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  FanOfSuperman

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Joined: 6/18/13
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7/01/13 1:25:32 PM#41
Originally posted by achesoma
Originally posted by Ozmodan

"the frighteningly zone-locked Lord of the Rings Online for horrendous examples of free-to-play transitioning gone bad"

Come on Suzie, the zone locking in Lotro was easy to remove.  I still find the Lotro implementation to be one of the best moves to  ftp, besides just subbing for a month unlocked a lot of things.  SWTOR is much worse.

First time I have tried Rift and they did do a good implementation of ftp.  Their IOS security app is broken though.  Fun game.  

 

Yeah, I was having issues IOS authenticator as well.  Apparently, you have to hit the sync every time.  Well, that's what worked for me.

Hmm, that's odd...I don't seem to have any issues on my Enormous, One-Trick-Pony, Samsung Galaxy S4! :P

  Witten

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Joined: 6/30/13
Posts: 56

7/01/13 1:27:22 PM#42

I didn't think my opinion mattered that much to warrant a deletion tbh, Suzie. It was only like, what, 11 words, to your essay?

Well written, I might add.

  Wizardry

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Posts: 6994

Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

7/01/13 1:31:35 PM#43

I retried to see what is going on and wow tons of lag.It felt like i was stuck around 5-10 fps.

I messed with the settings on high and low to see if much changed and nope.Low settings looked a lot like high settings  and lag was badly there even with shadows completely off.I played this on release  and it was not hat bad,so something is amiss,perhaps server lag,i really don't know ,but it feels like no culling to control loading of graphics.Textures are highly compressed so again that is not the reason,like i said graphics are very average.

Aside from that there is bag limits like 2-3.I couldn't play it longer as the lag was so bad it was giving me a bad headache and locking up steady was just not fun.The game that hit the spotlight for lag the most ever was Vanguard and yet this game is far worse.heck i just played FFXIV Beta and it kept me around 30 fps even with very good graphics.Even when Eq2 the first real good looking game was all bugged and improperly coded it ran better than Rift is right now.

I would pin point the lag to too much clutter on a map,many sounds going off,too many meaningless objects and too many npc's but it was not this bad before.So it is probably a combination of server lag,maybe some problems with culling and just too much gpu loading in general.

The reason it seems badly coded is because inside the starting warehouse i was facing literally nothing to overload the system and yet it was already lagging bad.It feels like around 5-10 fps,i have a real good feel for that having played a lot of first person shooters and understanding both gpu and latency very well.It did say the server load was high so some is definitely server lag.

 

 

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  Dreamo84

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7/01/13 1:34:33 PM#44
Originally posted by FanOfSuperman
Originally posted by achesoma
Originally posted by Ozmodan

"the frighteningly zone-locked Lord of the Rings Online for horrendous examples of free-to-play transitioning gone bad"

Come on Suzie, the zone locking in Lotro was easy to remove.  I still find the Lotro implementation to be one of the best moves to  ftp, besides just subbing for a month unlocked a lot of things.  SWTOR is much worse.

First time I have tried Rift and they did do a good implementation of ftp.  Their IOS security app is broken though.  Fun game.  

 

Yeah, I was having issues IOS authenticator as well.  Apparently, you have to hit the sync every time.  Well, that's what worked for me.

Hmm, that's odd...I don't seem to have any issues on my Enormous, One-Trick-Pony, Samsung Galaxy S4! :P

Can you wave your hand over it to make it flush the toilet for you? =P

  NobleNerd

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Joined: 2/08/08
Posts: 529

Try not!Do or do notThere is no try.

7/01/13 1:50:25 PM#45

I agree that Trion has done a great job going f2p. It is not in your face all the time trying to get you to buy something. I love how you can open the shop and purchase with credit or ingame currency anywhere you are. The f2p is not what will stop me from continuing to play the game (at current I still sub.).

 

What will hinder me from continuing to play Rift is the fact that the factions are still sharing everything, not only that but little is faction specific anymore. You can now purchase the other faction's mounts, etc and I still have to play "nice nice" with the other side!!!! I know for many they don't care about this nor do they even think about how the lore is all messed up now, but this matters to me. When I pvp I want to have an enemy, but half the time I am teamed up with my enemy. NOT only am I forced to be a mercenary with my enemy, but I share guilds, raids, IE, and dungeons AND now They can even defect and be a part of the opposite faction !?!?!

