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General Discussion  » POLL: Will EverQuest Next bring a new golden era to online gaming?

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  Roin

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7/15/13 2:06:09 PM#21
Originally posted by Waterlily
Games like GW2 and Tera are hilarious, it takes people a few days to hit the cap.  In EQ very few people raced to max level, it was going to take months anyway, so you might as well do it at your own pace and enjoy the game.

Comment makes me doubt you actually played EQ. EQ was all about 1) Getting to 50. 2) Collecting those rares like FBSS, SMR, GEB, Yak, SC, etc. Oh and 3 which was the most important. Raising Alcohol Tolerance.

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  CyclopsSlayer

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7/15/13 2:07:43 PM#22

Once upon a time Sony was the Gold Standard of MMO's... Lately what they have produced makes me fear for the quality of any future SoE effort.

Regardless, nothing can be said one way or the other yet. Right now a few scattered quotes and a single screenshot is all we would have to attempt to form an opinion with.

  Lord.Bachus

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7/15/13 2:08:57 PM#23
For those hardcore gamers that cant understand, online gaming is still growing, day by day more people join online gaming. The golden era however is still not uppon us for the next few years.

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations)
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  Mendel

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7/15/13 2:21:29 PM#24

Actually, this is a very interesting question.   Right now, I don't know if I have enough information to make an educated vote.

As one of the "older gamers", I think I would have to include WoW in any Golden Age discussion.  After all, WoW broke out of the gaming niche and was parodied in South Park long before The Simpsons had an EverQuest parody.   I would expect another title that revolutionizes the genre to have similar appeal in popular culture.   And for that to happen, any new game would need to be sufficiently different from previous generations so that it wouldn't be seen as 'just another MMO game', and it will need some kind of mass following -- a huge player base similar to WoW or the longevity of EQ.  I don't know if EQN will deliver enough to distinguish itself in the non-gaming community.

I believe that I, along with most everyone else on this forum, hope that EQN will usher in a new golden era.   There are lots of hurdles that it must navigate, and I don't really know if it will deliver.   It already seems that just in the gaming community, the expectations are high, which will leave many people disappointed, which will also work against the golden age hypothesis.

And 'Older gamer"?  Really?   I prefer "experienced gamer" or even "highly-leveled gamer".  :)

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  Waterlily

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7/15/13 2:24:40 PM#25
Originally posted by Roin
Originally posted by Waterlily
Games like GW2 and Tera are hilarious, it takes people a few days to hit the cap.  In EQ very few people raced to max level, it was going to take months anyway, so you might as well do it at your own pace and enjoy the game.

Comment makes me doubt you actually played EQ. EQ was all about 1) Getting to 50. 2) Collecting those rares like FBSS, SMR, GEB, Yak, SC, etc. Oh and 3 which was the most important. Raising Alcohol Tolerance.

I played EQ for about 11 years, and still do. EQ might have been about only for loot for you, for me it was about the community.

I never liked loot hos in EQ either.

  ElRenmazuo

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7/15/13 2:26:03 PM#26
God I hope not, I dont want to grind all day for 1 million experience points and wait 6 hours for a group.
  Lord.Bachus

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7/15/13 2:28:44 PM#27
Originally posted by tkreep
God I hope not, I dont want to grind all day for 1 million experience points and wait 6 hours for a group.

I think this is something that every developer understands by now...

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations)
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  Distopia

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7/15/13 2:36:44 PM#28
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
For those hardcore gamers that cant understand, online gaming is still growing, day by day more people join online gaming. The golden era however is still not uppon us for the next few years.

Technically it's passed. At least if we're going by the true meaning of a golden age. MMO's were pure to form in the early days. They've become something else since then.

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  superconducting

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7/15/13 2:41:55 PM#29
Originally posted by DancingQueen

will EQN bring back the golden days of online gaming?

 

I REALLY wanted to believe that game companies nowadays have the courage to do things differently than WoW, but that reinterpretation art just dissuaded me so heavily. Now my cynical side keeps telling me- did I really think EQNext could resist adopting parts of the WoW model?

I have more confidence the golden age will stem from Crowdfunded projects like Shroud of the Avatar, Star Citizen, Camelot Unchained, and PathFinder Online. These all have the common denominator of being sandboxes that actually listen to their players and create their own trends, as risky or as bold as they may seem (because they are not at the mercy of publishers).

  silvermember

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7/15/13 2:49:09 PM#30
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
For those hardcore gamers that cant understand, online gaming is still growing, day by day more people join online gaming. The golden era however is still not uppon us for the next few years.

Technically it's passed. At least if we're going by the true meaning of a golden age. MMO's were pure to form in the early days. They've become something else since then.

