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  Scalpless

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OP  7/08/13 8:19:55 AM#1

So, I participated in the last beta and leveled up to level 10-ish. I was quite impressed by the game's polish, attention to detail, decent quest dialogue and the variety of activities you can participate in to get experience. What I wasn't impressed by at all was combat. Not because it was bad mechanically, but because I (an Archer) could win by pressing practically any buttons in any order or just spamming my first skill.

Now, I know MMOs are usually quite easy at first, but in the last two themeparks I played - GW2 and TSW - it was at least possible to lose a battle without acting like a complete idiot even during the first few hours of the game. It seems almost impossible in FF14. This is made worse by the fact that most mobs in my starter area weren't aggressive, so I was always at an advantage while initiating combat. I participated in some FATEs and they were slightly more challenging, but I never really had to worry about dieing in them, either, even though some were a level or two above my level.

Slow and tactical combat is my favorite, but it's only good when you have to use some tactics. When you don't, it's even more boring than easy action combat. So, when does this game's difficulty rise consistently? I've read even the first few dungeons pose no real challenge and have absolutely no desire to play for dozens of hours just to get to the "good stuff".

  Neutor

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7/08/13 8:22:46 AM#2
After level 15 it picks up some but I noticed the biggest jump after level 20 with the first road block being Ifrit.  Nice mechanics for a low level boss

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  VanadromArda

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7/08/13 8:25:17 AM#3

The game begins to show you some of the more interesting challenged by Level 15 and continues to do so through Level 20 in this stage of Beta. Copperbell Mines is the first instance of things starting to get difficult, but for most vets of MMOs the experience isn't too big of a threat and a good party can adapt on the fly; however, the challenge may come if you're grouped up with complete idiots -- and they do exist.

There were even people who found Baby Ifrit difficult. Many vets call him Baby Ifrit because well, he only employs two tactics really.. it's nothing compared to Ifrit Extreme which will come later at the game's release. Also difficulty options will be available for all Dungeons at release, allowing you to return to the content and ramp up the difficulty via the Duty Finder.

Furthermore, if you want a Solo-Challenge, you can ramp up the difficulty of Guildleves.

Later in the game's like they will allow you to duo Dungeons with Chocobos too.

  poopoopop

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7/08/13 8:26:36 AM#4
Having done everything in beta so far, its all as faceroll as the first dungeon.  There is no challenge at all.  1-50 in this game is just a tutorial, unfortunately.  Unless the endgame is the greatest thing on earth the NA population is going to die extremely fast.  If the JP audience turns on this game you can expect a swift transition to free to play.
  VanadromArda

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7/08/13 8:31:20 AM#5
Originally posted by poopoopop
Having done everything in beta so far, its all as faceroll as the first dungeon.  There is no challenge at all.  1-50 in this game is just a tutorial, unfortunately.  Unless the endgame is the greatest thing on earth the NA population is going to die extremely fast.  If the JP audience turns on this game you can expect a swift transition to free to play.

Gotta love troll posts. I recommend you ignore this comment via the "Block" option. I did.

  Neutor

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7/08/13 8:42:38 AM#6
Originally posted by poopoopop
Having done everything in beta so far, its all as faceroll as the first dungeon.  There is no challenge at all.  1-50 in this game is just a tutorial, unfortunately.  Unless the endgame is the greatest thing on earth the NA population is going to die extremely fast.  If the JP audience turns on this game you can expect a swift transition to free to play.

Loadstone link please

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  Rupskul

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7/08/13 8:50:07 AM#7

The first 15-20 levels is a tutorial for sure.  I got to level 23, did the first 3 intro dungeons, Haitatal (?) dungeon, and Ifrit.  Nothing was exceptionally hard, but I could see the difficulty level rising.  We had one wipe of all the fights I did.  Nothing was even close to FFXI, which is where I got my start, but if SE doesn't completely abandon it's roots, there will be some realy tough things ahead - bosses that could take months/years to get people geared up well enough to beat it.  At least I hope so. 

Honestly, nobody can say for sure at all right now - we just haven't seen enough content.  But I would expect it to be very good overall.

  Dfix

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7/08/13 8:50:38 AM#8

I have not personally tried any dungeon content 30+ but a few of my friends are legacy members. They tell me the hard mode stuff at 50 was very challenging content. Like I said, 35-50 not really sure though seeing all of it is new so nobody has done it.

 

I am excited to see some harder stuff though for sure. Right now it's all really easy.

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  xaus

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7/08/13 8:55:22 AM#9

Leveling from 1 to 50 isn't going to be hard, my experiences is only from 1.0 where i have two level 50 crafts, fishing 50 and almost all the combat jobs 50, Ifrit and the mog fight where a little hard, I have no idea if these fights will be in 2.0.  I'm hoping the bosses,NM,HNM will be as hard as the ones in FFXI just without the two days wait but i'm not holding my breath.

