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  Quizzical

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OP  6/30/13 9:34:31 PM#21
Originally posted by Shatter30
I don't expect to see huge performance gains or anything with this upgrade, small would be fine.  I hate SLI setups, Id rather have 1 card for a number of reasons and my 460's are coming up on 4 years old so it was time to move up a bit without breaking the bank.  Ive been pretty impressed with the two 460's, they've handled games very well but I knew going to a 650 or 660 was a waste of time that's why I wanted to get a 680 as my next upgrade only it was $500.  That's why the 760 fits pretty well I think, I get a small upgrade, knockout my SLI setup and instead of getting 1 card for $500 I can also get a new monitor :)

It's odd that your GTX 460s are so old when you consider that three years ago, the cards hadn't even launched.

Getting an extra monitor is definitely a worthy upgrade if you only have one.  And maybe even if you already have two.  Unless you don't have space on your desk for it, in which case, a new desk is also a worthy upgrade.

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OP  6/30/13 9:37:22 PM#22
Originally posted by Prophecys

760 is hardly any better then the 660 Ti and still below 580 andd 690 cards. 

not to mention Gtx 670 and 680 perform better then all those cards.

What's so bad about it hardly being any better than a GeForce GTX 660 Ti?  It's both better and cheaper.  Isn't that a good thing?  And a GeForce GTX 760 is definitely better than a GTX 580 in pretty much everything except for some GPU compute purposes, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.

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6/30/13 9:49:30 PM#23
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by Prophecys

760 is hardly any better then the 660 Ti and still below 580 andd 690 cards. 

not to mention Gtx 670 and 680 perform better then all those cards.

What's so bad about it hardly being any better than a GeForce GTX 660 Ti?  It's both better and cheaper.  Isn't that a good thing?  And a GeForce GTX 760 is definitely better than a GTX 580 in pretty much everything except for some GPU compute purposes, but I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Looking at Newegg the 670's are around $80 to $100 more and the 680's $170 - $200 more.  Do those two cards really deliver that much more to warrant the price difference?  That's sort of hard to answer I guess since the value for performance increase is subjective, but I wonder how much more you really get for that added cost?  The $250 starting price for 760 seems to be a pretty good deal especially if your memory theory is as pronounced as you expect.

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  Shatter30

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6/30/13 11:30:06 PM#24
Originally posted by Prophecys

760 is hardly any better then the 660 Ti and still below 580 andd 690 cards. 

not to mention Gtx 670 and 680 perform better then all those cards.

A 760 overclocked(which was what I bought) is quite a bit better then a 660Ti and the overclock brings it pretty close to a 770. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7103/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-review/17

 

Also, I don't think you can even buy a GTX 580 anymore(discontinued on Newegg) and a GTX 690 is like what...$1000+?   The GTX 760 is a very good price for a high quality card especially for anyone who's using a 400 series card or older. 

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7/02/13 2:24:06 PM#25

Sorry, I was wrong. My cousin has a 660 superclocked, but it isn't the Ti version. Not sure if that makes a difference. My other cousin is the one with the Ti, but he isn't upgrading any time soon.

 

How is the GTX 760 superclocked compared to the 660 superclocked that my cousin has? Or would it still be better for my Uncle to keep the upgrade?

 

Not sure the difference between all these version names. But I'm guessing Ti is better than not Ti.

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OP  7/02/13 8:22:16 PM#26
Originally posted by TheScavenger

Sorry, I was wrong. My cousin has a 660 superclocked, but it isn't the Ti version. Not sure if that makes a difference. My other cousin is the one with the Ti, but he isn't upgrading any time soon.

 

How is the GTX 760 superclocked compared to the 660 superclocked that my cousin has? Or would it still be better for my Uncle to keep the upgrade?

 

Not sure the difference between all these version names. But I'm guessing Ti is better than not Ti.

