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General Discussion  » (Poll) FRR is taking players from GW2?

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7/18/13 1:36:44 PM#61

Why would someone "leave" a game that's free to play after purchase? You could not play the game for two months and come back and lose absolutely nothing for it as far as value goes.


On the other hand, if you left ARR for two months, then you just wasted $30.


I'm going to play both games, but I'd leave ARR before I left GW2. I'm not even sure if ARR will keep me as a subscriber, but I know I'll at least get one or two months of great fun out of it, so I'll play that until I'm not having fun and then cancel my sub (and to subscribe later, most likely, after more content is added, etc).


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7/18/13 1:44:39 PM#62

Did I miss ARR launching or something because how can anyone leave GW2 for an non-launched game?

People always take breaks from their current MMO to play betas they get into doesn't mean they are gone permanently from their current game.

Also where is any evidence of sudden mass migration from GW2?


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7/18/13 1:48:44 PM#63
i will be leaving gw2 for ffxiv because in gw2 i felt there was really no purpose in my progression. while in ffxiv stuff i do matters. crafting for example and the auction house is a player based economy. of course one could get gear out of instances but crafting in ffxiv really adds to the flavor to the gameplay while in gw2 you cant make money out of crafting. but it's not only the crafting. the pve style of ffxiv and story line is insane compared to little gw2 pve contents. as for pvp would be nice if ffxiv did follow a rvr pvp system. wouldn't mind kicking those humans ass with my miqote or however u spell it.

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7/18/13 1:58:36 PM#64
Originally posted by Thorbrand
I stopped playing GW2 when I fought the first dragon and seen how much a waste gamers are with their scripted MMOs and how non-entertaining the game was. I will be playing FFXIV because it is a MMORPG, we haven't seen one of those in about 5yrs now. No action adventure games online are not MMO!!!!

So FFXIV(v2.0):ARR won't be a scripted MMO with scripted dungeons, raids, and boss fights?  That does sound a lot more interesting than what I've been shown so far.  So how exactly is it not scripted compared to every other game (I won't call them mmos so we don't have to argue about such a ridiculous claim) out there now?  Just to be clear what are examples of scripted fights in say WoW, Rift, EQ2, LotRO, EQ, Tera, GW2, AoC, TSW, DDO, and all those other non-mmos out there?  What boss fights aren't scripted in FFXIV(v2.0):ARR and how do those fights work?  I think non-scripting activity by any npc in any game would be really interesting.

Curse you AquaScum!


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7/18/13 2:08:27 PM#65

I voted no as in my case, and I'd imagine many others, GW2 took players away from GW2..


1. The Mystic Toilet.

2. Totally crap economy

3. Extremely shallow gameplay.

But these are for another thread.

I will be subbing to FF14 :ARR as I've thoroughly enjoyed the beta weekends.  Its not perfect, but its already proven itself deeper than anything else released in recent years,


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7/18/13 2:20:53 PM#66
A thread about pulling players from other games into the board's game, yet the result is so close, that tells you something.....

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7/18/13 2:23:27 PM#67

remember when people were leaving GW2 for PS2, DF:UW, NWO, RIFT f2p, TERA f2p, etc.?



this game and you fanboys will be massive failures if ARR doesn't post 2.5 million subs the first month, taking players form GW2 and all.


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7/18/13 2:23:32 PM#68
I still plan on playing GW2/Tera/TSW/Defiance every other weekend  but will never use the cashshop I bought  all these game at retail (Tera/TSW when they where P2P) and that's all the cash I'm willing to spend on these games. I perfer  P2P over Cashshops. I like all these games for different reasons. 


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7/18/13 2:25:35 PM#69
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
I will not play a subbed game as long as there are so many good and free to play games available... i will have to wayt till it goes F2p

You might be in an old folks home by then ;)


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7/18/13 2:26:17 PM#70
Originally posted by SnarkRitter
A thread about pulling players from other games into the board's game, yet the result is so close, that tells you something.....

Like you won't see GW2s fans like yoruself not flock to defend it as much as possible once you see GW2 in it, yeah, defeinitely tells you something. :)


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7/18/13 2:27:25 PM#71
Since the FFXIV beta I haven't played any other MMO's. Catching up on single player games at the moment. I have been craving FFXIV and phase 4 can't come soon enough 

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7/18/13 2:32:50 PM#72
Originally posted by vandal5627
Originally posted by SnarkRitter
A thread about pulling players from other games into the board's game, yet the result is so close, that tells you something.....

