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General Discussion  » Lead Game Designer on Everquest Next Debunks Non-Consent PVP

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  Sovrath

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6/26/13 4:44:35 PM#101
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Riposte.This
I don't know why there are so many threads on this topic. Go play EQ1 and EQ2 and you will see what the pvp will be like, or at least a general decision.

I played them both and I dont agree. I think there will be some type of PvP added to EQN thats deeper then just a tomb of discord and PvP servers. With modern MMOs where they are PvP is really a great time killer and if you dont have it, people play games that do. To really be a next gen MMO I think EQN needs PvP with some depth. 

I really do believe that there are going to be lessons taken from EVE.

  Nanfoodle

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6/26/13 4:48:34 PM#102
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Riposte.This
I don't know why there are so many threads on this topic. Go play EQ1 and EQ2 and you will see what the pvp will be like, or at least a general decision.

I played them both and I dont agree. I think there will be some type of PvP added to EQN thats deeper then just a tomb of discord and PvP servers. With modern MMOs where they are PvP is really a great time killer and if you dont have it, people play games that do. To really be a next gen MMO I think EQN needs PvP with some depth. 

I really do believe that there are going to be lessons taken from EVE.

Challenge EVE and AA? Could be. I would try it.

  Hellidol

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6/26/13 4:51:57 PM#103
Originally posted by TheJoda
Not much really said at all.......You can read that 100's different ways.

yup.....

  Xssiv

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6/26/13 4:54:31 PM#104
Originally posted by Ehliya

Well, the reason many (not all) PVPers want everyone together playing open-world is so they have plenty of easy targets.

In situations like early UO, the "hard core PVPers" tended not to seek each other out to fight.  Instead they went for the most gain at least risk, e.g. the crafters, RPers, explorers - basically people less able to defend themselves.

So anytime you hear "give us open world full loot PVP!" you can translate that as "give us plenty of easy kills!"

In games like Conan, on the open PVP servers, it was common to see level 60's and higher roaming the starting areas mowing down defenseless newcomers.  Any game company in their right mind that wants to attract customers will avoid that sort of "PVP."

I have to disagree.   I've been playing on PvP servers almost exclusively for many years and I don't know anyone who runs around looking for "easy targets"

 

We play on PvP servers because it's a much more unpredictable and immersive experience when compared to the PvE server rule set.    

Granted, it's certainly not for everyone but to say that PvP'ers only like open world PvP because they can gank "easy targets" is simply a false generalization. 

 

 

 

 

  Ramanadjinn

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6/26/13 4:54:57 PM#105

I was upset to log in and see that the PVP in this game was "debunked."

Thankfully I read the OP and realized nothing at all has actually happened or been said!

  Khayotix

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OP  6/26/13 4:58:43 PM#106
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

I was upset to log in and see that the PVP in this game was "debunked."

Thankfully I read the OP and realized nothing at all has actually happened or been said!

I Never said PVP was debunked, I said Non Consent PvP was debunked, and it was, regardless of what anyone wants to believe the question was only in one context and the answer was only in the context of the question.

  Nanfoodle

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6/26/13 5:02:15 PM#107
Originally posted by Khayotix
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

I was upset to log in and see that the PVP in this game was "debunked."

Thankfully I read the OP and realized nothing at all has actually happened or been said!

I Never said PVP was debunked, I said Non Consent PvP was debunked, and it was, regardless of what anyone wants to believe the question was only in one context and the answer was only in the context of the question.

Your taking a leap in a direction that has no proof. What was said could be taken 100 ways.

  Ghavrigg

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6/26/13 5:02:54 PM#108
Originally posted by Khayotix
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn

I was upset to log in and see that the PVP in this game was "debunked."

Thankfully I read the OP and realized nothing at all has actually happened or been said!

I Never said PVP was debunked, I said Non Consent PvP was debunked, and it was, regardless of what anyone wants to believe the question was only in one context and the answer was only in the context of the question.

True enough. Open world PvP is likely still on the table, but it would be kinda stupid of them to force people into it if they don't want it. They might have a PvP server for that, but it seems the genre has been sorta moving away from servers with alternate rule sets lately. Or maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention.

  sonicbrew

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6/26/13 5:03:03 PM#109
And the PR train strikes again! Now even flooding over from Twitter. All this hype and buzz over known nothingness. How sweet free advertising is hey SOE? Now give a mighty golf clap to all your new age gaming lemmings <drum roll>

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  DamonVile

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6/26/13 5:29:36 PM#110
Originally posted by Xssiv
Originally posted by Ehliya

Well, the reason many (not all) PVPers want everyone together playing open-world is so they have plenty of easy targets.

In situations like early UO, the "hard core PVPers" tended not to seek each other out to fight.  Instead they went for the most gain at least risk, e.g. the crafters, RPers, explorers - basically people less able to defend themselves.

So anytime you hear "give us open world full loot PVP!" you can translate that as "give us plenty of easy kills!"

In games like Conan, on the open PVP servers, it was common to see level 60's and higher roaming the starting areas mowing down defenseless newcomers.  Any game company in their right mind that wants to attract customers will avoid that sort of "PVP."

I have to disagree.   I've been playing on PvP servers almost exclusively for many years and I don't know anyone who runs around looking for "easy targets"

 

We play on PvP servers because it's a much more unpredictable and immersive experience when compared to the PvE server rule set.    

Granted, it's certainly not for everyone but to say that PvP'ers only like open world PvP because they can gank "easy targets" is simply a false generalization. 

