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General Discussion  » [Poll] If EQ Next turns out to be just another overhyped game on MMORPG.com

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  Benedikt

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6/17/13 12:32:22 PM#41
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Benedikt

Originally posted by Foomerang So lets say August comes and we find out that EQ Next isnt the epic sandbox we were lead to believe. What if all the features that Bill saw were not actually implemented in the game yet and was simply a list of planned features they want to do.  
thats one pretty tendentious poll - no "positive" or even neutral choice.

 

 

if we find out that EQ Next isnt the epic sandbox we were lead to believe i will just forget and continue playing games i do now, while looking forward to other interesting possibilities


 

Same here. But it is interesting to see what we are willing to let slide regarding journalistic integrity and accountability.

only it doesnt have anything at all to do with journalistic integrity and accountability - they expressed their opinion. they could have wrote that eqnext is the best game ever and the most fabulous thing since invention of electricity and it would still be just that - their opinion. and that's something everyone has right to. you behave like they were paid to write it, which i strongly doubt.

  Iselin

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6/17/13 12:34:17 PM#42
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Sovrath

So people should take a deep breath, lower your godly expectations and realize that the game can very well be "a good" sandbox and let it lie at that.

That wouldn't imply rectal leakage or loss of bowel control, right?

A reasonable level of expectation is maintained by a reasonable level of rhetoric.

Well, that "Depends"

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  Murugan

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6/17/13 12:38:22 PM#43
Originally posted by Benedikt
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Benedikt

Originally posted by Foomerang So lets say August comes and we find out that EQ Next isnt the epic sandbox we were lead to believe. What if all the features that Bill saw were not actually implemented in the game yet and was simply a list of planned features they want to do.  
thats one pretty tendentious poll - no "positive" or even neutral choice.

 

 

if we find out that EQ Next isnt the epic sandbox we were lead to believe i will just forget and continue playing games i do now, while looking forward to other interesting possibilities


 

Same here. But it is interesting to see what we are willing to let slide regarding journalistic integrity and accountability.

only it doesnt have anything at all to do with journalistic integrity and accountability - they expressed they opinion. they could have wrote that eqnext is the best game ever and the most fabulous thing since invention of electricity and it would still be just that - their opinion. and that something everyone has right to. you behave like they were paid to write it, which i strongly doubt.

No one is saying Bill should go to jail for what we did.

 

We are just saying his articles are garbage, and not worth reading unless you put stock into baseless claims of grandeur.  Most "awards" and "reviews" and even "previews" generally contain actual information which are used to back up opinions.  But you are right, it is just Bill's opinion.  No substance at all.

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  Foomerang

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OP  6/17/13 12:41:29 PM#44


Originally posted by Benedikt

Originally posted by Foomerang  

Originally posted by Benedikt

Originally posted by Foomerang So lets say August comes and we find out that EQ Next isnt the epic sandbox we were lead to believe. What if all the features that Bill saw were not actually implemented in the game yet and was simply a list of planned features they want to do.  
thats one pretty tendentious poll - no "positive" or even neutral choice.     if we find out that EQ Next isnt the epic sandbox we were lead to believe i will just forget and continue playing games i do now, while looking forward to other interesting possibilities
  Same here. But it is interesting to see what we are willing to let slide regarding journalistic integrity and accountability.
only it doesnt have anything at all to do with journalistic integrity and accountability - they expressed they opinion. they could have wrote that eqnext is the best game ever and the most fabulous thing since invention of electricity and it would still be just that - their opinion. and that something everyone has right to. you behave like they were paid to write it, which i strongly doubt.


They are in fact paid to write this stuff. Of course they are not paid directly from game publishers. But they are on payroll for writing about video games. It is in fact journalism. And there is definitely an expectation of journalistic integrity and accountability in regards to reading a video game news site with paid writers and their columns regarding said video games.


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  Roguewiz

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6/17/13 12:44:27 PM#45

I normally ignore the hype on this site.  I mainly look here for announcements and reviews (which It take with a grain of salt).

Not knocking the site, mind you.  As a fan site, it is one of the best.  Their article are normally great.  However, everyone has an opinion on how a game should be.

With that being said, EQ Next!!!!!!

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  Bad.dog

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6/17/13 12:48:38 PM#46
Originally posted by ichihaifu
Originally posted by Arakazi
Remember the hype about SWTOR, GW2, AoC and a whole host of other games?

Hype is a good thing, hyperbole isnt.

Besides GW2 lived up to its hype, not just for most people.

Can't imagine anyone who enjoys playing any game caring much about the hype or the hate for any game on this site ....MMORPG.com just gives an overview of any game and never once have they twisted my arm and made me buy anything

  madazz

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6/17/13 12:49:55 PM#47

Forgive and forget. If SOE decides not to have everything ready for launch (or they just couldnt make deadline), than it is what it is. As adults (and hopefully mature teens), it is up to us to decide what we should be hyped about.

