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  Proximo521

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OP  6/21/13 10:47:15 AM#1

Sup everyone!

Well, I will try to keep this short and sweet. Just like the title suggests, I am looking for people who had played FFXI for a while and would like to know their impressions of ARR. I have never played WoW so comparing this to WoW for me doesn't really help. I have played SWTOR but that was a long time ago and I haven't touch another MMO since. Plus I didn't like the game. I did have some high hopes for some titles but the one that I did play consistently was FFXI. Played for 4 years and it was an amazing experience! That being said, I am really curious to the impressions of this. I would like to pick up a MMO hobby and I want to feel the immersion that I did with FFXI. I should specify that I am not looking for FFXI and know FFXIV ARR will be different. Just curious if FFXIV ARR can do the same? I have read all of the impressions on MMORPG, Massively and the like but every article started to compare it to WoW. Which is fair. I know a lot of people played WoW but I have not. If you guys could provide me comparisons based on the below bullets would be greatly appreciated! HAPPY FRIDAY!

 

Rotoki

 

- Combat

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?)

- Crafting

- Overall feel

  Proximo521

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'Aren't you playing the Sorcerer's Apprentice?'

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OP  6/21/13 3:15:34 PM#2

Bump! Aww come on.. No on played FFXI then played FFXIV? I am very curious.

Thanks!

  Moodsor

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Joined: 6/16/06
Posts: 626

6/21/13 3:22:04 PM#3

I only have limited experience with FFXI, but to me the combat in FFXIV feels much better from what I did experience, it still needs a bit of work, but to me its a much better system, still not as fast as most themeparks, but with a few tweaks and limitbreaks it will be really interesting.

The world feels big, there is instancing between zones, but the zones are huge, and very beautiful, the graphics engine is simply the best ive ever seen in an MMO.

The crafting is very good, I made a post on these forums not long ago about crafting and gathering and why I think it might be the best in a themepark to date.

Overall I believe Yoshida and Square has performed a miracle with ARR, and I hope this is a sign of things to come.

  aesperus

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6/21/13 3:26:10 PM#4
Originally posted by Proximo521

Sup everyone!

***snip***

Rotoki

- Combat

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?)

- Crafting

- Overall feel

Combat:

This is probably where the game differs the most from FFXI. There are many similarities, but combat is a lot less micro based, it's simplified, and (so far) you don't need to discover new skills (you just get them from lvling up). Also, (and this is my biggest issue with combat atm) they removed the renkai system as far as i can tell. Limit breaks exist, but in a VERY dumbed down version. Atm there's only a couple limit breaks shared amongst the classes. Furthermore the meter is shared by the whole party, so if someone wastes it, its gone for the group.

Scale:

The scale of the world feels pretty large. The individual zones feel about the same (if not a little bigger) than they were in FFXI. The world atm def has less zones than FFXI, though. This is something that can definitely be expanded in the future, but atm each zone feels large, even though the world as a whole is a bit smaller.

Crafting:

This game removes the whole weather based mechanics from the game. In this way crafting is simplified from FFXI. However it's also more skill-based, and less RNG. I actually really enjoy the crafting, even though I feel like it needs an option to batch-craft. Trying to craft stacks of ingots 1by1 is very annoying.

Overall feel:

I'm really enjoying the game. It is a bit streamlined, but it's still a very fun experience. There are some things I hope they miss, but on the whole I think I will be buying this one. We'll see how I feel by phase 4, though.

  BeansnBread

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 5551

6/21/13 3:28:24 PM#5

Could you instantly teleport anywhere in the world that you had visited for a fee in FFXI? Because you can do that in FFXIV. It feels somewhat like GW2 if you have ever played that. You just pay a small fee and port from anywhere in the world to a crystal (usually one of them in each zone).

 

Edit: I just realized that I wasn't clear about referring to the scale of the world. To me, it doesn't feel very large. But I'm only level 22.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  DarkVergil

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Joined: 2/07/06
Posts: 84

6/21/13 3:28:52 PM#6

This game pales in comparison to the original FFXI (Before it went casual mode.)

