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6/19/13 5:05:54 PM#41

It's great to see that the public still has a voice against this kind of shit if they manage to speak up loudly.

So three rounds of applause for the people who did their best to sway opinions!

Now to anticipate their next foul moves though :p

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6/19/13 5:07:26 PM#42

Smart move Microsoft, you just saved your new baby from going down in a flaming pile of shit.  I tip my hat to the gamers who raged enough to get this fixed.

Still not buying one though lol.  I don't like a camera watching and listening to everything I do 24/7.

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6/19/13 5:10:37 PM#43
Originally posted by Vannor
I'm still getting a PS4.. they only did this because they had no choice. This wasn't because they wanted what was best for the gamers, this has happened because they realised they were digging their own grave.

Exactly, nothings really changed here. I'm still boycotting the xbox1. They are still making the system to be all about making money rather then performance or quality.


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6/19/13 5:11:17 PM#44
Originally posted by bingbongbros

I don't like a camera watching and listening to everything I do 24/7.

You got a smart phone? They do that too you know.

Still don't buy an X1 though. :)


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6/19/13 5:12:46 PM#45
Smart move Microsoft, but I'm still not getting your console, its bad enough having to use your operating system...

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6/19/13 5:14:11 PM#46
You guys are just sad.  Whine and cry about all that crap most of which is already being done on PC games.  Internet connection required, cant sell, etc etc.  Now MS goes ahead and changes course and your still whining and crying.  Move on already sad plain sad some people are.  

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6/19/13 5:15:55 PM#47
Originally posted by XAleX360

I'm very surprised, but they just did it.

Aye, very smart move on their part.

They've actually been reversing quite a few of their decisions, DRM of course being the largest one.


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6/19/13 5:15:57 PM#48
Originally posted by Althewiseguy


Too little too late. If they can switch their policies at a whim once they can do it again. Damage is done. 

This is my thought on it. Not that I was planning on getting a X1 anyway, but if I was, I would be concerned that they would re-implement those features after initial sales of the unit. With everything digital on the box, its only a matter of them "flicking a switch" on their side anyway once the sheep shell out their money.


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6/19/13 5:16:27 PM#49
Originally posted by Dahkoht

So I read this as the PS4 is.....


Still cheaper

Still better technical specs

Still allows you to upgrade your own harddrive.


Why exactly would I want the Xbox 180 ?


This. Also Xbox One still requires every game to fully install although the disk is required to play, Kinect is also still mandatory.


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6/19/13 5:17:31 PM#50
Originally posted by Saryhl

Microsoft didn't do it because they are listening to gamer/fan sentiment. They did this because they didn't want their sales absolutely curb stomped by Sony. It is all about money, you can only ever bet on Microsoft for that.

Alas most gamers are not forgiving. So they will still be hurt and disgusted and I fear it may have been too late for damage control. Time will tell.

Of course they did it for the bottom line.  That is what listening to your customers does.  Do you think Sony is doing this because they care about you?  They're marketing what they think they can get away with (the new fee for playing online games) and trying to present a picture that they're on your side.  Sony has way better marketing than Microsoft.  The Blu-Ray wars illustrates that.

The fact that Blu-Ray got chosen over HD disks also shows that Sony cares more about their bottom line than they do about the consumer.

Are you sure gamers aren't forgiving?  Sony planted root kits in their discs that infected a lot of people.  The backlash was enormous.  Sony didn't keep their server infrastructure patched and secure and left themselves open to attack exposing tens of millions of users personal information.  Now with the PS4 launch we've forgiven and forgotten.  Most gamers are something alright, but unforgiving isn't one of those things.

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6/19/13 5:20:24 PM#51
Ohh wow. They could not take the pressure in a field where they actually have competition. They would be able to get away with this crap with their OS, not here. I still don't know how they thought this and the many other stupid decisions they have taken for xbox one would fly at all...


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6/19/13 5:28:39 PM#52

Hey usually don't log in and post unless I am very passionate about the issue, Lets just start off by saying at the end of the day its all just video games, people are starving and what so lets not start a whole shitstorm but....


I can not tolerate this. For the past 9 days since they announced this(not really they just kinda said o ya drm, 24 hrs, never really announced it, people had to DIG for it, shows they are snakes) they have been defiant to say the least. They said o you guys are wrong you will see yadada...... its "future proof".. so on so forth. Even up until yesterday on late night on fallen defending there crap policys ( Then the next day come out saying O we were wrong, they didn't even say they were wrong infact, just said "listening to the customer". No offence to you people but are you retarded, they will get all these sales now, THEN add the restrictions, and dont someone come and say thats not allowed they can't do that, they can do whatever they want, and will most likely have something like that in their TOS that they can infact add it. Also you STILL need internet to activate the xbox for the first time, I DO have to admit this is better but 5-6 billion people still dont have internet (, but yet they say 2/3rds had internet.... they said this 2 days ago (, just goes to show they are in there own bubble. Also they showed pc games at E3, It even crashed during the show to desktop. All of this issues connect because how misleading and untrustworthy they are,  they are and only care for your cash, not you, and you better believe it. They can't completely bash people and say no we are right, then come out the next day and say O yeah we are changing all of this.

