by DocBrody everyone will buy it anyway
Pretty much.  Even I plan on buying nad playing, but how long will it keep me is the big question, as of right now I will go into this the same way as I did going into SWTOR, a game to be played till I hit the level cap and fin all the exploration/questing content.

 

it will take a while to go through all the content from the sounds of it, unless you are a power gamer.

if that is the case then i would say no themepark mmo is going to be for you in terms of longevity.

but if they follow through with the claims they have made so far, there will be a lot of content at least.

6 hours a day is normally considered a power gamer but I also read all texts, wonder around for the pure joy of it and take my time doing things.  1 true power gamer will do in 1 hour what it takes me to do in 6 or 7.  Hopefully the game's progression system and 50+ & 50++ zones take me a few months or longer.

 

So yea I hope it takes me a while, my most personal favorite part of any MMO is the leveling portion so the longer it takes the merrier.  I also for whatever reason abhore playing alts so to me the leveling progression is normally a 1 time deal.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  ste2000

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7/19/13 5:23:38 AM#37
Originally posted by UchihaJoel
Im glad there are a few of us not hating on the game... people now a days take things too serious. So many long posts just complaining. It's going to be fun and no doubt the haters and lovers alike will buy it 100%

I am not hating the game, I just think it will be a huge disappointment.

But I'd like to be proved wrong.

 

ESO should feel like a virtual world, but by admission of the Producer himself,  it will play more like a Multiplayer game.

I am not sure this is the right direction for an IP which in all its Single Player version feels like a Virtual World more than a game.

I think Zenimax totally missed the point of TES popularity.

 

  jdlamson75

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7/19/13 5:57:58 AM#38

Dear SavageHorizon,

 

This is a thread about Elder Scrolls Online.  The Archeage forums are thataway ~~~~~>

 

  Dihoru

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7/19/13 9:42:03 AM#39
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Brabbit1987
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Brabbit1987

 

The other reason why I am excited for it is because I at least am pretty sure it will have more going for it then any current mmo out during it's time. No offence to all the other MMOs XD.

 

Okay the above is your opinion but i would like to know how you came to it. Now, you are obviously talking about the games features so let's here why you think the above. Please don't say the combat or skills system because there are other mmo that let you wear any armour and use any weapon. A prime example is Archeage which also has 120 available classes to each player. You want to be a wizard wearing plate armour, you can. Obviously certain weapons and armour are better suited to certain roles but it's way more flexible than TESO. So now we have the combat skill system out the way, what next. Please don't say the pvp.

Really, it is as you said, it is my opinion. 

Yeah we have established it's your opinion but making claims like above warrants an explanation on how you come to that conclusion, surly.

Let's be honest, you can't answer it because you will be countered.

Actually it's simply a matter of that I don't need to explain my opinion to you. I am not a 2 year old, I am able to choose what i like and do not like. I am able to state my own opinions and very well know it is my own opinion. 

My IQ is 130+, while not the best, it is certainly not low. I very well do understand the concept of an opinion. Do you? I surely hope so, and if you do, then this discussion is clearly over.

Go do a mensa test to see your actual IQ (you can find one of them on their official website) because if we were to be bragging my IQ half brain dead from sleep sits at 145 according to one test but that don't make sense, does it?

  azzamasin

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7/19/13 9:45:54 AM#40
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by UchihaJoel
Im glad there are a few of us not hating on the game... people now a days take things too serious. So many long posts just complaining. It's going to be fun and no doubt the haters and lovers alike will buy it 100%

I am not hating the game, I just think it will be a huge disappointment.

But I'd like to be proved wrong.

 

ESO should feel like a virtual world, but by admission of the Producer himself,  it will play more like a Multiplayer game.

I am not sure this is the right direction for an IP which in all its Single Player version feels like a Virtual World more than a game.

I think Zenimax totally missed the point of TES popularity.

 

 Agreed.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

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