The adventure delivered from FFXI 2004-2007 was simply unparalled by any mmorpg to date.

 

Vanilla/BC WoW might be a slight contender.

  Kuppa

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6/21/13 3:29:28 PM#7
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Proximo521

Sup everyone!

***snip***

Rotoki

- Combat

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?)

- Crafting

- Overall feel

Combat:

This is probably where the game differs the most from FFXI. There are many similarities, but combat is a lot less micro based, it's simplified, and (so far) you don't need to discover new skills (you just get them from lvling up). Also, (and this is my biggest issue with combat atm) they removed the renkai system as far as i can tell. Limit breaks exist, but in a VERY dumbed down version. Atm there's only a couple limit breaks shared amongst the classes. Furthermore the meter is shared by the whole party, so if someone wastes it, its gone for the group.

Scale:

The scale of the world feels pretty large. The individual zones feel about the same (if not a little bigger) than they were in FFXI. The world atm def has less zones than FFXI, though. This is something that can definitely be expanded in the future, but atm each zone feels large, even though the world as a whole is a bit smaller.

Crafting:

This game removes the whole weather based mechanics from the game. In this way crafting is simplified from FFXI. However it's also more skill-based, and less RNG. I actually really enjoy the crafting, even though I feel like it needs an option to batch-craft. Trying to craft stacks of ingots 1by1 is very annoying.

Overall feel:

I'm really enjoying the game. It is a bit streamlined, but it's still a very fun experience. There are some things I hope they miss, but on the whole I think I will be buying this one. We'll see how I feel by phase 4, though.

That was actually very insightful! 


  Lord.Bachus

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6/21/13 3:30:27 PM#8
Originally posted by Proximo521

Sup everyone!

Well, I will try to keep this short and sweet. Just like the title suggests, I am looking for people who had played FFXI for a while and would like to know their impressions of ARR. I have never played WoW so comparing this to WoW for me doesn't really help. I have played SWTOR but that was a long time ago and I haven't touch another MMO since. Plus I didn't like the game. I did have some high hopes for some titles but the one that I did play consistently was FFXI. Played for 4 years and it was an amazing experience! That being said, I am really curious to the impressions of this. I would like to pick up a MMO hobby and I want to feel the immersion that I did with FFXI. I should specify that I am not looking for FFXI and know FFXIV ARR will be different. Just curious if FFXIV ARR can do the same? I have read all of the impressions on MMORPG, Massively and the like but every article started to compare it to WoW. Which is fair. I know a lot of people played WoW but I have not. If you guys could provide me comparisons based on the below bullets would be greatly appreciated! HAPPY FRIDAY!

 

Rotoki

 

- Combat.     very dull, slow, worst mob ai ever 

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?) what world feeling? There was no npc interaction at all, the world felt like a death place, all zones where much to small with no cohesion

- Crafting sorry there, never even got to try it, 

- Overall feel see my sinature

While this is my opinion, it should probably have changed a lot when you hear current beta testers,  tough i am still angry at them for releasing it in such a bad state

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  DarkVergil

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Joined: 2/07/06
Posts: 84

6/21/13 3:34:02 PM#9
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Proximo521

Sup everyone!

Well, I will try to keep this short and sweet. Just like the title suggests, I am looking for people who had played FFXI for a while and would like to know their impressions of ARR. I have never played WoW so comparing this to WoW for me doesn't really help. I have played SWTOR but that was a long time ago and I haven't touch another MMO since. Plus I didn't like the game. I did have some high hopes for some titles but the one that I did play consistently was FFXI. Played for 4 years and it was an amazing experience! That being said, I am really curious to the impressions of this. I would like to pick up a MMO hobby and I want to feel the immersion that I did with FFXI. I should specify that I am not looking for FFXI and know FFXIV ARR will be different. Just curious if FFXIV ARR can do the same? I have read all of the impressions on MMORPG, Massively and the like but every article started to compare it to WoW. Which is fair. I know a lot of people played WoW but I have not. If you guys could provide me comparisons based on the below bullets would be greatly appreciated! HAPPY FRIDAY!

