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General Discussion  » How can you hate a game that literally has no info released yet?

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  Shadowguy64

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7/02/13 11:40:18 AM#21
Because it was the winner of 2013 E3 Best of Show and people love to hate on winners. (Or bandwagon them too)
  niceguy3978

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7/02/13 11:43:10 AM#22
Originally posted by Margulis

I've seen a LOT of extremely negative, hateful, angry, cynical, resentful, doomsaying posts about EQNext already and it literally has no solid information yet at all.  Nothing.  Seriously??  For all you know this could be one of the most enjoyable games you've ever played.  And sure, maybe it wouldn't be, but why already go to that point of discounting and eliminating it as an option to you without knowing ANYTHING about it?  I can understand being ambivalent or on-the-fence waiting for actual info before being excited, but already hating on the game that no one knows anything about is just as ridiculous as people 100% positive this will be their savior MMO.  Actually, it's worse, because the only feedback that has come out so far about the game has been EXTREMELY positive.  And while people can argue the legitimacy of getting best of show from 2 big mmo websites at E3, which I agree with, the bottom line is still that the feedback was extremely positive, NOT negative.  But still, people swinging completely in the opposite direction with the hating, doomsaying, wanting it to fail, etc etc.

What is wrong with you people?  Is it just a joy at watching other things fail - in other words being pretty miserable, angry and resentful inside?  Have you been burned too many times getting excited for a new game only to be disappointed so now you don't even allow yourself to feel anything but skepticism at any new game release?  Or is it maybe contempt or resentment at SOE or Smedley for things done in the past?  Maybe the company has done some things you don't agree with or that affected you personally in a negative way and you want to see the company suffer?  80% or more of the reasons why I see people saying this game will be horrible or will fail is because of some thing that happened in the past with another game of SOE.  This isn't the past people and it isn't one of those other games!!  Have you never made a mistake or done something that others don't agree with, then in the future do a better job and improve?  Are we, and SOE, locked into doing the exact same things over and over again?  Any mistake we make, doomed to repeat it?  Of course not!!  I HATED  few things SOE has done but so what, why can't I give them a chance with this?  I want people to give me a chance when I screw something up to do better next time.  Why even go to that area of hate already?  THERE IS NO INFO YET - GIVE THE GAME A CHANCE TO SUCK BEFORE DECIDING IT SUCKS AND GIVE SOE A CHANCE TO SCREW IT UP BEFORE DECIDING IT'S ALREADY SCREWED UP!!  Jeez

And hell no I don't think people need to be a fanboi or even be excited for the game yet.  But hating it and wanting it to fail already really does nothing but hurt you.  People excited will remain excited, people waiting for more info will continue to wait for more info before deciding, but you will have already eliminated a game that could be fun as hell for you based solely on your own resentments, anger, or whatever it is that results in the despising of something that literally is completely amorphous as of this point in time.

There really isn't any reason to have any strong feelings about this game since almost nothing is really known about it.  Some people with love it anyway because it has Everquest in the title and others will hate it anyway because it is made by Sony/Smedly.  So I guess the goofiness balances out.

  Studdley

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7/02/13 11:44:40 AM#23
I don't hate EQNext, but it would have to have a completely different mind-set from the original for me to even consider it. EQ was lots and lots of fun, but it also had some really horrible developer decisions. Like a developer making a maxed out Ranger (that are not allowed to wear plate armor) and then strutting around in plate armor for all the "lesser folk" to see. Even joining in raids (but only with the privileged few). Or the 20 minute boat rides to Freeport. Or the fact that an equal level goblin 1vs1 was suicide (at least for a Cleric), and that one still pisses me off the most. Then the death penalty that could actually make you lose a level. They just took time sinks to a whole new level of torture for their customers.  
  Torvaldr

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7/02/13 11:46:15 AM#24
Originally posted by ElderRat
Originally posted by Alders

It's not the game, it's the countless posts filled with nonsense about a game we know basically nothing about.

Oh it's a "sandbox!"

By who's definition?  No one can even agree what a real sandbox is, let alone agree about an MMO with no info.

also there is the "is Smedley telling us anything or just saying anything he thinks will continue the hype" factor.

Smed loves to troll.  I think he gets bored and likes to see what sort of stir or reaction he can get (e.g. the permadeath tweet).  I think Scott Hartsman even mentioned in a recent mmorpg.com interview that Smed likes to mess with people, even his own people.  I can see him laughing from his office as he and his minions tweet vagaries associated with the game.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  erictlewis

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7/02/13 11:46:25 AM#25

I still play eq2, it is my game.  I would have still been playing SWG if it were not for the nge followed by Lucas Arts screwing all of us. 

I will say this a lot of folks will hate EQNEXT just because Smedly is involved.  I got to admit, I went toe to toe with Smedly at the 2006 SWG summit in Atlanta.  I was the guy who told him that I was no longer the demographic he was looking for, and he told me I was wrong, and that kicked off a heated argument between me him and several other players. 

I don't like Smedly ,  I think that hes made a lot of bad decisions.  However I will not discount EQNEXT just because of Smedly. 