A GeForce GTX 660 non-TI is a little slower than the GTX 660 Ti but a lot cheaper, so it's far more likely that your cousin got a good value for the money when he bought it.  You could realistically expect a GTX 670 to be maybe 20%-30% faster than a GTX 660.  Whether that's enough to make it worth swapping cards out is a matter of opinion.

As for the names confusing you, that's intentional on Nvidia's part.  Ignore the marketing names and look at the specs.  The GTX 660 isn't listed in my original post as it's a different chip, but it's got 5 SMXes and 3 memory channels.

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7/02/13 8:25:07 PM#27
That all was spanish to me...

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OP  7/02/13 8:28:42 PM#28
Originally posted by bingbongbros
That all was spanish to me...

See if this helps:

http://translate.google.com/

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7/02/13 9:08:18 PM#29


Originally posted by bingbongbros
That all was spanish to me...

Google translate: nVidia Marketing -> English
Ti = little bit faster, lot more expensive.

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7/03/13 12:31:51 AM#30

I have decided to give this one a try:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127745

 

 

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  Shatter30

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7/03/13 5:38:18 PM#31
Well I finally got my 760 in, the overclocked version which has replaced my (2) 460's in SLI.  Did it make a difference?  Yep, definite improvement in 3 different games I play by easily 30%.  (2) of these games I used to play on high, now I'm at maxed setting with 0 stutter even with tons going on screen.  Also since I don't have SLI cards and just 1 now, the temp at load hasn't gone over 58C, with my SLI cards I used to see 70+ since one hot card was blowing on the other.  Was it worth the $250?  For sure.
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7/03/13 5:53:48 PM#32


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7/03/13 6:21:21 PM#33
Originally posted by sk8chalif

 all i have to say.

http://www.techpowerup.com/183936/geforce-gtx-680-can-be-flashed-to-gtx-770.html

Read the articles...not really.

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OP  7/03/13 6:54:19 PM#34
A GeForce GTX 770 is basically a GTX 680 clocked higher.  It's the same GPU chip, though the GTX 770 will probably use higher bin GDDR5 memory to be able to run it at a stock 1.75 GHz rather than 1.5 GHz like the GTX 680.
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7/03/13 7:11:18 PM#35
Originally posted by sk8chalif

 all i have to say.

http://www.techpowerup.com/183936/geforce-gtx-680-can-be-flashed-to-gtx-770.html

If it works great, but a 680 is a $450-$500 card.  A GTX 770 is $410 lol

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7/05/13 2:39:09 PM#36
Originally posted by Quizzical
A GeForce GTX 770 is basically a GTX 680 clocked higher.  It's the same GPU chip, though the GTX 770 will probably use higher bin GDDR5 memory to be able to run it at a stock 1.75 GHz rather than 1.5 GHz like the GTX 680.

How is the GTX 770? My uncle I think is going to go that route. It isn't that much more than a 760...but, (I haven't looked) my Uncle said the tech specs on it are far better. So, it sounds like for a bit more money...the 770 would be the way to go. There is of course the 780, but that is quite a bit more.

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7/06/13 3:39:39 AM#37

A friend of mine just got the GTX 760 and I'm waiting on his benchmarks. I think he's quite happy about the savings given that he was seconds away from grabbing the 7950.

All due to the fact that Quiz posted this up, thank you sir. I've gotta say, you have saved me a few $$ this year already.

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7/06/13 3:44:30 AM#38
 
 
Originally posted by Quizzical

How excited can you get about the sixth desktop bin of a GK104 die?  Well, that all depends on whether you're looking to buy a new video card for around $250.  Recall that Nvidia's GK104 chip has 8 SMXes and 4 memory channels, which left the video memory struggling to feed the GPU chip adequately.  So far, we've seen:

GeForce GTX 680:  8 SMXes, 4 memory channels active

GeForce GTX 670:  7 SMXes, 4 memory channels active

GeForce GTX 660 Ti:  7 SMXes, 3 memory channels active

GeForce GTX 660 (OEM-only version):  6 SMXes, 3 memory channels active

GeForce GTX 770:  8 SMXes, 4 memory channels active, clocked higher than GTX 680

GeForce GTX 760:  6 SMXes, 4 memory channels active

Whether a GTX 760 or GTX 660 Ti is faster depends on whether you're constrained more by memory bandwidth/ROPs or shader/TMU performance.  That the GTX 760 is faster in nearly all games pretty much confirms what we've long known:  a lot of Kepler cards were short on memory bandwidth.