 

In a time when more and more old school players (especially) are crying for 3 faction divided experience Trion is pretty much doing away with factions all together!

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  Sp00sh

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Beer and Weed!

7/01/13 1:51:23 PM#46
I love it, and will be bringing all my friends!
  GODGANONDORF

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Joined: 11/11/09
Posts: 60

Leave others try you dont have the right to stop'em

7/01/13 2:12:36 PM#47
Is an excelent game and one jewel in this sea of p2 win games because its real free to play, give the game a try and maybe u find urself in love with a nice mmo worth of spend some dime from tiemto time

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  goth1c

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Joined: 9/02/09
Posts: 29

7/01/13 2:21:28 PM#48
Yep, rift F2P was well done, in my opinion isnt P2W as you cna get all the stuff in game... Even cash shop points...
  HurricanePip

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7/01/13 2:34:30 PM#49
Loved Rift.  It was a good MMO that I'll always remember as veing very polished and a lot of fun.

If you don't worry about it, it's not a problem.

  DeanGrey

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Joined: 3/29/13
Posts: 149

7/01/13 2:38:41 PM#50
Originally posted by NobleNerd

I agree that Trion has done a great job going f2p. It is not in your face all the time trying to get you to buy something. I love how you can open the shop and purchase with credit or ingame currency anywhere you are. The f2p is not what will stop me from continuing to play the game (at current I still sub.).

 

What will hinder me from continuing to play Rift is the fact that the factions are still sharing everything, not only that but little is faction specific anymore. You can now purchase the other faction's mounts, etc and I still have to play "nice nice" with the other side!!!! I know for many they don't care about this nor do they even think about how the lore is all messed up now, but this matters to me. When I pvp I want to have an enemy, but half the time I am teamed up with my enemy. NOT only am I forced to be a mercenary with my enemy, but I share guilds, raids, IE, and dungeons AND now They can even defect and be a part of the opposite faction !?!?!

 

In a time when more and more old school players (especially) are crying for 3 faction divided experience Trion is pretty much doing away with factions all together!

To be fair, the factions divide was not interesting anyways. This goes for most MMO's. Shoehorning players into one side or another doesn't make them care anymore beyond the outcome of what affects themselves. I am in favor of systems that allow players to create their own factions, that is what I want to see in more MMO's.

However, I do think it is strange how things work on the PvP server as a result of factions that aren't divided.

  Volgore

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7/01/13 2:52:57 PM#51

Funny thing is, back then you got easily banned on this website for saying that Rift will go F2P and threads discussing that topic got locked or deleted. Of course only after you've had a squad of white knights touting that Rift is so alive and well and will never go F2P allover you.

Now the same website and the same people hail "Rift went F2P".

It went F2P because for too many people it was just not good enough to spend money on it. For most people though, it was just not good enough to spend time on it. And it still isn't.

 

  PieRad

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7/01/13 2:57:39 PM#52
Tried it again, couldn't get back into it... Pretty boring if you ask me... :/

  Sho0terMcgavin

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7/01/13 3:34:32 PM#53
There is a lot to love about Rift.  Its definitely one of the best F2P models out there (along with Tera for example).  So much to do and never a dull moment.  But, I have to be honest.  I just can not for the life of me get back into the slow boring combat (i'm a level 39 SpellBlade, so I didn't quit before finishing the starter area).  I really hope someone out there is thinking about making a new mmo with combat system like Teras, but with a lot of Rift's good points like the dynamic events and other things.

  Corvusco

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7/01/13 3:42:38 PM#54
Great game, great f2p transition and SUPERB customer support! The best customer support ever!
 
  Iselin

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7/01/13 3:48:51 PM#55
Originally posted by Volgore

Funny thing is, back then you got easily banned on this website for saying that Rift will go F2P and threads discussing that topic got locked or deleted. Of course only after you've had a squad of white knights touting that Rift is so alive and well and will never go F2P allover you.

Now the same website and the same people hail "Rift went F2P".

It went F2P because for too many people it was just not good enough to spend money on it. For most people though, it was just not good enough to spend time on it. And it still isn't.

 

Times change. For many years "going F2P" was code for "it sucks" and trolls used (still do a bit) that to bash the game and provoke the fans. That's why those threads got locked. They were almost 100% troll threads.

