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General Discussion  » What is your favorite "innovation": from GW2 that you would like to see in upcoming titles?

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  Kilmar

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7/07/13 10:43:16 AM#21

Didn't like playing GW2 at all, but two things in GW2 I wish to see in more MMOs:

- more actionrich combat gameplay, like already seen in TSW,

- the simplicity of the auction house -> selling things automatically for the actually cheapest price was just great.

Things I really don't want to see in my MMOs:

- missing roles, biggest let down at all

  Zeus.CM

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7/07/13 11:05:29 AM#22
Dynamic Events instead of quest hubs!
  DavisFlight

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7/07/13 11:07:35 AM#23

The only real innovations is how far they pushed the event system. GW2 didn't go far enough with it of course. But that is pretty much the best and most unique feature of GW2.

Jump puzzles are NOT unique to GW2, but I'd like to see those in other games too.

  Thupli

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7/07/13 11:12:33 AM#24
Originally posted by bcbully

I don't want to see anything listed in the OP. I hated all 3 of those things.

 

If there was anything (thinking, 3mins so far) it would be their idea of an RE, not what was implemented, but the core Idea. I wish they would have took the extra time to make them dynamic, and not looping.

This just goes to show that not every game is for every person.

 

I think, OP, that you should have addressed this to people that play the game still.  MMORPG.com is full of people that hate Gw2 and will use any thread about it to let you know just how much they hate it and how worthless they think it is.  They really have nothing better to do because they dont have ANY games that they actually do like.

  Soki123

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7/07/13 11:16:12 AM#25
Originally posted by DMKano

None - didn't like any of GW2s "innovation", wasn't a fan - heart quests, scripted events, poor storyline, classes defined by weapons - ugh, jumping puzzles, vistas... no, square zone design, forced level scaling, rez repeatedly to win dungeon runs - no, narrow field of view why?, no zones with dense forests.... why? World vs World vs World - why are we fighting, for what purpose, why do fights rotate from a story perspective makes no sense.

Sorry if that came across as overly harsh, just voicing my dislikes in an unfiltered way.

Id say polish and graphics are the top 2 things, but that's not innovation.

Everything above is my opinion, your mileage may vary

 

Bingo, was the worst MMO experience I ve had in years. Nothing I can think of, I would like to see in any games I have interest in.

  Thupli

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7/07/13 11:16:47 AM#26

My favorite things are

1. Lack of Trinity

2. Scaling content

3. No gear grinding "tiers"

 

My biggest wishes for change:

1. More weapon skills to pick from, like utilities, but that is coming

2. This game should've not had levels.

  Rohn

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Joined: 7/02/08
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7/07/13 11:29:19 AM#27
Originally posted by DMKano

None - didn't like any of GW2s "innovation", wasn't a fan - heart quests, scripted events, poor storyline, classes defined by weapons - ugh, jumping puzzles, vistas... no, square zone design, forced level scaling, rez repeatedly to win dungeon runs - no, narrow field of view why?, no zones with dense forests.... why? World vs World vs World - why are we fighting, for what purpose, why do fights rotate from a story perspective makes no sense.

Sorry if that came across as overly harsh, just voicing my dislikes in an unfiltered way.

Id say polish and graphics are the top 2 things, but that's not innovation.

Everything above is my opinion, your mileage may vary

 

 

I agree completely with this assessment.  If anything, most of the "innovations" in GW2 are a continued dumbing down of the genre - we need less of them, not more.

Contrary to the OP, things like overusing fast travel and auction house from anywhere (mail from anywhere as well) make the game seem like less of a world, and more of a simplistic game.  Pointless PvP, like WvWvW, confined to specific zones just makes the world feel contrived and broken.

I'd prefer systems that make gameworlds actually feel like worlds.

Other than that, ANet proved that there ARE things worse than the trinity with their horrific group mechanics.  Don't need more of that, either.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  Torgrim

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7/07/13 1:07:45 PM#28
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  GeezerGamer

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7/07/13 2:57:05 PM#29
Originally posted by Torgrim
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

Seriously?

The OP asked :

"It doesn't necessarily have to be completely unique, but something that most MMOs simply don't have.

If you would your top three, please."

If the answer is "Nothing" then that's the answer. regardless of the reasons why it was the answer. It's still very much on topic.

A lot of people (myself included) gave GW2 credit where credit was due. But just because a mechanic works in one game doesn't mean we want to see it pasted into every MMO that's to follow.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  aesperus

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7/07/13 3:28:28 PM#30
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Torgrim
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

Seriously?