The game visually looks amazing and I'm looking forward to playing my Lalafell again.

  twrule

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7/08/13 9:13:58 AM#10
As a healer in the beta - everything available right now is pretty easy, though they begin introducing group content from about 20 on that requires at least some minimal effort at active group coordination. The stupidity of some pug groups notwithstanding, I didn't feel my healing legitimately taxed much until the last boss of the 5th dungeon (level 23ish I think?), and even then I was able to pull it off on my first attempt. It's also worth noting that I may have been missing a key healing ability in that dungeon run I mentioned, because the class quest to unlock it was omitted from the beta; perhaps that would have relieved some of that pressure too. Still, the difficulty climb has been slow but steady; I'm looking forward to group content that will pressure me a bit more once I get the chance to progress a bit further.
  Kayo45

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7/08/13 9:17:47 AM#11
Play a Thaumaturge and do the main story quest up to 15. Dont read any guides or anything >:)
  poopoopop

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7/08/13 9:21:40 AM#12
Originally posted by VanadromArda
Originally posted by poopoopop
Having done everything in beta so far, its all as faceroll as the first dungeon.  There is no challenge at all.  1-50 in this game is just a tutorial, unfortunately.  Unless the endgame is the greatest thing on earth the NA population is going to die extremely fast.  If the JP audience turns on this game you can expect a swift transition to free to play.

Gotta love troll posts. I recommend you ignore this comment via the "Block" option. I did.

Why am I trolling?  The content in beta, which makes up half of the leveling process, is brain dead easy.  Anybody who has played any mmo in the last 5 years and has a shred of common sense can figure out the fights within seconds. Granted, if you're a total noob to the genre it could be a bit harder to figure out the concepts. As most modern mmos go, the game doesnt start until 50.  

  Kayo45

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7/08/13 9:29:26 AM#13
[quote]my character was "Butt Savage"[/quote]
aand that explains it...
  User Deleted
7/08/13 9:30:00 AM#14
Originally posted by Kayo45
[quote]my character was "Butt Savage"[/quote]
aand that explains it...

 

Well it doesn't really, since it doesn't exist.
  poopoopop

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7/08/13 9:31:54 AM#15
Originally posted by Kayo45
[quote]my character was "Butt Savage"[/quote]
aand that explains it...

Because my name nullifies my opinion on how incredibly boring/easy it is so far?  You square enix defense drones try to downplay any negative feedback with a religious fervor. 

  Neutor

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7/08/13 9:33:01 AM#16
Originally posted by poopoopop
Originally posted by VanadromArda
Originally posted by poopoopop
Having done everything in beta so far, its all as faceroll as the first dungeon.  There is no challenge at all.  1-50 in this game is just a tutorial, unfortunately.  Unless the endgame is the greatest thing on earth the NA population is going to die extremely fast.  If the JP audience turns on this game you can expect a swift transition to free to play.

Gotta love troll posts. I recommend you ignore this comment via the "Block" option. I did.

Why am I trolling?  The content in beta, which makes up half of the leveling process, is brain dead easy.  Anybody who has played any mmo in the last 5 years and has a shred of common sense can figure out the fights within seconds. Granted, if you're a total noob to the genre it could be a bit harder to figure out the concepts. As most modern mmos go, the game doesnt start until 50.  It's a total snooze fest until then. And for the guy who asked for the loadstone link, I've never used the page before but my character was "Butt Savage"

The loadstone is like the wow armory...if you go to the beta forms it even has a link to it.  But yea, like the guy above me, I'm not finding that character in any search so nice try but you failed

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  poopoopop

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7/08/13 9:33:08 AM#17
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Kayo45
[quote]my character was "Butt Savage"[/quote]
aand that explains it...

 

Well it doesn't really, since it doesn't exist.

http://na.beta.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2706049/

  aesperus

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7/08/13 9:36:02 AM#18

Honestly, most of the game in beta atm is pretty easy (unfortunately). Including the dungeons.

Played a THM up to lvl 34, a CNJ to 24, and most of the other jobs between 15-20.

The most challenging content available atm comes from either:

- Certain solo story quests (i.e. the lvl 15 one, and part of the lvl 20 one)

- Certain FATE events (some of the FATEs are kinda challenging if you dont have enough / the right people there to complete  them. However, most of the time they are just a zergfest)

  poopoopop

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7/08/13 9:37:52 AM#19
Originally posted by aesperus

Honestly, most of the game in beta atm is pretty easy (unfortunately). Including the dungeons.

Played a THM up to lvl 34, a CNJ to 24, and most of the other jobs between 15-20.

The most challenging content available atm comes from either:

- Certain solo story quests (i.e. the lvl 15 one, and part of the lvl 20 one)

- Certain FATE events (some of the FATEs are kinda challenging if you dont have enough / the right people there to complete  them. However, most of the time they are just a zergfest)

HURRDURR LINK LODESTON OR UR TROLL, I DID ALL BETA AND IT WAS SSUPER HARD

 

oh and inb4 someone actually says "its just beta"

  Neutor

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7/08/13 9:40:23 AM#20
Originally posted by poopoopop
Originally posted by Kayo45
[quote]my character was "Butt Savage"[/quote]
aand that explains it...

Because my name nullifies my opinion on how incredibly boring/easy it is so far?  You square enix defense drones try to downplay any negative feedback with a religious fervor. 

I'm not down playing any negative feedback at all but there is no reason to lie about it.  If you haven't done it then you have no idea and obviously you haven't really done it

 

Edit:  so at least you have played but the highest job you have is only low 30's so again, you have not done everything in the beta

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