However I can understand why folks have such hate for Smedly. 

 

  coretex666

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"I shall take your position into consideration"

7/02/13 11:48:58 AM#26
I can hate anything I want!

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4

  bcbully

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7/02/13 11:49:09 AM#27
Originally posted by IAmMMO
It's called shills! This site is a hot bed of them.

This.

  Drakynn

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7/02/13 11:50:42 AM#28

I haven't seen a lot of hate on these forums for EQN only  negative response to the positive hype based on air  and wishful thinking and people with agendas trying to shape what little information there is into what they want to see.

I think most of us are wait and see.

  Velocinox

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7/02/13 11:51:46 AM#29
And how can you defend it?

'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than the one you've become familiar with.


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Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.

  UW1975

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7/02/13 11:52:21 AM#30
I feel it is really stupid to" hate" a game. "hate" is a pretty strong word, better left to more serious things in life
  azzamasin

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7/02/13 11:54:02 AM#31
Originally posted by ReallyNow10
The typical "I-got-to-follow-a-linear-script-so-I-can-be-the-Chosen-One" crowd hates any MMORPG that involves risk, challenge, and choice.  They want an interactive movie, basically.

 Some of us actually enjoy non linear themeparks. Just sayin'.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  azzamasin

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7/02/13 11:58:31 AM#32
Originally posted by IAmMMO
It's called shills! This site is a hot bed of them.

 Also Hypocrisy runs rather rampant on this site too.

 

How many say one thing and do another?  Like talk about how linear themeparks are the devil and turn around and defend a game like FFXIV.  I've seen a few do that, much to my chagrin and amazement.   

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Drakynn

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7/02/13 12:01:48 PM#33
Originally posted by UW1975
I feel it is really stupid to" hate" a game. "hate" is a pretty strong word, better left to more serious things in life

Most people do not hate games they may dislike them and stop playing them but not hate.

Some people however see any opinion that doesn't agree with their own as hate.

A Very few people however do go overboard and fall into fanatical hate or love with games.

  etlar

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7/02/13 12:04:13 PM#34
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by IAmMMO
It's called shills! This site is a hot bed of them.

 Also Hypocrisy runs rather rampant on this site too.

 

How many say one thing and do another?  Like talk about how linear themeparks are the devil and turn around and defend a game like FFXIV.  I've seen a few do that, much to my chagrin and amazement.   

lolo ofcourse everyone says one thing and does another(go to a themepark) 

when there are no sandboxes worth mentioning, except maybe a 10 year old ultima, what do you exspect.

  KingGator

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7/02/13 12:05:27 PM#35

To the OP; they hate it because it will probably have classes and not be console style pew pew pew combat. The younger generation are all console players and that's what they want in RPGS, if they're not going to get it they spew hate.

 

GW2 had "action" combat and that game is terrible. I hope they don't fall in to the "we're going to innovate the interface and controls" trap and instead deliver us outstanding content, because that's where every mmo since WoW has failed.

  Allein

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7/02/13 12:05:38 PM#36
I hate having another month to wait for actual info! Can't wait for the arguments to turn toward real issues (dark elves ears aren't pointy enough, iksar don't have enough scales, female dwarves should have beards!)

Hopefully they open up offical forums asap and those just stopping by to be negative, wont bother anymore. Or at least have something constructive to say.
  ElderRat

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7/02/13 12:09:51 PM#37
Originally posted by Drakynn

I haven't seen a lot of hate on these forums for EQN only  negative response to the positive hype based on air  and wishful thinking and people with agendas trying to shape what little information there is into what they want to see.

I think most of us are wait and see.

I believe it is not just EQN, any game that gets a lot of hype draws some hate here. the " for every action there is an equal an opposite reaction" factor. Of course some of the "hate" is not an actual hate but a desire to troll.  I saw a lot of hate for GW2 during the pre-launch hype for that game.

Currently bored with MMO's.

  Drakynn

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7/02/13 12:10:57 PM#38
Originally posted by etlar
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by IAmMMO
It's called shills! This site is a hot bed of them.

 Also Hypocrisy runs rather rampant on this site too.

 

How many say one thing and do another?  Like talk about how linear themeparks are the devil and turn around and defend a game like FFXIV.  I've seen a few do that, much to my chagrin and amazement.   

lolo ofcourse everyone says one thing and does another(go to a themepark) 

when there are no sandboxes worth mentioning, except maybe a 10 year old ultima, what do you exspect.

um self control?Courage of Conviction?If you hate themeparks but continue to contribute to their sales success you deserve what you get.

If you feel you have to play a MMORPG just to be playing one even if you hate it,then you have a problem you should seek help with and should probably leave the genre completely.

  Tygranir

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7/02/13 12:11:31 PM#39
Google shows "The next big MMO" When searching EverQuest Next. Google has never let me down before.

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  coretex666

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7/02/13 12:16:53 PM#40
Originally posted by Tygranir
Google shows "The next big MMO" When searching EverQuest Next. Google has never let me down before.

I hate google

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