I would say you are wrong. The golden age hasn't even been reached and it wont be reached until technology progressives much futher a long.

Calling MMORPG that were release 10 years ago the golden age is nothing more than older generation wishing things were the same. Actually, if things hadn't changed with WOW the genre would be dead by now or wouldn't be as huge as it is now.

Anyways, it is too early to be able to properly determine when something was the golden age, but it certainly wasn't during the time of EQ1 and of UO. 

  TribeofOne

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7/15/13 2:57:06 PM#31
SoE has really killed the "Everquest" brand. IMO they shouldnt name the game Everquest Next that golden era can never be recaptured. Let it go
  achesoma

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7/15/13 3:07:53 PM#32
Originally posted by tkreep
God I hope not, I dont want to grind all day for 1 million experience points and wait 6 hours for a group.

You mean you're not drinkin' the nostalgia kool-aid?!  C'mon man, everyone is doing it!!! 

  DancingQueen

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OP  7/15/13 4:51:14 PM#33

Based on 63 votes.

33.3% for Yes and 66.7% for No... interesting.

 

  hMJem

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7/15/13 5:05:41 PM#34

Why can't we wait for August 2nd for some polls like these?

 

I know people like to speculate, for a thread like this, all you had to do was wait a couple weeks. August 2nd we'll have an idea of if its the same old or actually changing the genre.

  DancingQueen

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OP  7/15/13 5:31:14 PM#35
Originally posted by hMJem

Why can't we wait for August 2nd for some polls like these?

 

I know people like to speculate, for a thread like this, all you had to do was wait a couple weeks. August 2nd we'll have an idea of if its the same old or actually changing the genre.

Ok no threads about EQN until 8/2 got it!

 

  DavisFlight

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7/15/13 5:35:04 PM#36
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

'So what do you older gamers think... will EQN bring back the golden days of online gaming?'

The hype is getting out of control for this game. By the way i thought GW2 was the 'one' to bring a golden era to online gaming?

No veteran MMORPG gamers believed that. Not with the hyper casual drop in focus on GW2. We thought the PvP may have been good, and that it'd kill the quest based leveling system... and the events are good, but the soft grouping mechanic has just resulted in everyone playing the game in the same zone but by themselves, without grouping or talking or interacting.

The PvP was also poorly thought out shitty attempt at DAoC glory.

  Ilaya

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7/15/13 5:44:09 PM#37

Voted "NO".

 

Honestly......

I think the "good old times" (speaking games) are gone. Fucking everything goes for fast Entertainment and our newest curse, F2P. There will be no change anymore. Even "IF" we get some interesting things like EQNext (perhaps!?!?!), Pathfinder Online and so forth, it will be just a matter of time until they get rid of that last challenges inside a game as soon as the Community cries loud enough. Also the RL Jobs we have now have changed so much. Nowadays some of us have even 3 Jobs to fullfill per day, means there is not enough time for another "Digital Job". It must be Entertainment which rewards you quickly in no time. Only then this Gaming Generation can have a deep sleep.

 

That, what we "Old ones" know as good, is gone. And it will be never coming back because the "Base" has changed. Can you imagine how many players a Game would have without a Map like DaoC back then? All the younglings would cry so loud because they have not learned these Systems. They would be like a Man without Arms or Legs. And this is just one tiny example.

 

These times are gone......if for the good, who knows. EQNext will not change that. It "might" come a bit closer to the old things but thats it. We will find out on August i think.

  Dullahan

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7/15/13 5:47:42 PM#38

Ya, I reserve my vote for after August 2nd.

Also, I would almost include vanilla WoW in the golden era.  It was actually better than most of the current MMOs at that time, and had a lot less of the features that destroyed the genre at the launch than it does now.  Obviously, that quickly changed.

Played EQ, UO, DAoC, AO, WoW, EQII, Vanguard, Ryzom, Darkfall, Warhammer, Rift, MO, Tera, DFUW, Age of Wushu, NW2, ESO and many others I don't remember or care to admit.
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  ReallyNow10

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7/15/13 5:52:25 PM#39
Yes, but I think early WOW was part of that era, although different than the games before.  I'd say the era ended with WOLTK, when they started implementing "phasing" and getting more linear.
  killion81

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7/15/13 8:43:08 PM#40
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

'So what do you older gamers think... will EQN bring back the golden days of online gaming?'

The hype is getting out of control for this game. By the way i thought GW2 was the 'one' to bring a golden era to online gaming?

 

Obviously GW2 did bring a golden era to online gaming.  If you're not enjoying the golden age, you must be doing it wrong! ;)

 

At least that's what I was told when I said that GW2 became boring way too quickly...

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