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Firefall 

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  Adalwulff

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7/10/13 11:35:08 PM#21

I've been playing Firefall for 2 days now, and I can honestly say the OP is full of shit

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  rojo6934

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

7/10/13 11:42:36 PM#22

OP

Instead of trying to make people walk away from a game because you dont like it, why not make a post recommending a game you like?

"in peace, in sleep under the barren, abandoned soil"

  ozmono

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7/10/13 11:47:07 PM#23
His entitled to his opinions and he detailed them. Some people here have made personal attacks against him or just called him full of shit and so on without even addressing what he is talking about. Not all but a few. It's disgusting. Oh and just because it's a free to play game doesn't mean it should be exempt from criticism, they still want your money for this product. I don't know if his points are accurate but many of the responses so far are below the belt.
  apb2011

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7/10/13 11:51:15 PM#24

I love this game.

There was a game like this, same type of mountain landscapes and rocks, same type of cartoony graphics, and the characters even had jetpacks. It was also MMOFPS but in alpha stage. I think the game got cancelled. I remembered playing it back in 2006-07. I forgot what it was called, im gonna check the gamelist to see if its there.

Or it could have been a dream I had in the past of me playing this game now, you know like a prophetic dream.

Anyway love Firefall.

  bbethel

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7/10/13 11:52:39 PM#25

I did not even know about this game. After skimming you post becouse its a wall of text. I found some of the thinks you complained about to be things that i want in my mmo. So I went to the web site and am currently downloading this game. 

Thanks OP

I would have never given this game a chance, but you have changed my mind thank you.

  rojo6934

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

7/10/13 11:54:05 PM#26
Originally posted by ozmono
His entitled to his opinions and he detailed them.

he lost me at the title. Opinions are not the same as -> please oh pleasa please please dont play this game please please oh Puhleeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!

"in peace, in sleep under the barren, abandoned soil"

  Shadowguy64

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7/10/13 11:55:48 PM#27
Originally posted by Salahudin
is this a hater or a marketing genius?

 

Pretty sure it's marketing. He complains about things that people WANT. It's pretty obvious what's going on here. And it seems to be working. 

  Slampig

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7/10/13 11:59:28 PM#28

Number 7 really made me laugh.

 

Anyway...

 

And I also REALLY liked the open non-contentious way he started the post. Although I didn't know "fanbois" was a word, I thought that was just poor grammar...

That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  ozmono

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7/11/13 12:01:40 AM#29
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Salahudin
is this a hater or a marketing genius?

 

Pretty sure it's marketing. He complains about things that people WANT. It's pretty obvious what's going on here. And it seems to be working. 

Not sure who needs to read the post again, you or me?

 

There is a bit of both in there, complex crafting and so on but than he talks about alot of other things that don't exactly show the game in a positive light.

 

People for the most part seem all to eager to overlook the bad and focus on the positive though but the game is new and that's the current trend. Not sure if it was the intention of the poster or people are just desperate.

  ego13

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Hell is other people. - Sartre

7/11/13 12:09:07 AM#30
Originally posted by ozmono
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Salahudin
is this a hater or a marketing genius?

 

Pretty sure it's marketing. He complains about things that people WANT. It's pretty obvious what's going on here. And it seems to be working. 

Not sure who needs to read the post again, you or me?

 

There is a bit of both in there, complex crafting and so on but than he talks about alot of other things that don't exactly show the game in a positive light.

 

People for the most part seem all to eager to overlook the bad and focus on the positive though but the game is new and that's the current trend. Not sure if it was the intention of the poster or people are just desperate.

   If you've played the game longer than the "Open Beta" time then you realize there's no need to refute ANY of his negatives as they are either completely false or extremely exaggerated.

Just because every car has similar features doesn't mean that Ferraris are copies of Model Ts. Progress requires failure and refining.

  Jadedangel1

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7/11/13 12:14:57 AM#31
I like the game, I think its fun, but I have to admit, the OP is not wrong. A lot of the design decisions about this game system really has me scratching my head. Why everything in game is tied to the SIN (in game network) I will never know. When it breaks, half the game breaks with it, and its the same when it comes to lag. Its not unheard of for your inventory to take over 5 minutes to load. Don't rely on chat as its equally likely to be down multiple times per day.
  ego13

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7/11/13 12:17:54 AM#32
Originally posted by Jadedangel1
I like the game, I think its fun, but I have to admit, the OP is not wrong. A lot of the design decisions about this game system really has me scratching my head. Why everything in game is tied to the SIN (in game network) I will never know. When it breaks, half the game breaks with it, and its the same when it comes to lag. Its not unheard of for your inventory to take over 5 minutes to load. Don't rely on chat as its equally likely to be down multiple times per day.

 

  Personally I have played quite a bit and have almost every frame unlocked, I have seen what you're referring to but it's NEVER impeded me.

 

Inventory...it's fairly useless and has worked all 5 times I've ever needed it.

 

Chat....again fairly useless.

 

I do hope they make it more challenging, personally.

Just because every car has similar features doesn't mean that Ferraris are copies of Model Ts. Progress requires failure and refining.

  flizzer

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7/11/13 12:20:48 AM#33
Like many others in this thread, I have started becoming interested in this game after reading OP.  At first this game held zero interest for me , but now....I don't know.  I can't decide if that post was genuine or meant sarcastically.
  Jadedangel1

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7/11/13 12:21:55 AM#34
Originally posted by Cirin
Originally posted by ozmono
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Salahudin
is this a hater or a marketing genius?

