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  Alumicard

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7/15/13 11:38:38 PM#21

 I would even go so far to put an Intel CPU into my space ship. Just think about the battles! Linux vs Windows vs iOs.

You could then take it a step further and make special in game ads like "The battle of Xyz was won with the new Intel 1234. Now at an item printer near you"

  Rhinotones

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7/16/13 12:12:12 AM#22

It would depend on how intrusive the advertising would be, but without knowing at this point I'd be inclined to say probably not. Most You tube videos or news article videos that display an add first, I'll generally close the page rather than let the add play to watch the video.

There is far too much advertising in my face already and I'm against it.

  iixviiiix

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7/16/13 12:34:24 AM#23

Adverts are fine as long as they aren't pop up type that force you to watch it, i hate that type.

 I interest in how they will put adverts in this kind of game ,

Something like Mcdonald's Tavern or Shell shield wasn't bad name , i find those kind of name are funny lol.

  Eir_S

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7/16/13 12:43:00 AM#24
I hate ads, but I'd consider it if the game was really good and there weren't McDonald's deals on every load screen, etc.
  Lithuanian

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7/16/13 12:56:59 AM#25

It would take a genius to do this right.

Hate to say that, but once one failed doctor of literature was an orator and propagandist. Once he made a leaflet - "the Emperor of the US speaks in Berlin!". Of course, US has no Emperor -never had- but it attracted attention and people actually read this leaflet. Goal was achieved (and emperor title was never again used by him).

That's the history. Now, up to games. It would take a long study, psychological and financial one, to introduce ads in non-intrusive manner. I recall one Russiant MMORPG. They introduced "City of the Masters" where the best non-cash shop shield could be crafted. But not before this town was liberated from hordes of enemies could players take advantage of this. Town was very nice-looking, all made from bricks, red flags with "M" letter ("Master") flying above each tower. And it became clear it was an add for one hosting company (would not mention its name so as not to advertise). That was sword-and-slash fantasy game...but the ad was not too intrusive.

However, it is difficult for me to imagine something like this in Western games. McTown? KFC-laser canon? Dell armor? Intel sword? Nokia battle cruiser? And what good ads are if no one clicks on them? Just impressions show? How to make it usefull and unintrusive? If you have medieval town where crafter sell crossbows and repair shields - how would McDOnalds look like? 

The only thing I could think about is postapocalypse world. World, where some technology remained and players could pick Nokia or Googlephones, smart or non smart ones, maybe find somer preserved burger and drive that quality [insert name] car.

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  Malcanis

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7/16/13 3:23:40 AM#26
Originally posted by JudgeUK

Absolutely no fees at all. Download and play every part of it. Shop items bought only through in game currency.

- but the game cost is subsidized by adverts - either through product placement, signage etc. Or through actual adverts at character sign on, or during flight.

Would you play..........?

 

I'd truly rather just pay a modest subscription and have no adverts, no cash shop, no "convenience" items... just a single payment that directly supports the game I enjoy playing in return for everything within that game.

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  User Deleted
7/16/13 3:33:14 AM#27

Would I?  Yeah, I have no problem with ads as long as the publisher doesn't mind that I ignore them.

 

On the other side, such a game would still need a cash shop.  The "pay to go faster" crowd couldn't deal with not having one.

  twrule

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7/16/13 3:35:15 AM#28

Sure, I wouldn't mind. Most MMOs already have loading screens which are basically ads for the game anyway.

The least intrusive ones I've seen so far, on memory, are those for FFXI and FFXIVl; the first one is blank except for a 'loading' notice in the bottom right of the screen, while the second announces in grand text the name of the zone you are entering - and it even allows you to use your chatbox to talk to others while you wait with no interruption. Something like this latter feature would be a welcome bit of compensation for the ads if such a game ever existed.

  Dauntis

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7/16/13 3:46:15 AM#29
Personally, I think it would be great. If the gameplay and everything was good enough, I probably wouldn't even mind slinging my Mc Sword brought to me by Coca~Cola and AMC Theaters. Who wouldn't want the Taco Bell Hammer of Bowel Destruction (which I order about once a week anyway).

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  User Deleted
7/16/13 3:46:23 AM#30
Originally posted by Lithuanian

However, it is difficult for me to imagine something like this in Western games. McTown? KFC-laser canon? Dell armor? Intel sword? Nokia battle cruiser? And what good ads are if no one clicks on them? Just impressions show? How to make it usefull and unintrusive? If you have medieval town where crafter sell crossbows and repair shields - how would McDOnalds look like? 

