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6/19/13 2:04:44 PM#41
The only mmorpg's to date that have made me use my brain at all is firstly and mostly  EvE. Next is Anarchy onlines skill system  when I was being tort how to twink and realised how deep it actually was. Also an honarble mention to Age Of Wushu as I had to google a few things I couldn't make sense of or understand.  For deep experiances I would say TSW sucked me right in when I first played it. I literally lived in WoW for about four years, never have I been lost inside a game like that.


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6/19/13 2:14:41 PM#42

I would give swg intricate because of it's crafting system but imo it had all the depth of a puddle. I don't think giving the players a blank piece of paper and having them write one of the greatest stories ever told qualifies the game itself as a great writer.

Most of the great things that went on in game were because of the people playing, not because they were doing something the game provided for you. Then again I don't think sandboxes in general are very deep because it would detract from the players ability to build their own world.

One of the best games ever made though.

I guess deep is going to be different for everyone. To me deep comes from the story they try and tell and how well they implement it into the game and make you a part of it.

For stories I'd like to say city of heroes had some of the best. It took some effort to get involved and follow the stories but the wholes arcs ran throughout the entire game....of course it's combat and mission could be quite shallow but it was still one of those games I became very into.


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6/19/13 2:19:15 PM#43

1. Star Wars Galaxies - the crafting and economy were the best that ever appeared in any MMO. Before the Combat Upgrade, you could be a non-combat tradeskill character and set up stores on most of the planets and sell the items you created. You put harvesters on the same planets to collect the highest quality materials to make the stuff. It was an awesome system and I still miss it. After the "combat upgrade", if you didn't have some sort of combat skills, going to your stores/workshops in bad areas on some planets was suicide (and that "patch" pretty much made a lot of the best crafted items obsolete).


2. The Secret World - currently playing. The mix of straight forward quests (kill, gather, turn in) with investigation missions (some REALLY complex puzzles) and the sabotage missions (covert > combat, sneak around, steal stuff, set traps, avoid guards) gives any play style something to enjoy.


3. Eve Online -- I only played the game for about 6 weeks but it will give "casual" gamers a migraine (1.5 years ago, it may have softened some of it's hard edges by now). The training of your character took weeks and months to complete, you'd start a training level and log off. After the listed amount of time, you'd be certified in that ability. Tier 3-5 training took forever and it was consecutive, not concurrent, so you could queue up a given amount of training time and when the time limit was filled, you couldn't queue any more abilities and then... go on vacation. Each skill would have to complete in it's entirety before the next queued training session would begin. By the end of the time I played, I had stopped flying missions or mining and just logged in every day or so to check my training queue and then I'd log off and watch TV.



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6/19/13 3:45:20 PM#44
Asherons Call for sure.

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6/19/13 3:50:46 PM#45
Most people will say it's not an MMO, but for me it was Guild Wars: Prophecies- Eye of the North. Loved how level cap was only 20 and most of the game happened after you hit 20. Also loved them adding the PvP only characters so you could jump right into PvP if you wanted to and ignore the PvE stuff. The different builds that you could come up with in both PvP and PvE were always evolving also.


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6/19/13 3:54:59 PM#46

1.  Star Wars Galaxies (Pre NGE of course) -  also needs to be prior to Jedi being released, once they made it a quest the game slowly died.

2.  EQ1 - Can you say Epic quest that was actually Epic?

3.  I like TSW if only for the open class system and the fact its not another effin fantasy game.


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OP  6/19/13 4:44:22 PM#48
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by 7imelord

I recently fell out of Star Trek Online and what a great experience I had coming back after 3 years, however after 6 months of game play it got repetitive once you got to 50 then the hamster wheel kicked in when grinding "Romulan marks, Omega marks and now they got a new faction one to add to them other 2 for weapons and gear".


You already have fun going from 1-50 and it entertains you for 6 months. Why complain? TO me, you "finish" the game.

I am still in the middle of it .. and i don't see why i should not play it on and off .. and enjoy the leveling story missions.


Getting to 1 to 50 can be done considerable fast, especially if you do the episodes. However running the same episodes 3 times can get kind of old, but at least you see the episodes sometimes differently with the optional story arc if you were a science, tactical or engineer of either fed, kdf or romulan.