 

 

 

You highlighted a section of the post but didn't answer or even make a point against what it was actually saying. You posted why you play on a pvp server not why you want pve players to be forced to be on that server with you. No one was ever questioning why people pick a pvp server. It's why do pve players HAVE to be on there with you.

  Yamota

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6/26/13 5:33:50 PM#111
Originally posted by Khayotix
Originally posted by TheJoda
Not much really said at all.......You can read that 100's different ways.

It can only be read in the context of the question being answered. That is will it be forced on players who do not want it. The answer, That would be a poor design decision.

I understand people want to live in their little world of believing they are right, but that gets old when the truth hammer hits you and they still deny it.

No it does not. He said clearly that he specifically cannot comment on it and then made the general statement that they dont make bad design decisions.

That is typical PR BS that basically says nothing at all because there is no telling what they consider a bad design decisions. You can assume that he is referring to non consentual PvP but he has given him enough legroom to deny that later down the line.

  dandurin

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6/26/13 5:40:17 PM#112
Originally posted by Ecoces

....

 however thats not good enough for the hardcore PVPers, apparently everyone has to be involved in the FFA PVP or else its not fun for them i guess.

 

I have heard the excuses of "oh the games suck if the PVP is just tacked on" so that should mean that those pure PVE'rs and Consensual PVPers fun should be ruined because of bad FFA PVP design?

I know what you're getting at, and it's a valid criticism of many, but at the same time, to be fair, "tacked-on" PVP IS decidedly suckier than designed-in PVP.

 

For instance, ArcheAge is a game that both intends to have very little random ganking due to prohibitive punishment, yet PVP is built into the game to such an extent that a "PVE server" really wouldn't make any sense.

 

PVE players don't have their fun ruined by legal ganking, but by de facto ganking.  Any system in which one is not constantly looking over their shoulder, regardless of why, should remain fun.

  djazzy

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6/26/13 5:42:24 PM#113
That statement could mean anything
  minttunator

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6/26/13 5:52:33 PM#114
The thread title is misleading, he didn't confirm anything one way or the other. In fact, the designer's response could be read to mean the opposite of what the OP assumes if we consider non-consensual PVP a good design decision. :)
  bcbully

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6/26/13 5:53:18 PM#115

Originally posted by Ecoces

....

 however thats not good enough for the hardcore PVPers, apparently everyone has to be involved in the FFA PVP or else its not fun for them i guess.

 

I have heard the excuses of "oh the games suck if the PVP is just tacked on" so that should mean that those pure PVE'rs and Consensual PVPers fun should be ruined because of bad FFA PVP design?

 

It's like you people think that in a FFA game everyone is running around killing everything. 

 

  furbans

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6/26/13 5:54:54 PM#116
Originally posted by Yamota
Originally posted by Khayotix
Originally posted by TheJoda
Not much really said at all.......You can read that 100's different ways.

It can only be read in the context of the question being answered. That is will it be forced on players who do not want it. The answer, That would be a poor design decision.

I understand people want to live in their little world of believing they are right, but that gets old when the truth hammer hits you and they still deny it.

No it does not. He said clearly that he specifically cannot comment on it and then made the general statement that they dont make bad design decisions.

That is typical PR BS that basically says nothing at all because there is no telling what they consider a bad design decisions. You can assume that he is referring to non consentual PvP but he has given him enough legroom to deny that later down the line.

It's not typical PR BS, it's actually the smart answer.  The great unveiling is on Aug 2nd and any game cannot and will not comment on any design that will have people go raging all over the internet, and extreme n intense n ridiculous raging there will be when this hot topic is finally answered.  No one isn't going to confirm nor deny any game mechanics until they do their press release or whatever PR event that they reveal it in.

  Kyleran

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6/26/13 5:58:08 PM#117

Anyone else see the irony of a SOE Developer, famous for SWG and some others making the statement that they avoid making bad design decisions?

I'd say as a company they are right up there at the top in this department.

 

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  furbans

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6/26/13 5:58:16 PM#118
Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by Ecoces

....

 however thats not good enough for the hardcore PVPers, apparently everyone has to be involved in the FFA PVP or else its not fun for them i guess.

 

I have heard the excuses of "oh the games suck if the PVP is just tacked on" so that should mean that those pure PVE'rs and Consensual PVPers fun should be ruined because of bad FFA PVP design?

 

It's like you people think that in a FFA game everyone is running around killing everything. 

 

Not everyone does this but all or most players that solo or really don't know the game get harassed by the players that do.  It comes back to that old saying of the few fuck it up for the rest.

  _redruM_

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6/26/13 5:58:24 PM#119
Originally posted by Khayotix
Originally posted by TheJoda
Not much really said at all.......You can read that 100's different ways.

It can only be read in the context of the question being answered. That is will it be forced on players who do not want it. The answer, That would be a poor design decision.

I understand people want to live in their little world of believing they are right, but that gets old when the truth hammer hits you and they still deny it.

You could also read it as "We avoid bad design decisions, but we know what we're doing and we don't believe this is one, so suck it up".

Anyway, I'd be disappointed if you're right.

  furbans

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6/26/13 6:02:52 PM#120
Originally posted by minttunator
The thread title is misleading, he didn't confirm anything one way or the other. In fact, the designer's response could be read to mean the opposite of what the OP assumes if we consider non-consensual PVP a good design decision. :)

The reason for the vagueness is simple.  They are not going to confirm or deny anything that will have people raging until they make a press release and show the system the have going for EQN as it can hurt their marketing.  It's really that simple. 

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