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  Tierless

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OP  7/11/13 9:59:43 AM#1

Every time I try to plan another MMO, if it doesn't have some sort of dodge or movement it just feels slow, old, and boring! Even FPS's feel less exciting. I didn't realize it was because of GW2 right away. Rather I kept thinking, why does this feel to dead, so slow? Then I instinctively tried to dodge once and it hit me, GW2!

GW2 has many things I would like to change, but I have grown very fond of that combat.

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  grenseal

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7/11/13 10:10:01 AM#2
Try Tera Online - it will ruin gw2 combat for u :)
  Kuppa

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7/11/13 10:10:19 AM#3
I am going to play ff XIV but I run into this a lot myself.


  Mardukk

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7/11/13 10:12:43 AM#4
Originally posted by grenseal
Try Tera Online - it will ruin gw2 combat for u :)

GW2 ruined me for combat as well.  I play a certain MMO, that is coming out this year, and I'm bored to tears.  Tera, with it's constant self rooting, was maddening.  I ran back to slow tab target happily after playing Tera.

  QSatu

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7/11/13 10:14:06 AM#5
Originally posted by grenseal
Try Tera Online - it will ruin gw2 combat for u :)

it depends. After gW2 I hated the constant rooting of my character to use a skill.

  Havekk

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7/11/13 10:19:49 AM#6
Originally posted by Tierless

Every time I try to plan another MMO, if it doesn't have some sort of dodge or movement it just feels slow, old, and boring! Even FPS's feel less exciting. I didn't realize it was because of GW2 right away. Rather I kept thinking, why does this feel to dead, so slow? Then I instinctively tried to dodge once and it hit me, GW2!

GW2 has many things I would like to change, but I have grown very fond of that combat.

I am on the other side of the fence. To me, all of the dodging looks absolutely ridiculous. I'm am very into the "look" of combat as much as the feel. Why I think Gw2 is a amazingly STUNNING game in terms of the visuals, all of the constant dodging kills me. I fought something a week or so ago when I finally logged back and and there were about 8 or 9 people there just rolling all over the fucking place. It really hurt the feel for me and the look of combat as it looked like a group of acrobats fighting at the circus...

  Sovrath

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7/11/13 10:22:40 AM#7
Originally posted by Praetalus
Originally posted by Tierless

Every time I try to plan another MMO, if it doesn't have some sort of dodge or movement it just feels slow, old, and boring! Even FPS's feel less exciting. I didn't realize it was because of GW2 right away. Rather I kept thinking, why does this feel to dead, so slow? Then I instinctively tried to dodge once and it hit me, GW2!

GW2 has many things I would like to change, but I have grown very fond of that combat.

I am on the other side of the fence. To me, all of the dodging looks absolutely ridiculous. I'm am very into the "look" of combat as much as the feel. Why I think Gw2 is a amazingly STUNNING game in terms of the visuals, all of the constant dodging kills me. I fought something a week or so ago when I finally logged back and and there were about 8 or 9 people there just rolling all over the fucking place. It really hurt the feel for me and the look of combat as it looked like a group of acrobats fighting at the circus...

I"m kind of with you. I don't mind some classes to be "dodgy rolley" but when everyone is rolling and flipping it just seems silly.

  botrytis

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7/11/13 10:22:54 AM#8
Originally posted by grenseal
Try Tera Online - it will ruin gw2 combat for u :)

Not really - the plant and use skill in TERA is very annoying.

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  bcbully

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7/11/13 10:23:38 AM#9
Originally posted by grenseal
Try Tera Online - it will ruin gw2 combat for u :)

Wushu did it for me. If I can't double and triple jump, sprint, dash, and control my movement when doing this, I feel like I'm glued to the ground.

 

oh and being able to scale walls... omg not being able to in other games is so 

  User Deleted
7/11/13 10:25:11 AM#10
Street Fighter Alpha ruined combat for me, i can't even hadouken mobs around me :(
  Torvaldr

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7/11/13 10:50:41 AM#11
Originally posted by Praetalus
Originally posted by Tierless

Every time I try to plan another MMO, if it doesn't have some sort of dodge or movement it just feels slow, old, and boring! Even FPS's feel less exciting. I didn't realize it was because of GW2 right away. Rather I kept thinking, why does this feel to dead, so slow? Then I instinctively tried to dodge once and it hit me, GW2!

GW2 has many things I would like to change, but I have grown very fond of that combat.

I am on the other side of the fence. To me, all of the dodging looks absolutely ridiculous. I'm am very into the "look" of combat as much as the feel. Why I think Gw2 is a amazingly STUNNING game in terms of the visuals, all of the constant dodging kills me. I fought something a week or so ago when I finally logged back and and there were about 8 or 9 people there just rolling all over the fucking place. It really hurt the feel for me and the look of combat as it looked like a group of acrobats fighting at the circus...