Like you won't see GW2s fans like yoruself not flock to defend it as much as possible once you see GW2 in it, yeah, defeinitely tells you something. :)

This thread is specifically addressing GW2 players, if they didn't come over here there wouldn't be anyone to vote in the poll. I mean, no XIV player would vote to sway the results, they are honest folks here.


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7/18/13 2:48:11 PM#73
what's with FRR? some extremely short version of FFXIV:ARR?


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7/18/13 3:06:14 PM#74

I'd already left GW2 before getting in the beta and the deciding to pre-order FFXIV:ARR, so I guess the option for me is 'No'.

However I think that misrepresents my position so I won't be voting.


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7/18/13 3:24:10 PM#75

No. Despite many flaws in GW2 it is still a lot closer to my "dreamgame" than FFXIV:ARR will ever be.

I would be silly to play a game, designed with mechanics I prefer to do without. Eventually I would just bitch and moan because I made a bad choice. I guess I could bitch/moan in an attempt to change the gamedesign but that would be both futile and stupid. Some of the people who "leave" GW2 will definately be happier in FFXIW if they prefer the mechanics/content offered here.

It is basically a win-win: Some players go to a game much closer to their desires, some players stay in GW2 and see less bitching/moaning that only revolves around the percieved lack of endgame raids, gearprogression and all the other stuff GW2 was designed to avoid :-)


We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)


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7/18/13 3:38:11 PM#76
Originally posted by RizelStar
Tried biting my tounge but you sure that payment model statement is true? cause no joke here but similar statements arose about Rift,SWTOR,AOC,TSW, and Tera just to name a few.  Also on the rest of your statements, fair enough mate.




Well, let's not forget that all of those games started off as P2P but made the switch after subs began to fall in an attempt to rake in more cash when investors got upset (in the case of Trion, Rift's subs were dropping but really they just bet too much on Defiance which didn't do that well).  I'm not sure about the other games, but I know for SWTOR that you pretty much have to sub in order to actually enjoy the game.  Like Blizzard, Square Enix does not need to please investors with short-term earnings. They can afford to focus on the long-term, which is why they can afford to go P2P instead of relying on F2P to appease investors in the short-term. 


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7/18/13 3:40:09 PM#77
Originally posted by BadSpock

I left GW2 a while ago. So technically no? But I voted yes.

I agree with the bit you posted though - GW2 was great fun for a while, but I like end-game progression and trinity combat and I really like what I am hearing about housing in FFXIV and the potential for RvR...

I need the carrot.

And I think trinity combat + dungeons/raids builds good community via guilds.

Guilds need content to beat their heads against, IMO.

Agreed. On everything. 


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7/18/13 3:45:30 PM#78
Originally posted by simulacra
Originally posted by RizelStar
Tried biting my tounge but you sure that payment model statement is true? cause no joke here but similar statements arose about Rift,SWTOR,AOC,TSW, and Tera just to name a few.  Also on the rest of your statements, fair enough mate.




Well, let's not forget that all of those games started off as P2P but made the switch after subs began to fall in an attempt to rake in more cash when investors got upset (in the case of Trion, Rift's subs were dropping but really they just bet too much on Defiance which didn't do that well).  I'm not sure about the other games, but I know for SWTOR that you pretty much have to sub in order to actually enjoy the game.  Like Blizzard, Square Enix does not need to please investors with short-term earnings. They can afford to focus on the long-term, which is why they can afford to go P2P instead of relying on F2P to appease investors in the short-term. 

F2P does give some great advantages over P2P, mostly when it comes to the ease of getting people to try your game. Like you talked about with SWToR. Once you get top level you have to sub to join the end game community. But P2P has some great advantages but thats why I think the F2P hybrid model is the best option. But thats just my guess. Is it the best option? I think we will find out sometime in the next 2-5 years =-) Watching things change is going to be a lot of fun. Im just glad its not my money on the line. =-)

=-D Only on a forum can optimism be called the bad thing and pessimism is the good thing =-D


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7/18/13 3:48:20 PM#79

Billy, I can tell you some people (like me for example) won't leave GW2 for ARR.


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7/18/13 3:52:21 PM#80

Nobody that I know who is playing GW2 will be leaving it for FFXIV

They really are different mmos though. Chances are that if you are interested in the type of game FFXIV is, GW2 wouldn't be to your taste. And vice versa.

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