Once you hit 50 the game opens up to "Mark runs on each character you have created". Don't get me wrong, I love the many configurations that STO can dish out for each one of their spacecrafts, however decking out multiple ships with either plasma, antiproton, phasers etc etc can get old and very expensive if your into zen ships.

Yeah you can just say I am going to concentrate more so on my ground game and grind marks to make your ground crew elite, but you can also do so many configurations of the same thing. What it comes down to is just grinding reputation marks to build either a space or ground set.

Where is the exploration in STO? TO discover new worlds and new civilizations. To boldy go where no one has gone before just isn't there. I don't want to sound like a hypocrite, but I love the game enough to play it for 6 months, but it does get old after awhile and some like myself need to break away from it.

Star Trek Online is complicated at 1st if your starting out, but after about 1 to 2 weeks concentrating on the game, it gets quite simple, especially doing the game with in the game by either doff missions continuously or doing foundry missions created by other players.



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OP  6/19/13 4:50:53 PM#49
Originally posted by FinalFikus

1. Starquest

2. Wurm

3. Shores OF Hazeron

4. Eve

5. SWG

6. UO

7. Xyson

8. Uranus

9. EQ

10. WOWza


5 out of the 10 you just named, I recognized and were quite complex, the other 5 must have been very independent mmo's or kept below the radar when they were released. 


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6/19/13 4:52:55 PM#50

Final Fantasy 11

Ultima Online

Soon to be FFXIV ARR


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6/20/13 7:11:23 AM#51
  1. Swtor
  2. Wow
  3. TSW (even if played for short)

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6/20/13 7:43:54 AM#53
Asherons Call

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6/20/13 8:06:55 AM#54
Originally posted by aiemageek
I would have to say EVE. It had a vicious learning curve and was a lot of fun. I only stopped because eventually it felt like a second job.

In my experience too. Eve trumps the other's I've played. 4 years and 3 accounts to support the habit.


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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

6/20/13 10:11:12 AM#55



I invested a lot more than time and money in that game.  I had friends, romantic relationships, enemies.  I remember having screamed once or twice at my roommate to leave me the hell alone while he was calling me an addict.  Lol, good times!  That game shaped the way I think about gaming and still shows up in my dreams.  It also bred a lot of bitterness I have toward the mmo world.  I never want to pay a sub just have it all taken away from me in the end because the devs do something so obviously stupid you wonder if they are sane - like charging me for a chocobo summon whistle when I bred and raised that bird.

Best console game: DD Dark Arisen. Best mmo: GW2. Best game series ever: The Sims.


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6/20/13 10:18:53 AM#56

Anarchy Online! My first and only true love, nothing since has ever been as good.



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6/20/13 10:22:33 AM#57

1) Vanguard

2) SWG

3) ArcheAge - played 2 months KR


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6/20/13 10:25:12 AM#58
Everquest personaly

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6/20/13 10:27:41 AM#59


At this point in it's life you will still feel like a newbie after years playing.  There is just so much to the game it would be difficult to learn it all.



This was a very deep game but I didn't even scrape the surface as I quit about 6 months in.  I quit as I was too much of a solo player at the time and the game was not a very solo friendly/exciting game.


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OP  6/20/13 9:06:21 PM#60
Originally posted by Mardukk


At this point in it's life you will still feel like a newbie after years playing.  There is just so much to the game it would be difficult to learn it all.



This was a very deep game but I didn't even scrape the surface as I quit about 6 months in.  I quit as I was too much of a solo player at the time and the game was not a very solo friendly/exciting game.

Evercrack was my 2nd mmorpg to ever grace the field of play and yeah, it was difficult back in them days 2002 - 2003 for me till SWG came around.

I remember my brother showing me his newbie armor on this bard and thought it was the sweetest thing I ever seen, especially him playing this character actually online with me. I remember making fish rolls (i think) for plat and man, did I ever make alot of them for spending money.

Oh my, how times have changed since them mmo's to what we got now as our mmo's. Even back then they had depth and unforgiving penalties whether ic was corpse running for 10 minutes to get to your body or your composite armor in swg get chewed all to hell to find a crafter to make some quality gear and weapons for you in SWG.

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