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  free2play

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OP  7/12/13 7:18:28 AM#1

I know, I'm a freak, I can live with it but I never played this game. I got 20 in a trial account before the unlimited time on trials but that was long ago.

This game puts out content all the time but it still has what most in and out of the game would call a piss poor crafting system.

 

Why?

 

After this many years, Blizz never saw fit to polish the crafting system? No it's not going to bring in another 10 million people but I'd wager a revamp of crafting would bring back a few million and if done right, would make people like me look sideways.

What do they have to lose?

  NightBandit

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7/12/13 7:23:49 AM#2
Originally posted by free2play

I know, I'm a freak, I can live with it but I never played this game. I got 20 in a trial account before the unlimited time on trials but that was long ago.

This game puts out content all the time but it still has what most in and out of the game would call a piss poor crafting system.

 

Why?

 

After this many years, Blizz never saw fit to polish the crafting system? No it's not going to bring in another 10 million people but I'd wager a revamp of crafting would bring back a few million and if done right, would make people like me look sideways.

What do they have to lose?

Because as you put it, it's a piss poor game...I beta tested it and have never played it. I'm not sure why so many did pay to play it unless it was the PvP which attracted people to play it who knows. But it does not matter as like most developers they will screw ever ounce of money from the player base anyway they can and then either let it die or try flog it to some idiot.

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  Gdemami

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7/12/13 7:24:10 AM#3


Originally posted by free2play

What do they have to lose?

Development time aka money. No more no less.


There is no point making extensive crafting system or trying achieve scale of economy such as EVE has.

  free2play

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OP  7/12/13 7:35:49 AM#4

I've said before, EVE doesn't have crafting. It has manufacturing. It's not a slight to EVE. It works but isn't crafting.

 

If WoW added crafting materials to the loot table and a bunch of single use recipes, the point being, reinvent it in the game they could take what is seen as a weakness and make it another part of the game. I've never hated on WoW. I just never saw anything in it that would keep me there.

  maji

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7/12/13 7:37:00 AM#5

1) I think it's odd that someone, who says that he never played WoW, is able to judge the crafting system.

2) The game is a decade old, same as most mechanics of it.

3) I think the crafting system is ok. Some are worse, some are better (Fallen Earth, for example).

4) Overhauling the crafting system would be such a huge amount of work, that it simply ain't worth it. Never change a running system. People are used to it. Blizzard rather invests that workforce into other projects.

Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)

Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  Gdemami

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7/12/13 7:39:27 AM#6


Originally posted by free2play

I've said before, EVE doesn't have crafting. It has manufacturing. It's not a slight to EVE. It works but isn't crafting.

 

If WoW added crafting materials to the loot table and a bunch of single use recipes, the point being, reinvent it in the game they could take what is seen as a weakness and make it another part of the game. I've never hated on WoW. I just never saw anything in it that would keep me there.


I am puzzled...

  GeezerGamer

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7/12/13 7:52:02 AM#7
Originally posted by free2play

I know, I'm a freak, I can live with it but I never played this game. I got 20 in a trial account before the unlimited time on trials but that was long ago.

This game puts out content all the time but it still has what most in and out of the game would call a piss poor crafting system.

 

Why?

 

After this many years, Blizz never saw fit to polish the crafting system? No it's not going to bring in another 10 million people but I'd wager a revamp of crafting would bring back a few million and if done right, would make people like me look sideways.

What do they have to lose?

Based on the context of your post, I can only suggest one thing.

I believe Final Fantasy 14 has an open beta weekend coming soon. You might wish to look into it. I've been playing in Beta and it's truly a fun game to play it's well done. But the crafting system is actually one of the game's premier systems and takes no back seat to anything.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  StarI

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7/12/13 7:57:01 AM#8
Well you missed out on a good game; Than again you probably played at least one of the thousand clones.
  Rusque

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7/12/13 7:59:37 AM#9

Depends on game design doesn't it?

 

If you want a crafting centric game, you need to have robust crafting.

If you want a loot centric game, you need to have a robust dungeon and raid system. This is the road that WoW took, it's based around looting, crafting is generally used as an intermediary to fill gaps while leveling or for a few individualized bonuses. But they don't want crafting to compete with loot.

 

If EVE didn't have crafting (of manufacturing as that one guy wanted to call it) then it wouldn't have much. No crafting means little need for resources (mining) no resource hunting means fewer people out pvping for control over said resources. Kinda kills the game as it isn't really loot based.

Different games, different systems. Both have positives, both have negatives. Play what you like.

  nerovipus32

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7/12/13 8:08:24 AM#10
All blizzard do is throw out a raid and new daileys every couple of months to keep people chasing that carrot. Blizzard do the least  amount of work possible and they reap huge sums of money for it.
  Theocritus

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7/12/13 8:10:25 AM#11
WoW is an important part of MMO history....IMO it really changed the genre more than any other game....Now that doesn't mean it was a good thing.......If you played MMOs before WoW came out you would know what I mean.....Since WoW came on the scene the genre has taken a dramatic turn and not for the better for most of us.....
  GeezerGamer

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7/12/13 8:16:41 AM#12
Originally posted by Theocritus
WoW is an important part of MMO history....IMO it really changed the genre more than any other game....Now that doesn't mean it was a good thing.......If you played MMOs before WoW came out you would know what I mean.....Since WoW came on the scene the genre has taken a dramatic turn and not for the better for most of us.....

