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  Datawarlock

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7/15/13 2:50:34 AM#21
Originally posted by MMOExposed
What are some classes that you like but dont see very often in fantasy MMOs?

 

 

Tanks, Healers, Dps.

These days games are dumbed down so the solo player does it all and there's no point in even having classes anymore.

  Hylert

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7/15/13 3:12:02 AM#22
Can't understand all who want mages with heavy armor, i would rather have an offensive mage like the HOX i AoC. Had a lot of fun playing that class. But what i miss most is a warrior who can tank and don't have shitty damage, like the old 2nd editon Adnd one.
  jesad

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7/15/13 3:28:43 AM#23

For some of the classes already mentioned.

The battle priest exists in a lot of games, we call him the Paladin.  The true paladin however, meaning the god worshiping non-bow using, sword and board, chivalrous, warrior first, healer way later, has never been properly ported over from D&D or Arthurian Legend as an archetype.

The Enchanter (whom I seek out in most games) has been dismantled as it was, but crowd control still exists even as recently as Guild Wars 2, I know, I played one.  Still, that original buff/debuff/crowd control wizard was one of my favorites.

The Diplomat exists in Vanguard, and is (or at least used to be) instrumental in the building of guild houses.

One thing I haven't seen in almost any game, even it's namesake (Age of Conan), is the shirtless barbarian hardened by it's environment with no need to wear armor or use shields, averse to magic (to the point where in D&D it got experience for breaking magical items), and able to run with the speed of the gazelle.

Likewise I have NEVER seen an African tribal warrior or shaman (Props to Diablo III on the witchdoctor class but that is not my favorite interface), a Native American Warrior or Medicine man, or a full blown golem summoning Kabbalist or Aztec (screw that last one, just bring Dark Sun back all together.  Those were epic classes, armor, and weapons).

I have never seen a proper Ninja, which is in fact a fantasy character and not a real one, nor Indian based Devas and Asuras.

I have never seen the bowman who actually had to rely on accuracy, ala William Tell or Robin Hood. (but that's more of a mechanical thing and stretching things a little.  But having a gunslinger here and there couldn't hurt though.

I could do this all day.  There are a ton of character types available in history and  fiction that I would love to play  that have not been recreated, or at least properly recreated in MMO's yet.

  UOlover

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7/15/13 3:31:50 AM#24
I want more EQ enchanters and necromancers
  moosecatlol

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7/15/13 3:33:50 AM#25
I like melee casters, but the truth they're in almost every other game in some form or another. I guess something more rare would be a martial arts caster.
  Rydeson

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7/15/13 3:45:15 AM#26
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz

The classes that aren't still in mmos from EQ1

  • Bards aren't common in new games
  • Enchanters (never seen anything like em since)
  •  Mages (I really miss a great pet-based class that doesn't suck)

     I miss those classes too.. along with the kiting classes as well..  BUT we'll never see them again in PvE because of PvP customers..  It would be too OP for chanters to charm other players for long terms, or having something like a bard or druid KITE another player all day long..  This is one huge problem I see in growth and availability.. EVERYTHING has to take PvP into consideration which means that PvE LOOSES.. :(  

  Adamantine

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7/15/13 5:05:55 AM#27

I will always miss the L2 Tyrant in any other game. Such a fun class. Basically they are damage dealer Monks, but with some magic tricks, like Totems, for example one that made you extremely powerful against archers, and they had a huge damage spell.

  Lord.Bachus

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7/15/13 6:13:16 AM#28

Bards are sadly a dieing class 

 

and i would love to see some necros more based on support, like vanguards bloodmage

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Adamantine

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7/15/13 8:11:58 AM#29

Oh, and I would miss Dread Knight, Blood Mage and Disciple from Vanguard.

Except, well, I am playing Vanguard.

 

  Icewhite

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7/15/13 8:14:03 AM#30

Buff/Debuff is essentially gone from MMOs.

So are Controllers--butch PVP players whine like girls about cc.

And performing bards...gone the way of roleplay and the Dodo.

I have never seen a proper Ninja, which is in fact a fantasy character and not a real one, nor Indian based Devas and Asuras.

But man, we sure do see lots of badly-done ones. Along with pirates, monks....and Anti-Whatevers.

I like your list. Wonder how many players are willing to grasp an archetype they don't already know from Gygaxian traditions. Or how many devs are willing to do a little research.