And on another note The 360 is an amazing console, I have also hated Ps3 fanboys because although the ps3 ain't crap, the 360 was ahead of its time, really lead the online gaming movement IMO. Also The Xbox one is a better console, not spec wise, but feature wise, and microsoft has more deals, connections and what not, but I refuse to deal with these people, they think they are the next apple (Apple did whatever they wanted and it still sold) and have some gods gift

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6/19/13 5:32:39 PM#53

lol, where is Mannish to tell us how awesome these features were and how much they will be missed by Xbox One fans oO... 


I'm actually surprised myself. Microsoft doesn't tend to wise'n up very fast or very often. It is a good move and one that may put them back on the map depending on how many actually see the changes. 



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6/19/13 5:32:51 PM#54
Originally posted by fayknaym
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by fayknaym
I'm surprised but also a bit disappointed. I know this is something that there was a lot of outcry over but their online only system did allow for some unique features that wouldn't be available to other consoles, such as sharing you library of games with people on your friends list and their "cloud based" game features. Disappointing to see that's not the case anymore. Not that I had any interest in xbox in the first place, I just thought the sharing was a really cool and distinguishing feature. I don't know what is the point of xbox now. Just a ps4 reskin. 

PS4 has a superior cloud based game feature its called Gaikai

I thought Gaikai was just streaming games? How I understood the xbox cloud system, was that since you were always online, the games would actually change the way they play based on the data they were receiving from the server. Like they showed a racing game called forza and they said the AI you were racing against would adjust based on information obtained from the "cloud." Or maybe I'm just misunderstanding. I still think the sharing thing was cool. The online restriction was necessary for it to work because you were only allowed to share with a certain number of people at a time or only a certain amount of people could play it at one time, so it would need to periodically check that. 

You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is, 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia.' But only slightly less well known is this! 'The word 'Cloud' means 'A remote server that could be sitting in a closet or in a multi-million dollar datacenter and you'll never know which!'.


There is nothing 'magical' about the "cloud". It's all data sitting or moving through a remote server or servers somewhere. That's been going on for decades. We used to call them 'File servers' or 'Application servers'.




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6/19/13 5:35:21 PM#55

It's still a piece of crap compared to the PS4 and this is nothing but:

"Ok, we realize we where going to loose millions upon millions with all of our plans for it so....there!  PLEASE BUY IT!!!"

Don't forget, that's not the ONLY reason people where face palming/raging at it..


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6/19/13 5:41:43 PM#56
Originally posted by Jadedangel1
Originally posted by Althewiseguy


Too little too late. If they can switch their policies at a whim once they can do it again. Damage is done. 

This is my thought on it. Not that I was planning on getting a X1 anyway, but if I was, I would be concerned that they would re-implement those features after initial sales of the unit. With everything digital on the box, its only a matter of them "flicking a switch" on their side anyway once the sheep shell out their money.

I'd be exactly the same. But you will find those out there now who are thinking... "Yay! now am gonna buy x1 coz dey changed it".

They will change their policy over the few years like they have done for the 360. People don't realize they're being conned, you can do more than what an xbox can on the PC and its cheaper with no extra internet fees.


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6/19/13 5:43:18 PM#57
in the end though the intent has not changed only their delivery. I imagine DRM will still make its way onto xbone just Instead of of ring there at launch it will be introduced gradually in patches. They still want to do it, now they are just changing the way they achieve that goal.

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6/19/13 5:44:48 PM#58
Originally posted by Vannor
Originally posted by bingbongbros

I don't like a camera watching and listening to everything I do 24/7.

You got a smart phone? They do that too you know.

Still don't buy an X1 though. :)

oh snap!  *smashes Droid with a hammer*

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6/19/13 5:45:51 PM#59

I hope people still wont buy it they tried to screw over the gamers and lost but that doesn't mean they deserve our money. show microsoft that they can't do this stupid crap and get away with it


buy a difference console.


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6/19/13 5:46:32 PM#60
Originally posted by TheCrow2k
in the end though the intent has not changed only their delivery. I imagine DRM will still make its way onto xbone just Instead of of ring there at launch it will be introduced gradually in patches. They still want to do it, now they are just changing the way they achieve that goal.

DRM will snake it's way onto consoles but it will be the third party game publisher's doing will be your choice to buy games doing it or not.

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