See you are just taking it to the rediculous. In a modern setting game you would only need the brand presence on billboards etc to work. Or radio ads on ambient radios as you pass by them. Even just having the actual buildings present is advertisement enough. Maybe go to a real store (Target etc) for clothes shopping, and purchase real brands for your character to wear. If you see something in game that you want to wear in real life, you can get directed to online shopping via an in store NPC. They could also easily offer cross promotions in-game, like save the employees / building from an attack and you get a discount voucher to use in store. Not brand themed armour or weaponry.

Games like TSW and Champions Online already use fake products, usually humerous, on billboards littered around the town, would it really be that inconcievable to replace them with real ads? In a modern setting noone should really think twice about it, I mean these games already have fake ads trying to replicate real life.

As for the brainwashing thing, well yeah, but weak willed people will always be swayed by snake oil salesmen.

  jesad

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7/16/13 3:54:29 AM#31

Anarchy Online did this.  Actually worked too, had me impulse buying Burger King Mushroom and Swiss burgers because the commercial would play every time you went back to the hub to upgrade your parts.

Better to head over to Gamasutra and see if there's a post mortum .......nevermind, I went and did it for ya.

Anarchy Online in game ads

 

  Icewhite

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7/16/13 4:34:25 AM#32
Originally posted by JudgeUK

Absolutely no fees at all. Download and play every part of it. Shop items bought only through in game currency.

- but the game cost is subsidized by adverts - either through product placement, signage etc. Or through actual adverts at character sign on, or during flight.

Would you play..........?

Thing is, advertising doesn't work as well in games as the (initially overeager) marketers thought it might.

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  jazz.be

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7/16/13 5:14:25 AM#33

I will probably get tired of adverts in game.

And when I'm starting to dislike the game for any other reason, these adverts will probably play a huge role in the final decision to completely stop playing.

  Gardavsshade

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7/16/13 5:45:29 AM#34
Originally posted by JudgeUK

Absolutely no fees at all. Download and play every part of it. Shop items bought only through in game currency.

- but the game cost is subsidized by adverts - either through product placement, signage etc. Or through actual adverts at character sign on, or during flight.

Would you play..........?

No, I would not play this, not even try it, not even download it. YUCK. Like we haven't had ten million adverts thrown in our faces over the decades already.

I play MMOs to get away from advertizing!


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  Loktofeit

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7/16/13 7:36:36 AM#35
Originally posted by dgarbini

Yes.

I have complained that this was an untapped venue for quite a while.  It works for TV and boosts movies quite a bit, why not games?

It works fine in several genres and platforms of games, however MMO is one platform where it has not gone over well. One objection is that of paying a monthly fee and receiving ads, despite how in some countries the populace has collectively bent over and taken that one silently from cable, movie theatres, and other entertainment sources. Another objection is that it breaks immersion. Both are valid concerns, the latter being a very difficult hurdle as most MMOs are fantasy themed.

Ads in the games seem to add immersion and realism for sports and racing games, but outside of that, I'm not sure they go over well.

  maplestone

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7/16/13 7:47:10 AM#36

Not me.

I can handle them on websites, but when I actually put my game hat on, I find advertising grates my nerves instantly.  It also tends to correlate with a lot of scummy behaviour (once I'm no longer the one paying the bills, I'm no longer the one being serverd and spyware seems to follow)

  Lord.Bachus

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7/16/13 7:50:45 AM#37
Originally posted by maplestone

Not me.

I can handle them on websites, but when I actually put my game hat on, I find advertising grates my nerves instantly.  It also tends to correlate with a lot of scummy behaviour (once I'm no longer the one paying the bills, I'm no longer the one being serverd and spyware seems to follow)

Really depends on the setting, i coud handle them in a game like Tsw, because of the setting.

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  Theocritus

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7/16/13 8:16:22 AM#38
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
If "The Secret World" was done right, and not with just tiny zones scattered over the world, having a McDonald or a Microsoft advertisement wouldn't be intrusive, but would actually add to the immersion.

 And what's odd is that ANarchy Online used to have adverts in the game but it didn't feel  right in the year 29000+.....Seeing WIll Ferrell in a basketball uni was about as out of place as it gets.

  DMKano

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7/16/13 8:20:20 AM#39
Originally posted by Kyleran
No, I can play several titles right now totally free with no adverts, prefer to keep it that way.

This 100%. Adding ads would be a step backwards, there are 100% free games today with no ads.

 

  lizardbones

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7/16/13 8:23:22 AM#40


Originally posted by DMKano

Originally posted by Kyleran No, I can play several titles right now totally free with no adverts, prefer to keep it that way.
This 100%. Adding ads would be a step backwards, there are 100% free games today with no ads.

 




I'll "Third" that. There are a lot of things I'll put up with, but for some reason advertisements aren't one of them.

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