The OP asked :

"It doesn't necessarily have to be completely unique, but something that most MMOs simply don't have.

If you would your top three, please."

If the answer is "Nothing" then that's the answer. regardless of the reasons why it was the answer. It's still very much on topic.

A lot of people (myself included) gave GW2 credit where credit was due. But just because a mechanic works in one game doesn't mean we want to see it pasted into every MMO that's to follow.

Nothing, is an answer.

Nothing followed by 'GW2 is the most blatant piece of crap, blah blah' is basically trolling. He's not asking what people hated about the game or why. He's asking what people liked. If you didn't like anything, then why the hell are you even in the GW2 discussion threads in the first place!? Let alone, why do you feel the need to post a whole paragraph when you're answer is basically 'none'.

The game's been out for months, there are pleanty of threads both about how good the game is and how much it sucks. I find it interesting that some people still feel the need to jump into threads of a game they have (aparently) not enjoyed for months, and still bash it.

  GeezerGamer

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7/07/13 3:33:05 PM#31
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Torgrim
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

Seriously?

The OP asked :

"It doesn't necessarily have to be completely unique, but something that most MMOs simply don't have.

If you would your top three, please."

If the answer is "Nothing" then that's the answer. regardless of the reasons why it was the answer. It's still very much on topic.

A lot of people (myself included) gave GW2 credit where credit was due. But just because a mechanic works in one game doesn't mean we want to see it pasted into every MMO that's to follow.

Nothing, is an answer.

Nothing followed by 'GW2 is the most blatant piece of crap, blah blah' is basically trolling. He's not asking what people hated about the game or why. He's asking what people liked. If you didn't like anything, then why the hell are you even in the GW2 discussion threads in the first place!? Let alone, why do you feel the need to post a whole paragraph when you're answer is basically 'none'.

Because GW2 is it's own game. That's my opinion.

What is my favorite GW2 innovation I want to see in a new MMO? None.

That's what the thread asked, that's my opinion, I'm not a troll. I don't dislike GW2, and I have every reason to say I want my next MMO to take a different route.

It's also quite a different question than "What's your favorite GW2 innovation"? He didn't ask that. But then my answer would have been quite different.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Aeander

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Joined: 7/15/11
Posts: 240

7/07/13 3:38:33 PM#32
Lack of a trinity. Seriously, the trinity is a valid system and all and definitely has its place in games, but there should be more room for games that lack one. Currently, there is only Guild Wars 2, which is taking a shot in the dark, being the first one to attempt the system, and Dragon's Prophet which is a half-assed and rushed game in every aspect. Eventually, either Guild Wars 2 will perfect the system, or a new title would make it a real thing of beauty. 
  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1287

7/07/13 3:52:39 PM#33

1. Dynamic events: While I don't believe they need to replace quests completely, DEs make the world look more alive. I didn't like Hearts, however, so my ideal structure would probably be a few traditional quests +  DEs. Many other games have similar features, but GW2's DEs seem to be the most polished public quests at the moment, with lots of dialogue and nice, zone-wide meta events.

2. Level scaling: It makes more content relevant to your level.

3. Payment model: It's very non-obtrusive and seems to work well for ANet.

Still, I'd vastly prefer a polished game that does its own thing instead of copying GW2 or WoW.

Actually, a fourth feature just came to mind:

4. Newbie content that isn't completely brain-dead. You can actually die during the first five hours of GW2. These levels aren't particularly hard and I wish they were harder, but you CAN die even if you don't do something ridiculously stupid. I just played another MMO and its beginner content was so mind-numbingly easy it bored me to tears. MMOs shouldn't assume every player is a complete idiot who can't read and needs a thirty hours long tutorial to understand the basics of gameplay. Unfortunately, very few MMOs do and I refuse to play a game that gets good only after dozens of hours.

  Mardukk

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7/07/13 4:01:04 PM#34
Many of the DEs are quite impressive I definitely want to see more in the future. Also auto bank deposit and increased rare drops when you fight mobs that are higher level than you.
  aesperus

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7/07/13 4:10:30 PM#35
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Torgrim
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

Seriously?

The OP asked :

"It doesn't necessarily have to be completely unique, but something that most MMOs simply don't have.

If you would your top three, please."

If the answer is "Nothing" then that's the answer. regardless of the reasons why it was the answer. It's still very much on topic.

