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  Fly666monkey

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OP  7/04/13 1:43:03 PM#1

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/125672-Rumor-World-of-Warcraft-To-Add-Microtransactions

What started as a rumor this morning after several players noticed an XP boosting item in the public test shard has been confirmed by a Blizzard Employee as part of an upcoming in-game cash shop.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9377319765?page=9#177

While no mention has been made of the game moving to a free to play model, this has gotten the rumor mill churning. If WoW is planning on going free to play, could this be the final nail in the coffin for subscription-based MMOGs?

  ThomasN7

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7/04/13 1:49:07 PM#2
Nail in the coffin for subscription based games ? No idea but I don't think the quality is there for mmos to be subscription based anymore. Everyone seems to be making theme park done in a month mmos. Guess we'll soon find out.
  DamonVile

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7/04/13 1:50:18 PM#3
The shining example of p2p is becoming the example of why people stopped paying for them. If your sub isn't giving you all the game has to offer....why are you paying a sub ?
  Robokapp

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7/04/13 1:52:31 PM#4
not good...if Blizzard does it, the F2P fad will last another 1-2 years just because Blizzard did it. Bad news for WoW, bad news for industry.

  azarhal

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7/04/13 1:59:22 PM#5

For some reasons I find this extremely funny.

Also, I'm sure that "store" will have plenty of mounts and pets, Blizz already sell those for WoW.

  Rusque

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7/04/13 2:20:22 PM#6

"We are currently exploring the possibility of adding a way for players in certain regions to make purchases directly within the game," Zarhym says. "We'll provide additional updates on our plans as development progresses."

 

Well if I had to guess which regions would both want and be comfortable with things like XP potions, I'd say the Asian market would fit this description best.

I think we all know WoW will at some point in time, go F2P. But I'm expecting it to remain P2P with Cash Shop for a long time - basically double dipping just because they can.

What I do think this is saying is that they are under pressure to improve revenue and with the slow drain of players and the lack of new players flooding in they have to make more money from existing players to maintain current cash flow.

They've also moved 70% of their Titan staff to other projects (and I'd assume a number of them would go to the WoW team) so they're looking to increase their speed at content creation which, being Blizzard, is glacial.

And they've got to grab the cash while they can, because there are some potential heavy hitters coming out soon that will continue to chip away at WoW subs. TESO, Wildstar, EQN, FFARR

  DamonVile

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7/04/13 2:27:18 PM#7
Originally posted by Rusque

 

 

Well if I had to guess which regions would both want and be comfortable with things like XP potions, I'd say the Asian market would fit this description best.

 

I'm sure you're right, it's also the area of the world they lost the most subs from.

  Sukiyaki

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7/04/13 2:28:35 PM#8

Inb4 WoW invented F2P.

  wartyxwt

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7/04/13 2:29:00 PM#9

I can't actually imagine the point of an XP boost in WoW for anyone but brand new players, and even then it's so fast most people blink and miss it already. I suppose if you just want your new character to 90 asap then you could blitz it in a day or so, at least up to MoP content.

 

However, I am sure I recall Blizzard swearing honest god that the Celestial Steed was not NOT *NOT* (!) the start of a slippery slope into the usual cheesy F2P boosts.

Disappointing. I would hope that being subbed gives you the same exp speed as these pots and they are going to merely add some F2P servers.

  coretex666

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7/04/13 2:41:09 PM#10

The demand for the game is decreasing. As soon as it gets below the point where F2P becomes more profitable than P2P, Blizz board of directors will decide to switch.

Considering the stage of lifecycle the game is at, it is more than obvious that the switch will come sooner or later.

The fact that there wont be almost any P2P MMOs left does not mean that it is "last nail in P2P's coffin". In fact, this statement is quite funny, for me, but you dont need to agree.

As soon as some really good game from business point of view (=there is strong demand for it with an actual price tag) launches, there will be P2P on the scene again, in my opinion.

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  spookydom

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7/04/13 2:41:28 PM#11
It was only a matter of time and we all knew it was coming. I don't play anymore as it bores the crap out of me but I bare the game no ill feelings, had a great time playing it, but my own initial opinion is that cash shop in a subscription game is bad form. If you are going to do that then drop the barriers to entry and the monthly fee.  Going to see what kind of items they will be stocking before totally making my mind up on this one though.

  Ikeda

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7/04/13 2:44:14 PM#12

WTF are you people smoking?

They've been doing these microtransactions for YEARS.  YEARS!

Server transfers, race change, gender change, name change, sparkly horses, cloudy dragons, chimera pets, panda pets.

Bitching about it at this point seems a tad ridiculous.

"ZOMG they're putting their microtransactions IN THE GAME" (as opposed to being a battle.net browser....) 

This is gaming quicksand at it's best.  QUICK DO SOMETHING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM LEAVING IN DROVES.  Chug chug chug (only forcing people to leave quicker).

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  lickm3

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7/04/13 2:49:20 PM#13


Originally posted by Ikeda
WTF are you people smoking?

They've been doing these microtransactions for YEARS.  YEARS!

