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  Snoepie

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OP  7/18/13 4:34:49 AM#1

CCP is the only company that made succesfull sandbox from nothing..

 

Altho i don't play eve because of the combat system, i think CCP is the only company out there that made a game with almost none resources to the best mmorpg sandbox out there..

 

Whatever CCP is making with WOD.. i think we can argee that the master company of sandbox(CCP) will be succesfull in making this game..

 

- it will be open world

- it will be different and unique mmorpg concerning elements ingame ( sandbox )

 

Hopefully WOD combat system will be player skilled

  Muke

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7/18/13 4:38:23 AM#2

Not sure, CCP might have a freak anomaly in EVE as Blizzard did with their elves game.

 

CCP's DUST so far is a joke, so not everything they touch turns into gold....let's hope and wait.

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  ZoeMcCloskey

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7/18/13 4:41:15 AM#3

For the time frame SWG was a very successful sandbox as well.  Just SOE got greedy and chased greener pastures and ruined their own thing.  My hope is that they learned very well from that mistake and EQN turns out great.  But I a big fan of VtM so hoping for WoD to be good also :) 

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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7/18/13 5:07:17 AM#4

Wrong, Origin / Electronic Arts released a sandbox way before CCP even dreamed about EvE.

It's called Ultima Online, and it's still up and running today.

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7/18/13 5:22:25 AM#5
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Wrong, Origin / Electronic Arts released a sandbox way before CCP even dreamed about EvE.

It's called Ultima Online, and it's still up and running today.

Not real sure about this but I don't think EA held rights to the original Ultima???

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  Aethaeryn

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7/18/13 5:33:47 AM#6
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Wrong, Origin / Electronic Arts released a sandbox way before CCP even dreamed about EvE.

It's called Ultima Online, and it's still up and running today.

I think his point was "from nothing" . . at least that is what I think he meant by "with almost none resources" :).  UO was based on a game world and shared similar graphics and ideas as the other Ultima games.

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  apocoluster

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7/18/13 5:41:52 AM#7
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  maplestone

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7/18/13 6:10:08 AM#8

Minecraft.

  uplink4242

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7/18/13 6:27:17 AM#9

MC and eve are probably the best sandbox games atm (at least for verything I tried so far). UO also counts, yes but it's a little outdated by now, but that was probably the ancestor to sandbox gaming.

WOD is the only mmo I have some expectations for.

  maplestone

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7/18/13 7:43:12 AM#10
Originally posted by uplink4242

WOD is the only mmo I have some expectations for.

My gut feeling (from what I know of LARPers) is that it's really hard to capture the atmosphere of those games in an MMO because so much of the gameplay is communication - body language and conversation rather than actions and stats.   They're a bright and inventive company, so I'm curious to see what they'll do with it, but it's definitely going to be challenging to make into a mass-market product.

  Loktofeit

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7/18/13 7:49:42 AM#11
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Wrong, Origin / Electronic Arts released a sandbox way before CCP even dreamed about EvE.

It's called Ultima Online, and it's still up and running today.

Agreed. I think there are plenty of other successful sandbox focused MMOs.

A Tale in the Desert and Puzzle Pirates are two more that I can think of.

 

There are also the social focused MMOs that are very sandbox heavy, and many of them have been successful. Some examples are:

  • Second Life
  • There
  • Sociolotron
  • Kaneva
  • Furcadia
 
 

  Loktofeit

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7/18/13 7:55:08 AM#12
Originally posted by maplestone

Minecraft.

 

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time we start talkin 'bout sanboxin' MMOs, some poster got to pull Minecraft out their ass. That's their one, that's their one. Minecraft, Minecraft. Let me tell you something once and for all. Minecraft was good, but compared to MMOs, Minecraft ain't shit."

 

 

  Icewhite

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7/18/13 8:03:40 AM#13
Originally posted by Loktofeit

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time we start talkin 'bout sanboxin' MMOs, some poster got to pull Minecraft out their ass. That's their one, that's their one. Minecraft, Minecraft. Let me tell you something once and for all. Minecraft was good, but compared to MMOs, Minecraft ain't shit."

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  hammarus

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7/18/13 8:06:36 AM#14

I too have high hopes for WoD.  And, EvE Online is an excellent game, I still play off and on.  Well... I maintain my accounts anyway.  Its true Dust was pretty crappy, but here is hoping they update it and make it better, (should have been released on pc too, that hurt it).

As far a sandboxes go, and not using a loose definition as many posters are inclined to do, Ultima O definately is the Grandmother/father to all genre, type and flavor of mmo but is so "old" as to be dare i say irrelevent.  When people say MMO game now a days they don't mean launch dates pre birth of the wheel.

  GeezerGamer

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7/18/13 8:07:26 AM#15
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by maplestone

Minecraft.

 

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time we start talkin 'bout sanboxin' MMOs, some poster got to pull Minecraft out their ass. That's their one, that's their one. Minecraft, Minecraft. Let me tell you something once and for all. Minecraft was good, but compared to MMOs, Minecraft ain't shit."

 

 

Hold on there!

Minecraft is the shit!

It's just not an MMORPG.

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  hammarus

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7/18/13 8:08:02 AM#16
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Loktofeit

"Oh there they go. There they go, every time we start talkin 'bout sanboxin' MMOs, some poster got to pull Minecraft out their ass. That's their one, that's their one. Minecraft, Minecraft. Let me tell you something once and for all. Minecraft was good, but compared to MMOs, Minecraft ain't shit."

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  Theocritus

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7/18/13 8:12:54 AM#17
Originally posted by Muke

Not sure, CCP might have a freak anomaly in EVE as Blizzard did with their elves game.

 

CCP's DUST so far is a joke, so not everything they touch turns into gold....let's hope and wait.

 You may very well be right.....ITs kinda like music...Just because someone writes one great song doesn't mean they can write several...often times it ends with one great song.

  apocoluster

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7/18/13 8:14:57 AM#18
 I hope the game is great   But I suspect it will degenerate from WoD to world of Gangrels  and then to world of diablerie. All the while there will be Malkavian role players on global screaming : I am a duck.      I am  a shoe.      Etc etc. 

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  maplestone

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7/18/13 8:23:34 AM#19
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

It's just not an MMORPG.

I disagree. I see Minecraft as a prototype of a road not taken by an industry that has gelled around a few well-polished templates.  It's something that goes back to basics and challenges some of our fundemental assumptions about what an MMO has to be. So even though I do not see it as my ideal game (nor am I am even playing on public servers very often when I do play it), I feel is important to call it an MMO and put it on the table to widen the imagination.

PS to Loktofeit: :-)

  Arakazi

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7/18/13 8:31:47 AM#20
I was going to ruin the OP's thread with facts. But that would be no fun....

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