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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn: Moving Forward and Looking Back

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7/18/13 4:04:04 AM#41
Originally posted by Grakulen
Originally posted by jmlane223
You were excited about turning 20? I think most people couldn't careless about 20 and more about 21... someone does not party outside of games


He is British. Turning 21 doesn't mean anything there.

Turning 18 is the big one in the UK.  No more sneaking into pubs hoping the barman will not ask your age.  At 18 you can buy alcohol and vote but can have sex and get married at 16 and drive a car at 17.  Funny old laws in the UK :)


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7/18/13 4:58:17 AM#42

Turning 20 is a step from being a teenager, so its a big thing for may of us, and being British 16 and 18 are the 2 other age milestones for us, sex then booze, legally of course :P  Though what gets my goat up is many establishments regard you as an adult at 14 making you pay for adult tickets rather than child tickets, rules are bent to suit.

Back on topic, great write up, ARR is looking to be a game to take most of my free time up, my garden will wither, the fish stocks will replenish and my gf will become an ARR widow.


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7/18/13 5:29:34 AM#43
I don't like ARR.  They put so much effort into downgrading the graphics/animations just to add quest spam and reduce zone size.  I don't get it.

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7/18/13 5:43:01 AM#44

As a FF fan, I really hope this and FFXV bring about a huge rebound for the series.



"As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days— those are now the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2


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7/18/13 6:10:49 AM#45

I'm more than fine with you not liking my articles. Each to their own etc.

However, that article wasn't one of my first, I had been writing for this site for about a year, and the whole "FFXIV fanboy message" bit was meant to serve as something of a comedic device rather than a "hey, look at how ALL FF fans are".

I would make mention of Guild Wars 2 or any other MMO for that matter but that'd be off topic. I don't think its unproffesional to on occasion poke a little fun at your audience because we're all here to talk/enjoy MMORPGs and we can all take a little good natured ribbing. 


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7/18/13 7:07:42 AM#46
Originally posted by shakermaker0

I'm more than fine with you not liking my articles. Each to their own etc.

However, that article wasn't one of my first, I had been writing for this site for about a year, and the whole "FFXIV fanboy message" bit was meant to serve as something of a comedic device rather than a "hey, look at how ALL FF fans are".

I would make mention of Guild Wars 2 or any other MMO for that matter but that'd be off topic. I don't think its unproffesional to on occasion poke a little fun at your audience because we're all here to talk/enjoy MMORPGs and we can all take a little good natured ribbing. 


Unfortunately, most of us are here just to show how much we hate the genre and all the games within XD

It's weird.


"As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days— those are now the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2


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7/18/13 9:43:05 AM#47

Aye  ARR does seem far better then 1.0. Almost as fun as FFVII.  as for EQ, what made it big was that it was a social MMO, a  chat room with 3d graphics. We made friends and enemies in the chat channels.  Players were not playing just to stare in a spell book as they regen mana. but yes  after this beta it does  give that same feeling UO, EQ, WOW and DAOC gave at first.

The outlook of hope. 1.0 had the same feeling as EQ2 and WAR from the start.

I will be buying the pre-order when I get back from vacation.


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7/18/13 12:02:17 PM#48
Originally posted by Grakulen
Originally posted by jmlane223
You were excited about turning 20? I think most people couldn't careless about 20 and more about 21... someone does not party outside of games


He is British. Turning 21 doesn't mean anything there.

Indeed..  Us brits first consider 16 as a milestone as we can get our provisional motorbike license.  Than at 17 its our car license, then 18 when we can legally go for a pint.  Of course most UK kiddies start going out drinking in the pubs n clubs at around 15 or 16 :)

On topic...  Good article..  Im a noob as FF games but I've thoroughly enjoyed beta.  I will be subbing...



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7/18/13 12:03:49 PM#49

"Whether or not the end game, PvP, or attached baubles are worthwhile seems elementary at this point. I know that I have found something enchanting within the adventure, and my mind hasn’t simply turned to the checklist of activities. I believe in the world, and I am having fun. For however long it lasts, I know that Square Enix have at least salvaged their reputation: even in beta Final Fantasy XIV is truly reborn. "


 Although the entire article was a good read, this last quoted portion was my favorite.     This is the best way to sum up FFXIV at this point.