 

Rotoki

 

- Combat.     very dull, slow, worst mob ai ever 

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?) what world feeling? There was no npc interaction at all, the world felt like a death place, all zones where much to small with no cohesion

- Crafting sorry there, never even got to try it, 

- Overall feel see my sinature

While this is my opinion, it should probably have changed a lot when you hear current beta testers,  tough i am still angry at them for releasing it in such a bad state

He wants you to compare FFXI to FFXIV ARR not FFXIV 1.0 to FFXIV ARR

  Moodsor

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Joined: 6/16/06
Posts: 626

6/21/13 3:35:31 PM#10
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Proximo521

Sup everyone!

Well, I will try to keep this short and sweet. Just like the title suggests, I am looking for people who had played FFXI for a while and would like to know their impressions of ARR. I have never played WoW so comparing this to WoW for me doesn't really help. I have played SWTOR but that was a long time ago and I haven't touch another MMO since. Plus I didn't like the game. I did have some high hopes for some titles but the one that I did play consistently was FFXI. Played for 4 years and it was an amazing experience! That being said, I am really curious to the impressions of this. I would like to pick up a MMO hobby and I want to feel the immersion that I did with FFXI. I should specify that I am not looking for FFXI and know FFXIV ARR will be different. Just curious if FFXIV ARR can do the same? I have read all of the impressions on MMORPG, Massively and the like but every article started to compare it to WoW. Which is fair. I know a lot of people played WoW but I have not. If you guys could provide me comparisons based on the below bullets would be greatly appreciated! HAPPY FRIDAY!

 

Rotoki

 

- Combat.     very dull, slow, worst mob ai ever 

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?) what world feeling? There was no npc interaction at all, the world felt like a death place, all zones where much to small with no cohesion

- Crafting sorry there, never even got to try it, 

- Overall feel see my sinature

While this is my opinion, it should probably have changed a lot when you hear current beta testers,  tough i am still angry at them for releasing it in such a bad state

Im guessing you are refering to 1.0 there? If so I 100% agree with you.

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

6/21/13 3:38:44 PM#11
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Proximo521

Sup everyone!

Well, I will try to keep this short and sweet. Just like the title suggests, I am looking for people who had played FFXI for a while and would like to know their impressions of ARR. I have never played WoW so comparing this to WoW for me doesn't really help. I have played SWTOR but that was a long time ago and I haven't touch another MMO since. Plus I didn't like the game. I did have some high hopes for some titles but the one that I did play consistently was FFXI. Played for 4 years and it was an amazing experience! That being said, I am really curious to the impressions of this. I would like to pick up a MMO hobby and I want to feel the immersion that I did with FFXI. I should specify that I am not looking for FFXI and know FFXIV ARR will be different. Just curious if FFXIV ARR can do the same? I have read all of the impressions on MMORPG, Massively and the like but every article started to compare it to WoW. Which is fair. I know a lot of people played WoW but I have not. If you guys could provide me comparisons based on the below bullets would be greatly appreciated! HAPPY FRIDAY!

Rotoki

- Combat.     very dull, slow, worst mob ai ever 

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?) what world feeling? There was no npc interaction at all, the world felt like a death place, all zones where much to small with no cohesion

- Crafting sorry there, never even got to try it, 

- Overall feel see my sinature

While this is my opinion, it should probably have changed a lot when you hear current beta testers,  tough i am still angry at them for releasing it in such a bad state

Dude I didn't get ANY of the same insights as you.

It feels a lot like FFXI to me, but much, much easier to get into and actually enjoy.

It's Final Fantasy, so it's all about the stories, the characters, and the locations.

Thus far, from the very limited amount I've seen, the game just bleeds Final Fantasy.

