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General Discussion  » Guild Wars 2 is a success no matter how you feel about it.

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  Torgrim

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OP  6/27/13 6:18:50 PM#1

Lets face it GW2 is the rare gem that manage to break the WOW mold and made it B2P with monthly updates far more worthy than the traditional pay to use/sub model.

Yes I know some people dont enjoy GW2 and thats perfectly fine thats just human nature, we all can't enjoy the same thing that would be absurb, but you cant say GW2 i not a success in MMORPG industry.

Is GW2 success such a bad thing in grand scheme of it all?

I dont think so, GW2 made a dent that WoW clones are not the absolute in MMO there are rooms for changes and improvements.

 

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  Kyleran

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6/27/13 6:21:10 PM#2
Would someone really argue against this?

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  godpuppet

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6/27/13 6:25:02 PM#3

Yes... Becuase thats what were all losing sleep about, GW2 being a potential success...

no one cares, go outside..

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  Onecrazyguy

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6/27/13 6:25:15 PM#4
Originally posted by Torgrim

Lets face it GW2 is the rare gem that manage to break the WOW mold and made it B2P with monthly updates far more worthy than the traditional pay to use/sub model.

Yes I know some people dont enjoy GW2 and thats perfectly fine thats just human nature, we all can't enjoy the same thing that would be absurb, but you cant say GW2 i not a success in MMORPG industry.

Is GW2 success such a bad thing in grand scheme of it all?

I dont think so, GW2 made a dent that WoW clones are not the absolute in MMO there are rooms for changes and improvements.

 

Depends on how you measure success. If it's in terms of gameplay, some would disagree violently with you. If it's in terms of fiscally, you'd be wrong. If it's in terms of being unique and having a decent following, I'd agree that you are correct.

  someforumguy

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6/27/13 6:25:28 PM#5
Originally posted by Kyleran
Would someone really argue against this?

Of course. You could find people who argue against anything. But that should not matter. But if you want to argue with them anyway,  you only need a thread like the OP created to lure them out :p

  Torgrim

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OP  6/27/13 6:30:30 PM#6
Originally posted by Kyleran
Would someone really argue against this?

 

If you have read the boards for the past 6 months then yes there are people who argue about it.

 

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  Torgrim

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OP  6/27/13 6:31:38 PM#7
Originally posted by godpuppet

Yes... Becuase thats what were all losing sleep about, GW2 being a potential success...

no one cares, go outside..

 

You seems to care when you took the time to post in this thread.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  Soki123

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6/27/13 6:32:02 PM#8
Depends on what you measure as success.
  Torgrim

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OP  6/27/13 6:33:17 PM#9
Originally posted by Soki123
Depends on what you measure as success.

How do you measure it?

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  godpuppet

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6/27/13 6:35:33 PM#10
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by godpuppet

Yes... Becuase thats what were all losing sleep about, GW2 being a potential success...

no one cares, go outside..

 

You seems to care when you took the time to post in this thread.

Well, call it an objection of riduculousness to your statement.

it doesnt matter how people feel about it, if arena net made profit, it was a success..

what a few flamers say on an internet forum isnt going to change whats currently in their bank account..

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  duggyfr3sh123

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6/27/13 6:35:45 PM#11
Originally posted by Kyleran
Would someone really argue against this?

most people here live to argue against this nowadays.

  Searias

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6/27/13 6:37:31 PM#12
Game got too boring for me and haven't played it since January :P.

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  Torgrim

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OP  6/27/13 6:38:41 PM#13
Originally posted by godpuppet
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by godpuppet

Yes... Becuase thats what were all losing sleep about, GW2 being a potential success...

no one cares, go outside..

 

You seems to care when you took the time to post in this thread.

Well, call it an objection of riduculousness to your statement.

it doesnt matter how people feel about it, if arena net made profit, it was a success..

what a few flamers say on an internet forum isnt going to change whats currently in their bank account..

Ok.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  PorkNails

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6/27/13 6:39:56 PM#14
Originally posted by Torgrim

Lets face it GW2 is the rare gem that manage to break the WOW mold and made it B2P with monthly updates far more worthy than the traditional pay to use/sub model.

Yes I know some people dont enjoy GW2 and thats perfectly fine thats just human nature, we all can't enjoy the same thing that would be absurb, but you cant say GW2 i not a success in MMORPG industry.

Is GW2 success such a bad thing in grand scheme of it all?

I dont think so, GW2 made a dent that WoW clones are not the absolute in MMO there are rooms for changes and improvements.

 

this isn't the first post I see saying this, and its indeed true. But the success of guild wars was to be a game meant for casuals, pure casuals. 

My background is not WOW, as it was an easy game for my taste at the time. I played GW1 (first mmo i played, when i was 11 years old), then i went to Lineage 2, a really hardcore game, but i havent played a single game where it felt so good to finally craft my dagger and noticing that damage increase. It felt awsome, a real reward for the time and effort.