I am so proud of Square Enix for doing so much to resolve this dark situation.   I feel like I could have written this article myself, as I felt and feel the exact same way, only, I was an avid FFXI player, so I had extremely high hopes for FFXIV.   I felt burned after buying that, and all the patches really didn't help much.   I gave up.    When I got ARR beta invite(s), I ignored them.  Didn't care.       This last weekend during Phase 3, I heard from a buddy that he was giving it a shot, so I figured why not it's just a weekend.      As said in this column, "I am so glad that I did."


I haven't had as much fun and excitement and feeling of wonder and adventure in an mmorpg since FFXI.    


FFXIV: ARR is a great GREAT world to play in.     I can't wait till launch!


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7/18/13 12:34:49 PM#50
Originally posted by Dkuang

Well game's just not for me, even if I'm a big FF fan. What the game offers is just too much of what's already done. I'm not asking for innovation to the one millions power but the games combat, crafting, questing, FATE's, and reliance on "procs" for combat is just well...too "meh". Might as well go back to WoW if I wanted everything FF is offering but done better, or even GW2 for its live events.

FF will surely make a killing in sales, FF fanboys/girls alike, but many will surely see how much the game is lacking 3-6 months after release or even extended game play. Good luck to those who will throw their money and time into this game. I for one am not.

Fair enough, the game's not for you..   But, I just have to touch up on some points here.


1)  this is the first time I've finally felt that there is an MMO that does "some things that have already been done, but better" instead of saying that about WoW.    Everything this game does that WoW also does, FFXIV ARR does better, and with more of a feeling of BEING THERE and being part of the world that it's happening in.  

2)  You simply did not play FFXIV ARR if you think the crafting system is not innovative, or some how "done better' in WoW or GW2.  No fracking way.  

3)  The game already has the systems/mechanics/content in place to make it last years, not to mention whatever content is released in the future.  I played FFXI for years and I already see more ways/reasons that FFXIV ARR will keep me playing, and it has jack shit to do with some shallow 'end game'  -- the FF community alone makes it worth playing the games for years.    WoW has never and will never be able to say that.  Ever.

4)  I got much more enjoyment out of FATES than I ever did in GW2, WAR, and RIFT's dynamic content.    Sad considering those games are built around such gimicks and the games still aren't very enjoyable to someone who wants to feel like a real part of the game.  

5)  I am not a FF fanboi.  I've never even beaten a FF game.   All of the friends and clan mates I know of that are buying and subbing ARR are not fanbois either.  Some of them even hate other FF games, but they could not ignore how much they enjoyed the beta (to each their own?)

6)  I played FFXI because the people were great, the world felt exciting, and things weren't handed to me.    I had to earn things and when I did, I felt gratified and the rewards just felt more substantial.  And they didn't nullify everything I worked for every 1-3 months in some balance patch.    FFXIV ARR seems to have this aspect as well, even though there is obviously a bit more weight/importance added to gear and equipment, there are other aspects of the game that when achieved/reached, the bountiful rewards are designed to last the lifetime of the character.


Anyways, I hope you enjoy whatever games you are interested in.    Thanks for your 2 cents on 'how the game is going to fail in 3-6 months"   


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7/22/13 10:32:27 PM#51

Nice read!

I am currently experiencing withdrawal after phase 3 ended. ARR is the best MMO I have ever played, and I've played many in the past 10 years including WoW. Sure, ARR is not perfect, but they are improving things quite a bit. I'm not comparing ARR beta to long established MMOs, but rather comparing it to other MMOs when they were in beta phase. If ARR is this good now, just envision farther down the line as they continue rolling out features. They've taken familiar MMO features and innovated them, like what they did with crafting, and the housing plans. Plus post release they'll be adding things not done before in an MMORPG like the amusement park and talk of chocobo racing, etc.

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