Anyone with experience over the last several years knows that no game is worth hype anymore no matter what they say!

GO MMORPG.com!

  SpottyGekko

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6/17/13 12:50:59 PM#48

Lol, "blacklist the site" ?

 

I don't frequent MMORPG.COM because I have a high regard for the review scores or the opinions of the staff writers. I come here for news and discussion.

 

So it's irrelevant to me if the staff of MMORPG.COM decide to call EQN the "bestest MMO evah !". It's just their opinion after all, and nobody's opinion is more important to me than my own... 

  Kazuhiro

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6/17/13 1:07:59 PM#49
Can't very well blame a guy that looked at a video and had someone promise crap to possess divination on the final product.

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  nariusseldon

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6/17/13 1:12:36 PM#50

What does that have to do with this site?

It is not like i come here for information.

 

  laserit

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6/17/13 1:22:14 PM#51

If Bill ate babies for breakfast...........

 

anyways...

 

what's fun for one month doesn't mean its fun for the second.  Live and let live I always say or according to the pole "forgive and forget"

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  Torvaldr

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6/17/13 1:29:03 PM#52
Originally posted by Foomerang

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Foomerang So lets say August comes and we find out that EQ Next isnt the epic sandbox we were lead to believe. What if all the features that Bill saw were not actually implemented in the game yet and was simply a list of planned features they want to do.  
my thoughts...

temper your expectations.

Why? Because the game very well might be, in the eyes of some, an epic sandbox. But in YOUR mind's eye it is very possible that any game will not fit/fulfill your requirements for epic sandbox.

So people should take a deep breath, lower your godly expectations and realize that the game can very well be "a good" sandbox and let it lie at that.


That's pretty much where I'm livin with this game. I do find it interesting that the majority of us (myself included) are willing to believe what we do not yet see time and time again. Im glad we arent all cynics. But the irony is how open minded we are to games we know little to nothing about and then when we get actual info and game footage we nitpick it to death.

I'm looking forward to the game and my expectations are in check as they mostly are.  I am a bit cynical because nothing is ever really as good in practice as concept, but that's just reality.  It doesn't ruin my enjoyment of games at all.

However, for me it is about responsible reporting.  Sovrath used TOR as an example where it was overhyped but he did his homework and enjoyed the game despite the backlash.  I use TOR as an example of blown out journalism that didn't report responsibly.  That sort of thing pushed people's expectations rather than encouraging them to use critical thinking it promotes kneejerk emotional engagement.  That's what I find wrong with it.

I think Bill is totally entitled to his opinion and I want to hear about it.  If he got a sneak peak I want to hear how excited he is and as much as he can say.  I just don't think best of show was an appropriate way to show it or encourage excitement.

edit: And to answer your question.  I'll forgive and sort of forget.  I won't hesitate to remind them if it goes south and then they promote something the same way in the future (ala TOR).

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  DamonVile

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6/17/13 1:29:36 PM#53

I didn't vote. I don't come here to have this site make my mind up for me, I come here to read their opinion on a game. I've never found they over hype a game any more than anyone else. They get excited some times but who doesn't.

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  korent1991

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6/17/13 1:32:07 PM#54

it's just a game... not a life changing decisions we're talking about here really :D

also, I only follow the games on this site I already checked up myself and saw there's something I could be interested in.

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  SoMuchMass

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6/17/13 1:36:20 PM#55
After GW2 and SWTOR hype trains and disappointments, I won't be hyped for any MMO again.
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6/17/13 1:36:28 PM#56
What an idiotic poll. Really.
  GeezerGamer

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6/17/13 1:38:17 PM#57
Originally posted by Foomerang

So lets say August comes and we find out that EQ Next isnt the epic sandbox we were lead to believe. What if all the features that Bill saw were not actually implemented in the game yet and was simply a list of planned features they want to do.

 

Oh look a "What If" poll

What if the game...............

You fill in the blank and make a poll about it.

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  UOlover

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6/17/13 2:34:30 PM#58
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  maplestone

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6/17/13 2:35:39 PM#59
Originally posted by mmobootsy
What an idiotic poll. Really.

Depends on the true goal of the OP.  It's generating discussion.

  diesel9

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6/17/13 2:39:48 PM#60
Originally posted by DamonVile

I didn't vote. I don't come here to have this site make my mind up for me, I come here to read their opinion on a game. I've never found they over hype a game any more than anyone else. They get excited some times but who doesn't.

Being wrong is only a crime when you're a little internet kid with no perspective on life.

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