The new GTX 760 beats the older GTX 660 Ti in just about all games, and often by a lot.  The GTX 660 Ti was never a good value for the money, but a faster GTX 760 that is now cheaper than it should hopefully end the constant Nvidia fanboy recommendations of the GTX 660 Ti.  For obvious reasons, the new GTX 760 is slower than the older GTX 670.

But the big deal is not just that the GTX 760 has launched, but that it costs $250.  For a long time now, if you went above a Radeon HD 7870 or GeForce GTX 660 at around $200, performance per dollar went way down.  Now we can extend that limit upward to a $250 GeForce GTX 760.

AMD has long owned the $250-$300 market, with the Radeon HD 7870 XT (Sapphire's version) or MYST (PowerColor's version) at $250 and the Radeon HD 7950 Boost at $300.  That ends today, with the GTX 760 clearly better than the former and arguably better than the latter, while clearly being cheaper than a 7950.

We'll see if AMD responds with price cuts as they did when the GTX 770 launched, but their ability to do so may be somewhat limited, as Tahiti cards (Radeon HD 7900 series) are more expensive to build than corresponding bins of GK104 cards.  Unlike the previous three generations when AMD had a huge cost of production over Nvidia, GK104 has the cost advantage over Tahiti.

I bought an evga 760 superclocked about 2 days after reading the nvidia article on it.  Was $260, upgraded from my GTX 570 and couldnt be happier.  Card runs way cooler.  I can sell the 570 used for 100-120 bucks and i got on average a 70% upgrade over my current card.  I may actually for the first time since the original Voodoo 2, SLI a second one here in 6 months assuming i get a tax return and obama doesnt take it from me.

 

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7/06/13 3:45:53 AM#39
Originally posted by TheScavenger
Originally posted by Quizzical
A GeForce GTX 770 is basically a GTX 680 clocked higher.  It's the same GPU chip, though the GTX 770 will probably use higher bin GDDR5 memory to be able to run it at a stock 1.75 GHz rather than 1.5 GHz like the GTX 680.

How is the GTX 770? My uncle I think is going to go that route. It isn't that much more than a 760...but, (I haven't looked) my Uncle said the tech specs on it are far better. So, it sounds like for a bit more money...the 770 would be the way to go. There is of course the 780, but that is quite a bit more.

I bounced around the idea myself.  770 is NOT worth it.  Its at best a 20% difference in speed over a 760 and its 400 dollars compared to 250.  If you were gonna spend 400 you'd be better off spending 500 and SLI'ing 2x 760's

 

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OP  7/06/13 6:18:55 AM#40
Originally posted by TheScavenger
Originally posted by Quizzical
A GeForce GTX 770 is basically a GTX 680 clocked higher.  It's the same GPU chip, though the GTX 770 will probably use higher bin GDDR5 memory to be able to run it at a stock 1.75 GHz rather than 1.5 GHz like the GTX 680.

How is the GTX 770? My uncle I think is going to go that route. It isn't that much more than a 760...but, (I haven't looked) my Uncle said the tech specs on it are far better. So, it sounds like for a bit more money...the 770 would be the way to go. There is of course the 780, but that is quite a bit more.

It's a difference of 8 SMXes versus 6, and 1.75 GHz memory clock speed versus 1.5 GHz.  So it's about an extra 1/3 GPU chip performance and 1/6 memory bandwidth.  The GTX 770 does offer less performance per dollar than the GTX 760, but it's in the range where if you want that kind of performance, you have to pay what it costs.

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