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  Marcus-

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Joined: 4/28/06
Posts: 973

7/14/13 3:26:21 PM#21
You don't have to read a manual or need a tutorial, and have almost no fear of dying.
  IridescentOrk

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Joined: 5/27/13
Posts: 160

7/14/13 3:26:25 PM#22
You are the hero.

gameplay > graphics

  Rydeson

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Joined: 3/05/07
Posts: 3921

7/15/13 5:00:00 AM#23
     That is easy for me.. I know it's doomed (in my eyes) when I see a breadcrumb trail the second I'm born..  I guess I can understand a tutorial phase, and I'm ok with that.. However, once you have an hour under your belt to understand the UI, I don't ever want to see breadcrumbs again..  It amazes me how many lazy people can't find targets to kill without some map feature holding their hand saying "GO HERE".... Really?  lol
  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6496

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

7/15/13 6:01:41 AM#24
Originally posted by Tierless

(FYI yes this just happened and the example of a bad game was always SWTOR)

Really? I would have assumed the Haters just moved on by now.

You have to admire the dedication?

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  azzamasin

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Joined: 6/06/12
Posts: 3075

We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

7/15/13 6:06:15 AM#25

When FFA PvP is one of their main selling points.

 

When Endgame revolves around running instances for loot.

 

When The combat is so bland and boring that people defend it by saying it gets better at "X" level.

 

When the game already failed once and people are enamored with it anyway.

 

When the game takes on the IP of a famous single player experience but yet doesn't offer any of the single player experiences that made it a fan favorite in the first place.

Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!

Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!

  Icewhite

Made History

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Posts: 6496

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

7/15/13 6:08:18 AM#26
Originally posted by Rydeson
It amazes me how many lazy people can't find targets to kill

Were that all anyone ever wanted from their games, that would certainly be easy.

A blank white field, spreading out to the horizon. Every few seconds, a spawn of mobs appears in your vicinity. It continues until you choose to log out. If you need to choose new skills or something, there's a dressing room you can step into (carebear combat-free) for a few moments.

Other players appear next to you. You can kill them, too.

It's so simple; why hasn't anyone marketed the Ultimate Lobby Game yet??

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Naowut

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Joined: 1/17/07
Posts: 668

7/15/13 6:08:46 AM#27
When 98% of you think it's a good game.
  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6496

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

7/15/13 6:16:18 AM#28
Originally posted by Naowut
When 98% of you think it's a good game.

I would be astonished if 10% of this crowd ever agreed on one game.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  arieste

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Posts: 3332

7/15/13 7:33:36 AM#29
"From the brilliant mind of Brad McQuaid..."

"I’d rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."

- Raph Koster

Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2
Currently Playing: EQ2, Firefall

  klagmire

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Joined: 6/26/13
Posts: 96

7/15/13 7:41:16 AM#30
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Tierless

(FYI yes this just happened and the example of a bad game was always SWTOR)

Really? I would have assumed the Haters just moved on by now.

You have to admire the dedication?

I will never move on, They cancelled a superior awsome MMO like SWG, to put out a console game like SWTOR. Yes I said console, because SwTOR is like riding on rails and the trainwreck is the engine.

Played:SWG(pre NGE/CU sucked)Yep its true, anyone who quit SWG because of the NGE/CU missed out on a much better combat system. DCUO, Fallen Earth, STO, The Secret World. Battlefield series. Planetside 2. Still playing SWG.

  Doogiehowser

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Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 1954

7/15/13 7:44:47 AM#31

When you read stuff like 'X MMO is going to kill WOW' or 'We are surely going to maintain 500K subscriber base after first month' and my personal favorite 'This MMO will never go FZP".

We all know how this ends up in couple of months.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney

  klagmire

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Joined: 6/26/13
Posts: 96

7/15/13 7:47:39 AM#32
When your progressing up the levels and everyone in the area looks the same. Same armor  and same weaopns.

Played:SWG(pre NGE/CU sucked)Yep its true, anyone who quit SWG because of the NGE/CU missed out on a much better combat system. DCUO, Fallen Earth, STO, The Secret World. Battlefield series. Planetside 2. Still playing SWG.

  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6496

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

7/15/13 8:06:13 AM#33
Originally posted by klagmire
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Tierless

(FYI yes this just happened and the example of a bad game was always SWTOR)

Really? I would have assumed the Haters just moved on by now.

You have to admire the dedication?

I will never move on, They cancelled a superior awsome MMO like SWG, to put out a console game like SWTOR. Yes I said console, because SwTOR is like riding on rails and the trainwreck is the engine.

LucasArts doesn't even exist any more. You're not even raging at the right people.

Well, don't let details stand in the way of good drama. Carry on.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Grixxitt

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Joined: 5/18/12
Posts: 558

7/15/13 8:10:22 AM#34

 

- You realize that you're proficiency as a player is a function of your character's gear

- You need to PvE in order to be viable in PvP (or vice versa)

- The devs tell you that you're gonna love it because it's going to be just like World of Warcraft, but better

- There's noone and nothing to fight against

The above is my personal opinion. Anyone displaying a view contrary to my opinion is obviously WRONG and should STHU. (neener neener)

-The MMO Forum Community

  LoverNoFighter

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Joined: 9/05/12
Posts: 334

SWG pre cu > all

7/15/13 8:31:30 AM#35
it contains the words ' Star Wars ' .
  ReallyNow10

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Joined: 8/11/10
Posts: 1976

Shared world, not personal storyline.

7/15/13 9:39:05 AM#36
Originally posted by Khorian
The developers say: "The story is gonna be awesome and revolves around YOU!"

QFT.  Nothing kills the excitement over an MMO to me more than the design company touting its creative writing team and how they are crafting stories (pre-destinies) for the players.

Now, given that, I'm all about lore, faction, and events, but have absolutely no use for artificial personal storylines.  Your story should be your gaming experience, but your gaming experience should not be a pre-crafted story.

  ReallyNow10

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/11/10
Posts: 1976

Shared world, not personal storyline.

7/15/13 9:40:16 AM#37
Originally posted by klagmire
When your progressing up the levels and everyone in the area looks the same. Same armor  and same weaopns.

That's also a sign of a game being too easy (i.e., everyone maxes out, has the same epic gear, etc...).

  jazz.be

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Joined: 8/26/06
Posts: 803

7/15/13 9:53:42 AM#38

When there are more haters than lovers.

It's simply true. Global opinion counts, AND it affects the game's health.

When Warhammer came out they didn't offer an official forum. Probably for this reason.

  TheLizardbones

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Posts: 10959

I think with my heart and move with my head.-Kongos

7/15/13 9:56:04 AM#39

When watching videos of the game turns out to be as exciting or more exciting than playing the game itself.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  Tygranir

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Joined: 6/24/13
Posts: 765

7/15/13 9:59:32 AM#40
An MMO is doomed when people are asking about endgame and the game in question is a sandbox...

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