A lot of people (myself included) gave GW2 credit where credit was due. But just because a mechanic works in one game doesn't mean we want to see it pasted into every MMO that's to follow.

Nothing, is an answer.

Nothing followed by 'GW2 is the most blatant piece of crap, blah blah' is basically trolling. He's not asking what people hated about the game or why. He's asking what people liked. If you didn't like anything, then why the hell are you even in the GW2 discussion threads in the first place!? Let alone, why do you feel the need to post a whole paragraph when you're answer is basically 'none'.

Because GW2 is it's own game. That's my opinion.

What is my favorite GW2 innovation I want to see in a new MMO? None.

That's what the thread asked, that's my opinion, I'm not a troll. I don't dislike GW2, and I have every reason to say I want my next MMO to take a different route.

It's also quite a different question than "What's your favorite GW2 innovation"? He didn't ask that. But then my answer would have been quite different.

Then just say that.

Saying 'I don't think the innovations from GW2 would work as well in other games' is fine. However what I was commenting on were the majority of negative posts in this thread (from the usuals) which don't say that. I don't mind counter arguments, or valid opinions, but it's hard to deny that this game (GW2) has not had a relentless barrage of haters each and every time anyone tries to say anything positive about this game. And the game is now well passed the usual post-launch game bashing.

It would be nice if we could have at least one thread talking about the good points from this game, without people who (aparently) never play the game rushing in to dump all over it.

  Torgrim

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7/07/13 4:27:39 PM#36
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Torgrim
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

Seriously?

The OP asked :

"It doesn't necessarily have to be completely unique, but something that most MMOs simply don't have.

If you would your top three, please."

If the answer is "Nothing" then that's the answer. regardless of the reasons why it was the answer. It's still very much on topic.

A lot of people (myself included) gave GW2 credit where credit was due. But just because a mechanic works in one game doesn't mean we want to see it pasted into every MMO that's to follow.

 

Why don't you read some of the respons he got and then you might know what I mean.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  Torgrim

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Joined: 12/15/05
Posts: 2136

7/07/13 4:30:09 PM#37
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Torgrim
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

Seriously?

The OP asked :

"It doesn't necessarily have to be completely unique, but something that most MMOs simply don't have.

If you would your top three, please."

If the answer is "Nothing" then that's the answer. regardless of the reasons why it was the answer. It's still very much on topic.

A lot of people (myself included) gave GW2 credit where credit was due. But just because a mechanic works in one game doesn't mean we want to see it pasted into every MMO that's to follow.

Nothing, is an answer.

Nothing isn't an answer when he asked for a favorite, You can't hate a film and get a question what is the favorite scene in the movie you liked.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  aesperus

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 4739

7/07/13 4:34:33 PM#38
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Torgrim
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

Seriously?

The OP asked :

"It doesn't necessarily have to be completely unique, but something that most MMOs simply don't have.

If you would your top three, please."

If the answer is "Nothing" then that's the answer. regardless of the reasons why it was the answer. It's still very much on topic.

A lot of people (myself included) gave GW2 credit where credit was due. But just because a mechanic works in one game doesn't mean we want to see it pasted into every MMO that's to follow.

Nothing, is an answer.

Nothing isn't an answer when he asked for a favorite, You can't hate a film and get a question what is the favorite scene in the movie you liked.

Psst! I was agreed with you, while attempting to avoid (yet another) semantics argument on these forums.

  BrucyBonus

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7/07/13 4:37:52 PM#39

1.  A polished Product at release. 

2.  That is all.  

  Torgrim

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7/07/13 4:37:55 PM#40
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Torgrim
OP I have been there you are right now with a topic such as this, the selective few love to jump into a thread like this and dizz everything from top to toe usually the same trash they have spewed for months on end, just ignore them and discuss with those who acually can read the topic name and give a proper respons to your question.

Seriously?

The OP asked :

"It doesn't necessarily have to be completely unique, but something that most MMOs simply don't have.

If you would your top three, please."

If the answer is "Nothing" then that's the answer. regardless of the reasons why it was the answer. It's still very much on topic.

A lot of people (myself included) gave GW2 credit where credit was due. But just because a mechanic works in one game doesn't mean we want to see it pasted into every MMO that's to follow.

Nothing, is an answer.

Nothing isn't an answer when he asked for a favorite, You can't hate a film and get a question what is the favorite scene in the movie you liked.

Psst! I was agreed with you, while attempting to avoid (yet another) semantics argument on these forums.

 

Then I missed the que on that one. :/

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

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