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  Roguewiz

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Joined: 9/01/02
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When a Kender says "oops!"; its already too late.

7/01/13 8:06:10 AM#21

The type of subscription model has little to no effect on the success of the game.  The crap content, the horrible design, and the boring combat makes games fail.

P2P Models that "work(ed)":  WoW, EQ1, EQ2, FFXI, DAoC

B2P Models that work:  Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, Defiance (somewhat)

Freemium Models that work:  DDO, LotR

 

If the game is good enough to warrant a subscription, people will p(l)ay it.

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  Iadien

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7/01/13 8:21:16 AM#22
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
My experience with SOE's f2p games are pretty bad. EQ2 is almost unplayable without a sub. Yeah, I just pay the sub because I like the game but most people will try to play it for free, see it sucks, and stop. That's what worries me.

No, it really isn't. But, EQ2 wasn't designed with F2P in mind, EQN is.

  Phry

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7/01/13 8:33:41 AM#23
Originally posted by Roguewiz

The type of subscription model has little to no effect on the success of the game.  The crap content, the horrible design, and the boring combat makes games fail.

P2P Models that "work(ed)":  WoW, EQ1, EQ2, FFXI, DAoC

B2P Models that work:  Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, Defiance (somewhat)

Freemium Models that work:  DDO, LotR

 

If the game is good enough to warrant a subscription, people will p(l)ay it.

I would go one further, if a game is good it will succeed regardless of whether the game is P2P F2P or B2P, the subscription model used in any game has no bearing whatsoever on a games success.

it doesnt make a game more fun, or add depth to the gameplay, although in some cases it can impede gameplay, though this is usually only in F2P games where some activities may require a payment. But overall, if a game is fun to play, it will succeed regardless.

P2P does not ruin games, bad games ruin themselves, and players that have unrealistic expectations about how much money they have to spend in a f2p game are inevitably disappointed when they discover that F2P does not actually mean the game is totally free. Payment is required at some point, in every case.
  Phry

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7/01/13 8:36:14 AM#24
Originally posted by Iadien
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
My experience with SOE's f2p games are pretty bad. EQ2 is almost unplayable without a sub. Yeah, I just pay the sub because I like the game but most people will try to play it for free, see it sucks, and stop. That's what worries me.

No, it really isn't. But, EQ2 wasn't designed with F2P in mind, EQN is.

Because it means that the cash shop is integral to the game, it just means that it will be easier to access. If you were disappointed with EQ2 because of how intrusive it was, then your likely not suited to F2P games anyway, although EQ2 did have a lot of flaws regardless.

  Aelious

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Joined: 9/27/11
Posts: 2829

World > Quest Progression

7/01/13 8:41:47 AM#25
Originally posted by Grahor

I have a huge fear that p2p will ruin EQN like it did SWTOR and FFIV, and literally every other p2p I've seen. I have not enjoyed a single p2p game because the games are so shallow, and anytime you need to do anything important you have to grind. You usually end up paying more than in f2p, especially if you don't spend all your time ingame. What are some good p2p? Because the ones I've played and seen are just so boring after the first week. How can EQN do any better?

 

P.S. I know, that EQN is f2p. I'm just annoyed with countless pointless f2p posts by clueless posters.

 

I have many comments, none of which you'll listen to (based on your replies to reasonable arguments so far) so if this has to do with people's opinion on F2P please move it to The Pub.

  hfztt

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Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 819

7/01/13 8:48:12 AM#26
Originally posted by Roguewiz

B2P Models that work:  Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, Defiance (somewhat)

I would add TSW to that list, but yeah.

  TsaboHavoc

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Joined: 11/01/11
Posts: 366

7/01/13 8:54:10 AM#27
wtf , congratulations.  You leveled your Trolling Skill to 3! Now you have the ability  to wander 300 mts from your brigde.
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