Of course; some of them are going to be a little scary for the Legal team--political correctness and cultural sensitivity...

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  Lord.Bachus

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7/15/13 8:37:34 AM#31
Originally posted by Icewhite

Buff/Debuff is essentially gone from MMOs.

So are Controllers--butch PVP players whine like girls about cc.

And performing bards...gone the way of roleplay and the Dodo.

I have never seen a proper Ninja, which is in fact a fantasy character and not a real one, nor Indian based Devas and Asuras.

But man, we sure do see lots of badly-done ones. Along with pirates, monks....and Anti-Whatevers.

I like your list. Wonder how many players are willing to grasp a character they don't already know from Gygaxian traditions. Or how many devs are willing to do a little research.

Well, buffing debuffing and controlling are the key ellements of GW2 gameplay... Sure they are much shorter in duration as the slower games from years passed, but this is the essence of GW2 combat.  Personally i think GW2 is the first game that actually pretty mucch balanced this for PvP vs PvE, essential in both.

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Maquiame

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7/15/13 9:54:44 AM#32
Disciple from Vanguard, true CC classes, Monks, evil battlemages, armored mages and other non cloth mages. I prefer hybrid classes personally, but I wish to see an mmo that has hybrid jack of all trades classes WITH specialized classes too.

Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  dave6660

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7/15/13 11:35:33 AM#33

Crowd Control please.

The Illusion / Storm controller from City of Heroes was a blast.

 

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  ragz45

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7/15/13 11:36:55 AM#34
Staff weilding melee fighters that actually use proper staff combat, instead of swinging it like a club.  Think friar DAOC & Chanter Aion.

  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

7/15/13 4:25:27 PM#35
Originally posted by Icewhite

.......... how many devs are willing to do a little research.............

Why bother when there is a copy and paste option?  *sarcasm*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EoRBvdVPQ

  User Deleted
7/16/13 10:25:28 PM#36

My opinion on the most interesting class types are a fighter focused around utilizing magic to augment/supplement ones own fighting skill. My best example of this would be the Valewalker from Hibernia in DAOC. It melded the reliance of self buffs to be a functionable melee fighter.

I really liked the concept of a caster that looks somewhat soft, but is hardened solely with his/her own magic. None of that heavy armor mage stuff. I'm thinking more like robes and a big scythe etc. How about shirtless, a pair of pants and a longsword with shield. Maybe a seemingly wimpy looking guy, no muscles that can instantly form large muscles when the need arises and can go toe to toe with an ogre etc. I feel like this avenue is rarely explored.

  Masterfuzzfuzz

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7/16/13 10:33:48 PM#37
Originally posted by Rydeson
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz

The classes that aren't still in mmos from EQ1

  • Bards aren't common in new games
  • Enchanters (never seen anything like em since)
  •  Mages (I really miss a great pet-based class that doesn't suck)

     I miss those classes too.. along with the kiting classes as well..  BUT we'll never see them again in PvE because of PvP customers..  It would be too OP for chanters to charm other players for long terms, or having something like a bard or druid KITE another player all day long..  This is one huge problem I see in growth and availability.. EVERYTHING has to take PvP into consideration which means that PvE LOOSES.. :(  

PVE always loses. I played on the pvp servers since they launched on EQ1 and they were tons of fun. That was a PVE game that allowed for PVP and did SOME balancing. It worked great imo, but now you have all these dumbed down idiots from WoW and all these new age games that cry all day. Sad days

  Epicent

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Die clickers Die!!!

7/16/13 10:38:17 PM#38
A  red mage that  doesn't suck.
  maplestone

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7/16/13 10:46:38 PM#39

Tourist.

( it was always funny to go into a nethack dungeon armed with lots of gold, an expensive camera and a +0 Hawaiian shirt )

  User Deleted
7/16/13 10:49:25 PM#40
Originally posted by Larloch

Offensive priests, like the non-tribal shamans used to be from Diku Muds. They were more like necromancers that could heal and buff and specialized in maledictions and debuffs but didn't have pets. In other words they are evil Clerics from D&D. I prefer that kind of evil dark shaman over the tribal shaman that is in most mmo's today. I'd say the Shadow Priest from WoW was the closest to this class in a modern mmo.

I like to see healing classes that do more than just heal. Other examples are the Bloodmage and Disciple from Vanguard.

I agree, I really enjoyed the Bloodmage in Vanguard.

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