GW2 was a game changer. An MMO that provided AAA P2P MMO quality without a sub. At the time it came out, many here argued against my posts saying just that. Now you have even the most hyped game this site has ever known, EQN, starting, not "going" F2P. The argument now isn't whether something is good enough to be worth a sub. It's about why anyone in their right mind would pay a sub for an MMO when there is so much AAA quality and variety in F2P titles.

People who want to try to provoke fans of MMOs will just need to come with a new shorthand to troll the forums.

 

BTW... I came back to Rift after ~ 14 months away and I'm having a blast. As others have said, this is also an excellent and unobtrussive implementation of F2P.

  Torvaldr

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7/01/13 3:51:18 PM#56
Originally posted by Sho0terMcgavin
There is a lot to love about Rift.  Its definitely one of the best F2P models out there (along with Tera for example).  So much to do and never a dull moment.  But, I have to be honest.  I just can not for the life of me get back into the slow boring combat (i'm a level 39 SpellBlade, so I didn't quit before finishing the starter area).  I really hope someone out there is thinking about making a new mmo with combat system like Teras, but with a lot of Rift's good points like the dynamic events and other things.

Tab-targeted combat is one of the most unappealing aspects of the game for me now.  I love most everything else about the game, especially the class build system.  The traditional static combat just feels overly simplistic and boring.

It's still a very fun game, but I can't see playing more than one static combat game at a time.

edit:  I forgot to mention it is one of the best F2P setups out there.  For me, it's right up there with Tera and GW2 with how they charge for stuff and the access provided.

Curse you AquaScum!

  WalterWhite

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It's time to cook.

7/01/13 3:54:26 PM#57

I have been playing this game a lot over the past 4-5 days with different classes trying to get a feel for the game again and I have to say, the F2P conversion is fantastic. The game is still looking good and there are quite a lot of people on even at non peak hours which is good.

The one thing about RIFT is it doesn't draw me in enough to make me want to go further and I am already back playing LotRO. I shall continue to dabble with it now and again for a change of scenery as I said, it is a good game and I am glad it is doing well.

  codifier

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7/01/13 4:38:43 PM#58
Rift is such a good themepark game, comparable to WoW. Also it's completely free without content restrictions, that's amazing thing. I feel like I can go back to Rift anytime without paying a penny. Just download Rift, play it and enjoy! Rift has a great future now! Trion GJ.
  Sho0terMcgavin

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7/01/13 5:02:33 PM#59
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Sho0terMcgavin
There is a lot to love about Rift.  Its definitely one of the best F2P models out there (along with Tera for example).  So much to do and never a dull moment.  But, I have to be honest.  I just can not for the life of me get back into the slow boring combat (i'm a level 39 SpellBlade, so I didn't quit before finishing the starter area).  I really hope someone out there is thinking about making a new mmo with combat system like Teras, but with a lot of Rift's good points like the dynamic events and other things.

Tab-targeted combat is one of the most unappealing aspects of the game for me now.  I love most everything else about the game, especially the class build system.  The traditional static combat just feels overly simplistic and boring.

It's still a very fun game, but I can't see playing more than one static combat game at a time.

edit:  I forgot to mention it is one of the best F2P setups out there.  For me, it's right up there with Tera and GW2 with how they charge for stuff and the access provided.

 

Couldn't agree with you more.  I really dislike Tab target combat.  I used to enjoy it, but like many things its time has passed for me.  I know there is definitely a market for Tab Target, as I know a few of my RL friends who prefer it over action combat (Tera or Neverwinter).  I guess its just not for me.  I do hope the game does well though, it definitely deserves it.

  Davfor7

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7/01/13 5:03:33 PM#60
With all the changes they have done (and the fact a friend of mine got me to try again) it is fun to play again. I had bought the Infinity Edition of the xpac but never got to play it as real life happened. Then, I just didn't see paying the sub as I was involved in 2 -3 other games. Well, other games lost my interest after my friends stopped playing them and then I heard the f2p. After my disappointment with Defiance and remembered how bored I got after 3 month in RIFT, I was hesitant to try again. But I am glad I gave it another go. So much so that I have all my other subs cancelled and re upped my sub for RIFT again! Trion did some great things for RIFT and its fun again.
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