I agree. If only Blizzard could see that is was a certain design formula that brought in millions of players and when they strayed, they started losing them. Currently there are many MMOs that are styled after WoW, but none after WoW's Vanilla formula.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Muke

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7/12/13 8:21:09 AM#13
Originally posted by Rusque

 

If EVE didn't have crafting (of manufacturing as that one guy wanted to call it) then it wouldn't have much. No crafting means little need for resources (mining) no resource hunting means fewer people out pvping for control over said resources. Kinda kills the game as it isn't really loot based.

 

That's why EVE= sandbox and Wow= themepark.

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  Kyleran

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7/12/13 8:43:09 AM#14

I just read a thread discussing the good (?) crafting Age of Wushu has, F2P, perhaps you could check it out.

Blizzard managed to maintain a staggering number of subscribers over 8+ years, what real incentive did they have to improve their game with features such as more in-depth crafting, personal housing, or even adding some alternate rules servers or more meaningful PVP?

The changes they did make seemed to please their target audience and kept the money rolling in, so they certainly did it "right", even if the game never became what you or I might have wanted it to be.

But if you never really played it, you should have given it a try, it was a worthwhile 18 months for me, but that was a very long time ago, the current version might not hold the same appeal.

 

 

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  free2play

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OP  7/12/13 4:35:55 PM#15
Originally posted by Theocritus
WoW is an important part of MMO history....IMO it really changed the genre more than any other game....Now that doesn't mean it was a good thing.......If you played MMOs before WoW came out you would know what I mean.....Since WoW came on the scene the genre has taken a dramatic turn and not for the better for most of us.....

I agree, WoW is a key player in MMO growth and I applaud them on their success. I don't hate on WoW. I don't see the need. I just never really figured out why they wouldn't have something like crafting in their game that was as immersive as the other content.

FF14 Legacy member: for a mention on it. It was a good system in 1.00 as far as role. ARR is yet to be determined.

EVE Manufacturing: That was me also. Played EVE for 8 years. I understand the system and it works but it isn't crafting.

Age of Wushu was mentioned: Tried it. Time stamps all over the place. Installed, uninstalled. It hust didn't keep my attention.

Saying it's too much work isn't for me to say. It's content for their game. Blizz can decide that.

 

Anyway, not that WoW really needs a boost but it seemed out of place they wouldn't grab that group of players some how too. As I said, I never saw the need to be a WoW hater. Maybe Blizz is happy with where WoW is. But it's in Suggestions where it belongs.

  NightBandit

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8/05/13 9:34:28 AM#16
Originally posted by StarI
Well you missed out on a good game; Than again you probably played at least one of the thousand clones.

Beg to differ, Wow was a clone of other games prior to it's release, all it's done is reduced the graphic to make it useable on most computers and made it an easy to play theme park game for anyone from a very young age to pensioners with limited intellect. Then once they had a captured audience kept dropping content like all MMO's do to leech all it can from it's players.

If you look deeper and avoid the hype the game had like any other you see the floors very early on but like them all people choose to ignore them as they were having fun. Bad customer service and other things have effected this game being the worlds longest cash cow as people see the floors. Even the investors have been trying to get rid of it seeing it as a dying model.

Now if I owned it I may have done the same as they have, as I'd be in it to make profit so you cannot blame the company for what they have or will do to get what they can from their customers. As for Wow being a good game that comes down to each and every person who play it and it appears you had fun in it which is all that counts.

But again I beg to differ, I feel it has done little if not made other companies go down a similar avenue which has prevented other developers from trying new things quicker as they all tired to take the mantle from Blizzard. The three things which made this game successful was the ease at which people could PvP and the second was that it was very easy to play you did not need to think about what you did as it was so simple. Thirdly death in the game was like many others meaningless and very short.

This is what has ruined MMO's people want instant gratification all the time and little or no challenge it's all about getting to the end game rather than the journey getting there. it also created elitist action by preventing people in guilds from raiding because you did not have a clue what you were doing which IMHO detracts what made games like EQ1 stand out in the community.

The one thing Wow fans are scared of is change because they don't want a challenge, they are unable to look forward and always look back claiming x, y, z ect. An example of this if you look at many of the trolling going on with EQN many of these are stout Wow fans trying to protect their game and making mad claims. It's a real shame that they wont give other potential games a chance because they too could learn to contribute and while it's great to see loyal fans the Wow crowd have become very obsessed and are in denial about their old game becoming long in the tooth and needing so major changes to keep it in the number one slot.

I believe you will see many Wow fans wake up and smell the coffee and leave the game in the next 12 month or so once they see major titles with evolving ideas come to fruition and I feel games like TESO, Archage and EQN will have that special calibre to pull them fans away for good.

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