Thus far I'd say this-

If WoW came in and removed a lot of the tedium and annoying time sinks from EQ-

FFXIV comes in and removes a lot of the tedium and annoying time sinks of FFXI.

That's the best I can put it.

I never played FFXIV before ARR.

It's certainly not WoW with a FF skin. It feels a lot more "old school" than WoW currently does, a lot like WoW did back in the Vanilla/BC days, but does contain many of the more "modern" conveniences.

Now Playing: Destiny

  ZizouX

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6/21/13 3:44:34 PM#12
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Proximo521

Sup everyone!

Well, I will try to keep this short and sweet. Just like the title suggests, I am looking for people who had played FFXI for a while and would like to know their impressions of ARR. I have never played WoW so comparing this to WoW for me doesn't really help. I have played SWTOR but that was a long time ago and I haven't touch another MMO since. Plus I didn't like the game. I did have some high hopes for some titles but the one that I did play consistently was FFXI. Played for 4 years and it was an amazing experience! That being said, I am really curious to the impressions of this. I would like to pick up a MMO hobby and I want to feel the immersion that I did with FFXI. I should specify that I am not looking for FFXI and know FFXIV ARR will be different. Just curious if FFXIV ARR can do the same? I have read all of the impressions on MMORPG, Massively and the like but every article started to compare it to WoW. Which is fair. I know a lot of people played WoW but I have not. If you guys could provide me comparisons based on the below bullets would be greatly appreciated! HAPPY FRIDAY!

Rotoki

- Combat.     very dull, slow, worst mob ai ever 

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?) what world feeling? There was no npc interaction at all, the world felt like a death place, all zones where much to small with no cohesion

- Crafting sorry there, never even got to try it, 

- Overall feel see my sinature

While this is my opinion, it should probably have changed a lot when you hear current beta testers,  tough i am still angry at them for releasing it in such a bad state

Dude I didn't get ANY of the same insights as you.

It feels a lot like FFXI to me, but much, much easier to get into and actually enjoy.

It's Final Fantasy, so it's all about the stories, the characters, and the locations.

Thus far, from the very limited amount I've seen, the game just bleeds Final Fantasy.

Thus far I'd say this-

If WoW came in and removed a lot of the tedium and annoying time sinks from EQ-

FFXIV comes in and removes a lot of the tedium and annoying time sinks of FFXI.

That's the best I can put it.

I never played FFXIV before ARR.

It's certainly not WoW with a FF skin. It feels a lot more "old school" than WoW currently does, a lot like WoW did back in the Vanilla/BC days, but does contain many of the more "modern" conveniences.

+1 Extremely well articulated.  I completely agree but couldn't put my mind to it until you explained it the way you did.  I played FFXI for 2 years, Wow for 4 (on and off).

  MGPeterson

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6/21/13 3:47:24 PM#13
Save your money.  Final Fantasy MMO titles always have and always will suck.

  drivendawn

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6/21/13 4:12:48 PM#14
Originally posted by MGPeterson
Save your money.  Final Fantasy MMO titles always have and always will suck.

You know what they say opinions are like right? Well I would say the tons of people that have played FF MMO's over the last 10 plus years disagree.

  Moodsor

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6/21/13 4:14:25 PM#15
Originally posted by MGPeterson
Save your money.  Final Fantasy MMO titles always have and always will suck.

Save your posts, they always have and always will suck.

  Homitu

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6/21/13 4:16:30 PM#16

I haven't done enough in the beta yet to make any valid comparisons, but you probably wouldn't want my opinion anyway as I don't have much good to say about FFXI :p  

I actually feel that the original FF14 failed largely because it continued to utilize some of FFXI's archaic systems, which, in this more modern era, proved simply unacceptable to most players.  They were at least *acceptable* back in 2003 (which is when I played, up until shortly after the release of Treasures of Aht Urghan in 2006), but just didn't cut it for an ever more homogenized MMO crowd in 2011.  