GW2 has very good mecanics (combat, lore, world feeling wise) but there are things that make it just too easy for players that play every day. Getting the best armor/weapon in the game its easy and from there its just the same until you get bored and make another character. And after the 6th character i already know the maps, the "dynamic" events, the vistas, everything... You can run a dungeons hundreds of times and never see a good drop. And even if you get an exotic, you already have your gear, what use does it have?

I love the way arena net keeps updating.. new content every month, very rare in a B2P. But then i get into a dungeon and i have to play super mario to complete it. Look at the bosses in this new dungeon, just like playing Jack & Dexter back in ps2.

I'm still waiting for that mmo that keeps me playing for years, never getting to the boring and mythic end game. And GW2 ain't it. 

 

EDIT:

Conclusion, it is a success because NCsoft made profit and its one of the best mmo's right now, which worries me a bit.

  PiratePete

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6/27/13 6:52:02 PM#15

The game is good. It's made other games that have the point and click movements or stand still and use a skill gameplay seem obsolete now.

 

If a game has those systems in it I'm already bored of it because it feels clunky and old. 

 

But I haven't honestly played gw2 much other than the weekly wvw resets with my guild. Mainly because after going through the pve once I don't have a reason to redo it. Making other characters feels like a chore. If we could have WvW separate from PVE level progression I'd be playing it a lot more I think. But I really don't want to try another character and grind it up to 80 to be relevant in wvw situations. 

 

If the pve was harder, like it was in the betas, then it might be interesting. But they dumbed it down quite a bit because a lot of people were finding it hard to adjust to the new gameplay style. I remember AC in the betas. That was tough.. now it's easy :\. 

 

Still a great game that hopefully changes the mold of others. I would be quite interested in other games developed by them in the future. 

  Amjoco

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6/27/13 6:58:42 PM#16
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by godpuppet

Yes... Becuase thats what were all losing sleep about, GW2 being a potential success...

no one cares, go outside..

 

You seems to care when you took the time to post in this thread.

A+. 

The OP was expressing an opinion by starting the thread. No one should shun him. What's worse is he tarnished the good fellow by telling him to go outside! Blah, hopefully he doesn't live in Phoenix. where it's suppose to go up to 115 degrees today. To gaming nerds like us, that could boil our blood in mere seconds.

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  Amjoco

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6/27/13 7:01:05 PM#17
Originally posted by Searias
Game got too boring for me and haven't played it since January :P.

The topic of discussion is it's success. He didn't say 100% successful! :)

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  kichwas

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6/27/13 7:01:16 PM#18
Originally posted by pedruzorro
Originally posted by Torgrim

Lets face it GW2 is the rare gem that manage to break the WOW mold and made it B2P with monthly updates far more worthy than the traditional pay to use/sub model.

Is GW2 success such a bad thing in grand scheme of it all?

this isn't the first post I see saying this, and its indeed true. But the success of guild wars was to be a game meant for casuals, pure casuals.

 

Either I misread you or you imply this is a bad thing.

If WoW is for the 10 million who are the 1% that are hardcore, maybe Guild Wars can be for the 2 million who are among the 99% that play things a little less obsessively. ;)

(Or maybe WoW isn't so hardcore... Just addictive... )

The again... what do these terms 'hardcore' and 'casual' actually mean. I'd wager nothing. Nothing more than an indicator of what the typist of them dislikes or likes.

 

Whether or not one likes GW2 or WoW or neither or both... it is VERY GOOD for MMOs in general, and even for these two, that there are now two successful MMOs in North America, and not just one.

- That gives upcoming MMOs some breathing room to innovate more, and to convince investors that its worth trying.

- It gives us a chance to have the next MMO not just be a port of something 7 years old from China, Japan, or Korea.

 

Guild Wars 2 is a great success. Its not a WoW killer - but it is a success. And these are both good things. Frankly a WoW killer would be a bad thing for the hobby - it would just replace one company's stagnant vision with another. Much better to have multiple games making profit and sporting healthy communities.

 

  Tamanous

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6/27/13 7:06:18 PM#19

It is completely meaningless to me how commercially successful a game is if I do not end up playing it.

 

If knowing a game has more people playing it than another grants you more security and a better feeling of purpose then so be it. I however make my own decisions and control my own destiny. Some people run with the lemmings while others aren't afraid to take new paths.

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  Battlerock

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6/27/13 7:09:56 PM#20

I don't play it, I have played it, but I don't really like it. With that said I glad it's a success because I want games that I don't play to be successful. I can't play them all and if the successful games were limited to the ones I play we would have a wopping 3 successful games a year.

Games I do play yes I want them to be even more successful, but that doesn't mean I need to bash on games I don't play. So kudos to gw2 and grats on being successful.

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