 

Pretty sure it's marketing. He complains about things that people WANT. It's pretty obvious what's going on here. And it seems to be working. 

Not sure who needs to read the post again, you or me?

 

There is a bit of both in there, complex crafting and so on but than he talks about alot of other things that don't exactly show the game in a positive light.

 

People for the most part seem all to eager to overlook the bad and focus on the positive though but the game is new and that's the current trend. Not sure if it was the intention of the poster or people are just desperate.

   If you've played the game longer than the "Open Beta" time then you realize there's no need to refute ANY of his negatives as they are either completely false or extremely exaggerated.

I'm not saying the OP is 100% correct. However, Its hard to find, but even on Firefall's forums you will find Founders who quietly admit to some of these issues. The fan boys try to cover it up with the usual "the devs are working hard, give them a chance" and such. But even occasionally a dev will come on the forums and admit a few of the "issues".

Like I said in my other post, I like the game and think its fun, but I'm also not going to sit here and basically call someone a liar for saying something negative about what I like. How are games ever going to change for the better if no one will admit there's a problem? This is a problem with a lot games these days due to their fans preferring to turn a blind eye rather than facing facts. I'm starting to think that MMOs need their own 12 step program.

  Saur0n

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Posts: 69

7/11/13 12:22:18 AM#35
It just went in to open beta...If you think "Open Beta" means that  you get a headstart on a finished game you need to re-learn your terminology.  The OPs original post shows the real difference between pre-wow and post-wow "mmorpg" players...
  someforumguy

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Joined: 1/25/07
Posts: 3449

7/11/13 12:23:45 AM#36

Funny, the OP's post makes me want to try Firefall. Especially the complex crafting bit.

But there are a few things I am curious about though. How much you need to grind for resources to craft is one thing. And if there are so many different resource types, I wonder how restrictive they are going to make the inventory. Small inventory is one of my main petpeeves in MMO's. I really hate having to run back to town every minute because my inventory is full. That makes me stop playing very fast.

  ozmono

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7/11/13 12:25:54 AM#37
Originally posted by Cirin
Originally posted by ozmono
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Salahudin
is this a hater or a marketing genius?

 

Pretty sure it's marketing. He complains about things that people WANT. It's pretty obvious what's going on here. And it seems to be working. 

Not sure who needs to read the post again, you or me?

 

There is a bit of both in there, complex crafting and so on but than he talks about alot of other things that don't exactly show the game in a positive light.

 

People for the most part seem all to eager to overlook the bad and focus on the positive though but the game is new and that's the current trend. Not sure if it was the intention of the poster or people are just desperate.

   If you've played the game longer than the "Open Beta" time then you realize there's no need to refute ANY of his negatives as they are either completely false or extremely exaggerated.

You have it wrong. It is truths that don't need refuting. It's fallacy and misleading comments that need to be refuted if you are to have a discussion which seeks to obtain truth. I don't know if the OP has it right or wrong but I do see overly defensive people ignoring his points and choosing to only comment that they like certain things which he does not.

 

In that regard it's no different to the hyped up people who flock to most big games upon their launch. Now that said people also go to the other extremes in these situation and that may be the case here but for the most part people aren't doing a good job of addressing what he is saying beyond reinforcing the positives, attacking him personally and ignoring the negatives.

  KhinRunite

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7/11/13 12:26:16 AM#38
Originally posted by Jadedangel1
Originally posted by Cirin
Originally posted by ozmono
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Salahudin
is this a hater or a marketing genius?

 

Pretty sure it's marketing. He complains about things that people WANT. It's pretty obvious what's going on here. And it seems to be working. 

Not sure who needs to read the post again, you or me?

 

There is a bit of both in there, complex crafting and so on but than he talks about alot of other things that don't exactly show the game in a positive light.

 

People for the most part seem all to eager to overlook the bad and focus on the positive though but the game is new and that's the current trend. Not sure if it was the intention of the poster or people are just desperate.

   If you've played the game longer than the "Open Beta" time then you realize there's no need to refute ANY of his negatives as they are either completely false or extremely exaggerated.

Really? Is that so? Now who's being false here? Its hard to find, but even on Firefall's forums you fill find Founders who quietly admit to these issues. The fan boys try to cover it up with the usual "the devs are working hard, give them a chance" and such.

Issues or none, shouldn't they be given a chance? This is Beta after all. A lot of the technical problems the OP mentioned were related to lag, which can only be caught by increasing load.

PS. I haven't touched the game. Just a neutral guy passing by.

  flizzer

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7/11/13 12:26:42 AM#39
The one big turn off for me is the limited world size.  What happened to large MMO worlds.  Yes, I understand we are in open beta but still.......
  caremuchless

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7/11/13 12:28:02 AM#40
Originally posted by ozmono
His entitled to his opinions and he detailed them. Some people here have made personal attacks against him or just called him full of shit and so on without even addressing what he is talking about. Not all but a few. It's disgusting. Oh and just because it's a free to play game doesn't mean it should be exempt from criticism, they still want your money for this product. I don't know if his points are accurate but many of the responses so far are below the belt.

I strongly agree. At least he detailed his reasons for not liking the game. For the most part they were valid concerns and complaints. 

 

I think it wouldn't of mattered what he wrote in his post, half the people didn't read the post and admitted as much.

 

The title brought the hatorade.

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