Server transfers, race change, gender change, name change, sparkly horses, cloudy dragons, chimera pets, panda pets.

Bitching about it at this point seems a tad ridiculous.

"ZOMG they're putting their microtransactions IN THE GAME" (as opposed to being a battle.net browser....) 

This is gaming quicksand at it's best.  QUICK DO SOMETHING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM LEAVING IN DROVES.  Chug chug chug (only forcing people to leave quicker).


Yeah, Its funny how some people are like "WOOAAW! Blizzard add here some microtransactions".

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  Shadowguy64

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7/04/13 2:57:22 PM#14

Remind me when gaining XP was hard and needed a boost?

 

They may as well sell a "Scroll of Maximum Level" for $100 each and be done with it. Why even bother leveling.

 

I blame the players, not Blizz. Blizz is just providing items that the players want (apparenlty).

  Fly666monkey

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OP  7/04/13 3:01:20 PM#15
Originally posted by lickm3

 


Originally posted by Ikeda
WTF are you people smoking?

 

They've been doing these microtransactions for YEARS.  YEARS!

Server transfers, race change, gender change, name change, sparkly horses, cloudy dragons, chimera pets, panda pets.

Bitching about it at this point seems a tad ridiculous.

"ZOMG they're putting their microtransactions IN THE GAME" (as opposed to being a battle.net browser....) 

This is gaming quicksand at it's best.  QUICK DO SOMETHING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM LEAVING IN DROVES.  Chug chug chug (only forcing people to leave quicker).


 

Yeah, Its funny how some people are like "WOOAAW! Blizzard add here some microtransactions".

I think the fact that they are adding an in-game store is the main reason why this is getting the attention it is.  This is the exact reason that I DON'T think they're testing the waters with the XP booster: they've had plenty of time to figure out what people are willing to pay for microtransactions. The XP booster and in game cash shop seems more in line with a steady switch to a Free to Play or Freemium Model.

This is just speculation, of course.

  Purutzil

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7/04/13 3:08:31 PM#16

I have a feeling its going to be used to milk more cash from current users before throwing F2P in the mix. Blizzard isn't above milking its users for money, so having a cash shop with some goods would net them more cash in the long run, until they decide to just go F2P after they feel they got as much as they could from paying subscribers and think its right to go F2P and run on its 'popularity' train before it becomes irrelevant. I think its not really a surprise to anyone in me saying WoW has been far from the 'best' game out there for years now, much of its remaining dominance has been through nostalgia and the use of its numbers left from it. At this point, it is not enough to keep the game going at a steady population. With so much choice and terrible decision after terrible decision trying to cater to casuals, its causing dedicated players to move on, many of which might of gotten more casual friends into the game who leave as well, due to them leaving or just not being as dedicated to it.

 

Wow was a game that brought me plenty of enjoyment in the past, but its time to accept its not the same game it use to be and its aging in the process. Bad game design choices and age can quickly make a big nostalgic game become irrelevant and cause it to 'bleed out' when the market is so over saturated.

  Gorwe

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7/04/13 3:24:04 PM#17
I said in May that within a year, WoW is going to be f2p.

Here it comes...

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  Vladamyre

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7/04/13 3:36:00 PM#18
You honestly think that Wow is going to go f2p anytime soon? Even if they drop below 5 million subs they won't go f2p. They will cut staff to keep that money flowing into the big suits pockets until they can't bleed anything else out of it. It won't go f2p within the next 3 years. With 5 million subs they still rake in 75 million per month, or 900 million per year. You honestly think any company will just stop taking in anything above 900 million dollars a year? The current sub amount or so that they claim to have is still over 8 million. Lets just see, 8 million subs is 120 million per month, or 1 billion 440 million per year. Even if they decline in subs over the next 4 years at a rate of 1 million lost per year they will never go f2p. You merge servers together and get rid of some hardware, cut staff, add in more crap to buy off the blizz store, and keep the money coming in. They won't be hurting for money for the next 10 years or so.

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  Ballsout

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7/04/13 3:45:31 PM#19
I resubbed for a  month and it is dead. I never see anymore than 5-10 people on in any of the guilds of my characters.

  Aldous.Huxley

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7/04/13 3:57:14 PM#20

Meh, old game is old. All this signifies is that this game is losing subs at a high rate & that they are projecting this trend to continue. All failing games eventually seek the crutch that is free to play to maintain the illusion of a virile & healthy population. F2P is essentially the toupee of the mmo industry.

 

Those hoping this signals that P2P is on the ropes are underestimating the P2P player base along with the new FFXIV mmo. Also, like others in numerous posts have said, this isn't exactly a new practice for WoW. It's just that they are trying to make the act of spending money appear to be part of the game & less like online shopping. It's easier to separate you from your money that way. Much like modern day slot machines. They appear to be games but suck your account down to the last & leave you at the gates of Limbo.

 

If WoW goes F2P, many players will seek refuge in another P2P game which could truly be the self inflicted death blow mmo players have been prophetically babbling about for years.

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