The excessive rolling around can look silly, but to me, not any sillier than just standing in place rotating through skills "dodging" because the rng engine said so.  I mean my rogue in the tab-target games just stands there and doesn't need to move.  Yeah, I can move around and do so now by habit from my other games, but it's all just show.  It doesn't matter if I move or not.  That's silly.

GW2 and TSW combat are a lot of fun, but my favorites, so far, are Tera and Neverwinter with GW2 and TSW close behind.  I still love Rift, but the tab target rng style combat is so very static and it feels lackluster by comparison.

What is "ruined" for me is that I can only really stand to play one game with that style of combat.  So I play Rift, and that pretty much sidelines EQ2, LotRO, and most any other classic tab-targeted rng combat based game.

Curse you AquaScum!

  arobi

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7/11/13 10:53:54 AM#12
I can't stand how tera roots you for certain skills. I love gw combat definetly has ruined my experience when going back to some older mmo's. swtor, tsw and rift i just could not get into again among others.
  Rusque

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7/11/13 10:54:42 AM#13
Originally posted by grenseal
Try Tera Online - it will ruin gw2 combat for u :)

Tera has abysmal combat, I can't wrap my mind around why people like it so much.

I can understand why people like traditional tab target combat.

I can understand why people like GW2 tab+free form combat.

I can understand why people like rhythmic based action combat like Vindictus.

I can understand why people like turn based combat.

I can understand why people like full action combat like Devil May Cry.

 

But I can't, at all, for the life of me, understand why people keep saying Tera has good combat. It's terrible. It's bad and should feel bad.

  Zadawn

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7/11/13 10:57:45 AM#14
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by grenseal
Try Tera Online - it will ruin gw2 combat for u :)

Tera has abysmal combat, I can't wrap my mind around why people like it so much.

I can understand why people like traditional tab target combat.

I can understand why people like GW2 tab+free form combat.

I can understand why people like rhythmic based action combat like Vindictus.

I can understand why people like turn based combat.

I can understand why people like full action combat like Devil May Cry.

 

But I can't, at all, for the life of me, understand why people keep saying Tera has good combat. It's terrible. It's bad and should feel bad.

You suck, and with this statement im as original as you are.

  flizzer

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7/11/13 10:59:04 AM#15

I have to agree with feeling the combat in Tera is abysmal.  

But I am so loving GW2 combat even if it means rolling around. LOTRO has been a game I have played and loved for years.  In fact, there are many things about the game I still love. Combat, however, is not one of them and playing LOTRO today is painful for me. 

  Xssiv

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7/11/13 10:59:51 AM#16
Being able to run while casting in GW2 makes it very difficult for me to play casters in other MMO's.  
  Randayn

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7/11/13 11:06:08 AM#17

First, rolling and casting while in movement is also possible in TSW.  I also think TSW implements the roll mechanic  alot better than GW2.

also, Im sick and tired of action combat in MMORPG's.  Call the games MMOAG's or something.  I've been playing the FFXIV beta and the game is amazingly good.  The combat has an old school flair to it that I've missed over the years.

  stayBlind

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7/11/13 11:06:12 AM#18

The rooting of Tera is part of the reason why I find the combat system better than GW2.

That and the fact that certain classes have dodge, others have block, and others have get away skills is so much cooler than everyone just having dodge (lol full plate mail dodge? why?)

Playing a High Elf Slayer makes me feel like I'm playing a High Elf Swordmaster from Warhammer. :)

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  SnarlingWolf

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7/11/13 11:10:35 AM#19

I didn't find GW2 combat all that amazing. Then again AC was one of my early MMOs and you could move out of the way of projectiles and slide around while casting.

 

Seeing constant rolling/flipping dodges does get just plain ridiculous. And to the person who said it looked less silly that standing in place fighting, really? Having a full set of amazingly heavy platemail on and standing in place seems sillier to you then rolling all over the place?

 

I think games need a good solid mix of movable and non-movable combat. Kiting becomes way too ridiculous when you can use all of your ranged abilities while running (that was how I handled most things in GW2, I just never stopped moving while damaging things). It also hurts melee classes a lot because why be one when you get far more protection from staying at a distance while running and shooting/casting. Instead they need to have low damage simple spells/shots while moving and significant spells/shots requiring a stand still. Go ahead and try running around with a powerful bow in the real world and see how many shots you can get off that go at all where you want them to.

 

  Tierless

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OP  7/11/13 11:23:45 AM#20


Originally posted by Xssiv
Being able to run while casting in GW2 makes it very difficult for me to play casters in other MMO's.  

After going Dagger Mage I can't imagine casting any other way.

All of the rolling is silly, but I find it equally as silly to stand in one place while a mob beats on you.

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