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6/21/13 4:38:37 PM#17

Combat is not as good as FFXI but then neither is any other game.On your first class combat will feel very Wowish.bland but as you get more classes it will be a lot better.

World  oh yes it is big ,i have actually got nowhere yet in this my second Beta all because i am getting lost looking for things.

I have not done crafting,need some currency to be able to buy my tools.

Overall feel is they 100% got cold feet on losing money and have tried to make it a WOW/mainstream type game.Markers on NPC's quest xp easy combat.However after you get past the noob mobs,you run into some bigger cooler looking stuff like the Giant crabs.I think what i am saying is you  get relatively the same experience as other games but better visuals.If you understand FFXI entirely you will realize it is VERY hard to match that game's depth.

Also you should remember this game is not near finished,another 6-12 months you might see the real finished product before they begin expansions.I will go on a limb and predict Samurai in first expansion.

Also it is MUCH better than FFXI's recent crap like Abyssea and the newest xpac "Seekers of Adoulin" really turned me off.IMO that is not right either,no question they are leeching money from the loyal FFXI fan base to support FFXIV.

I am ready to support  this game,but mark my words if i see the same xpac as i see in Seekers ,i will run for the doors very quickly.A quick run down...Seekers no doors or insides on 95% of the buildings,FFXIV yes they are all done properly.Maps in seekers are blocked off to create time sinks and basically make it annoying,FFXIV the maps are more open than vanilla FFXI.City travel in FFXI is actually much easier,FFXIV city travel is cumbersome even with the warps.

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  Lord.Bachus

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6/21/13 4:44:02 PM#18
Originally posted by Moodsor
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Proximo521

Sup everyone!

Well, I will try to keep this short and sweet. Just like the title suggests, I am looking for people who had played FFXI for a while and would like to know their impressions of ARR. I have never played WoW so comparing this to WoW for me doesn't really help. I have played SWTOR but that was a long time ago and I haven't touch another MMO since. Plus I didn't like the game. I did have some high hopes for some titles but the one that I did play consistently was FFXI. Played for 4 years and it was an amazing experience! That being said, I am really curious to the impressions of this. I would like to pick up a MMO hobby and I want to feel the immersion that I did with FFXI. I should specify that I am not looking for FFXI and know FFXIV ARR will be different. Just curious if FFXIV ARR can do the same? I have read all of the impressions on MMORPG, Massively and the like but every article started to compare it to WoW. Which is fair. I know a lot of people played WoW but I have not. If you guys could provide me comparisons based on the below bullets would be greatly appreciated! HAPPY FRIDAY!

 

Rotoki

 

- Combat.     very dull, slow, worst mob ai ever 

- Scale of the World (Does it feel like you have a long way to go?) what world feeling? There was no npc interaction at all, the world felt like a death place, all zones where much to small with no cohesion

- Crafting sorry there, never even got to try it, 

- Overall feel see my sinature

While this is my opinion, it should probably have changed a lot when you hear current beta testers,  tough i am still angry at them for releasing it in such a bad state

Im guessing you are refering to 1.0 there? If so I 100% agree with you.

To much beer i guess, i really missread, i was referring to 1.0 and not to XI which was actually quite fun untill i got tired of the grind

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

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OP  6/21/13 5:26:25 PM#19

Seriously... Awesome stuff guys! I really really appreciate the efforts and the time you guys put into answering my questions. To be quite honest.. I bought the CE and I somehow convinced my old buddies from FFXI to buy it also. I mean come on when you get past Sky and get the Aht Urghan armor we were done. We played all the expansions up to when the Aht Urghan expansion came out. So, in short I had some pissed friends for a long time. We have been playing Battlefield and mainly have been staying away from MMO's but.. If you guys loved FFXI like we did it was hard to want to play anything else. First love syndrome? Possibly. In either case, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS!

Good luck and hope to you guys in game!

 

Rotoki/Proximo

  Jockan

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6/21/13 5:28:26 PM#20
Best mmo released in the last 10 years.

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