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General Discussion  » POLL: For followers only. Will you now give TESO a shot?

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  Jonoku

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6/14/13 12:18:30 PM#41
The game looks linear, not worth my time.

Looking at: The Repopulation
Preordering: None
Playing: Random Games

  GrayGhost79

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6/14/13 12:33:20 PM#42
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by gatheris
Originally posted by mmobootsy
Originally posted by azzamasin
This announcement really hurt me to the core.

This is a pretty strong statement about a piece of digital entertainment.

What do you expect will happen to the game to the detriment of the PC implementation to make it suitable for consoles too? Will the Open World be different? The classless skill system?

Personally I will prefer to play on the console, I like laying back on a couch with a controller in hand looking at a big screen.

you do know that the couch isn't the sole territory of the console don't you?

a wireless mouse and keyboard, a 65" DLP tv and a wonderfully comfortable leather lounge with powered recline - very nice

What do you balance all those things on in your recliner? :-) lol. I'm curious because this is that route I want to take, get out of the home office and connect with the big screen TV :-).

Grab a lapdesk. I have an executive one I paid way to much money for but I love it. They do make cheaper ones like the one below. 

http://www.amazon.com/Place-Deluxe-Personal-Workstation-Cushion/dp/B001RO040Y/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_9

Here's you one for $20 even comes with a light and a drink holder...

  Kaneth

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6/14/13 12:40:26 PM#43
I'm still undecided. I don't care about cross platform, since it's just a natural progression of gaming. I don't fault a company for attempting to reach the most users available. I will have to see a lot more before making a decision. There's plenty of other games coming out to fill my gaming time with.
  Branko2307

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6/14/13 12:43:24 PM#44
Omg omg TESO is coming for consoloes also, what a shock...how about you stay until the end of the lesson where they say console servers wont be connected to each other nor the pc version of the game, so yea makes no diference to me im still as exited as i was before.

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  Iselin

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6/14/13 12:46:35 PM#45

And then there's this list @ The Examiner where ESO comes out 2nd to the Division (which does look amazing):

http://www.examiner.com/article/best-of-show-e3-2013-games

...shrug.

And OP, correct me if I'm wrong. That Gamespot list you linked... all of those games are on consoles too aren't they?

The IGN "People's Choice Award" went to the Witcher 3. I guess you'll miss out on that one too because it's also "dumbed down" for the PS4 and Xbone...and oh yeah, the amazing looking Destiny? Yup, cross-platform too.

Whatever will you do when EQN is announced to be for PS4 also? The horror! You guys better get used to many, many games that used to be PC-only--including most AAA MMOs--coming to the consoles also. Your list of exclusive to PC MMO titles is about to begin shrinking.

Of course you can always dust off your old Athlon 64 computer and go play Ultima Online or Asheron's Call again... now those were real MMOs for manly men and women too.

 

  Torval

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6/14/13 12:46:46 PM#46

I put maybe.  I'm not more or less excited than before.  I haven't seen a lot of footage or know how it's going to work.  I would need to try it out.  Hype before that just leads to a bunch of drama later.  Games shouldn't be massively hyped before we even know anything about them.

Curse you AquaScum!

  Eladi

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6/14/13 12:54:04 PM#47

why should i care? most mmo's these days are designed for pc AND console even if they dont release on console right away you can clearly see the might go console design in about every single mmo.

skyrim was clear  a console game , oblivion was a maybe we wont but lets just add console design in it to.  both games were great. 

I doubt they are as stupit as SOE was whit DCUO that was even for a console bad design. designers/developers  have come a long way just like pc only mmo's  nobody is going to play a new mmo whit UI and gameplay design from 2003.

 

  Torval

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6/14/13 12:58:02 PM#48
Originally posted by Iselin

And then there's this list @ The Examiner where ESO comes out 2nd to the Division (which does look amazing):

http://www.examiner.com/article/best-of-show-e3-2013-games

...shrug.

And OP, correct me if I'm wrong. That Gamespot list you linked... all of those games are on consoles too aren't they?

The IGN "People's Choice Award" went to the Witcher 3. I guess you'll miss out on that one too because it's also "dumbed down" for the PS4 and Xbone...and oh yeah, the amazing looking Destiny? Yup, cross-platform too.

Whatever will you do when EQN is announced to be for PS4 also? The horror! You guys better get used to many, many games that used to be PC-only--including most AAA MMOs--coming to the consoles also. Your list of exclusive to PC MMO titles is about to begin shrinking.

Of course you can always dust off your old Athlon 64 computer and go play Ultima Online or Asheron's Call again... now those were real MMOs for manly men and women too.

The Division does look really cool.  The UI, the gameplay, mobile device interaction, all look really well done.  The gameplay footage I've seen is nice.

We'll have to see if and to what extent developing for a console platform affects the depth of the games.  It may well be that major titles will all be cross platform going forward so they can garner the widest audience.  PC exclusives could well be relegated to niche titles.

Curse you AquaScum!

  CrazKanuk

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6/14/13 12:58:29 PM#49
Originally posted by azzamasin
I'll add answers for those who hated the game in the 1st place but I really would like to see those of us who have been die hard fans of the MMO versions reaction to the Cross Platform Announcement.  I am extremely upset and because of the console port it has become a deal breaker for me.  I will no longer support, follow or hype something I deem irrevocably detrimental to a PC MMO.  The genre I love above all else.  This announcement really hurt me to the core.  Hopefully ZOS will see the error of their ways and come out and scrap this plan but I know they will not.  In the mean time I'll do my damdest to let the the company know this is a poor move and will backfire on them.

Don't be offended by this, but you realize that they've made like the last 3 Elder Scrolls games on PC and Console, right? 

 

Things you may not have known:

  1. There will be completely separate UIs for PC and Console
  2. PC UI can be modded with lua
  3. PC/MAC, XONE, PS4 will each have their own servers 
 
So, essentially, we're talking about a vastly different game on PC than on a console. It's not like cookie cutter UIs that we've seen before.
 
Just Sayin.

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  ALoneGamer

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6/14/13 1:13:58 PM#50

I think OP is overreacting a little bit here. Just because they're porting the game to consoles doesn't necessarily mean the pc version isn't going to be as good. I know that there is a history of pc games suffering for the console ports but for all we know the ui's for both versions could be fine, and the doomsaying just on this speculation is a little pre-mature. The next gen consoles are going to be huge and from what I've heard they're pretty powerful so you really can't blame Zenimax for putting their game on the consoles, where, even though the pc elitists might not believe it, people actually do play elder scrolls game. 

About the way the game is designed. I understand people's frustration that this game won't be more like a traditional elder scrolls game, having played and loved Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim myself (I got skyrim the week it came out and still play). It does sound like they are trying to make this game resemble elder scrolls as much as possible (first person fighting, items laying around you can pick up, books to read, lots of options in weapons, armour, and skills) but I don't think the direction they took was really that bad. It differentiates itself from the single player elder scrolls game and becomes a different kind of game. A little diversity in an IP can be a good thing. Now if the game does turn out to just be a quest hub themepark I will be very disappointed, but these people saying that it definitely will be are again really just speculating. I'm going to stay cautiously optimistic that this game will turn out well in the end.

  keithian

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Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 3101

6/14/13 1:18:01 PM#51
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by gatheris
Originally posted by mmobootsy
Originally posted by azzamasin
This announcement really hurt me to the core.

This is a pretty strong statement about a piece of digital entertainment.

What do you expect will happen to the game to the detriment of the PC implementation to make it suitable for consoles too? Will the Open World be different? The classless skill system?

Personally I will prefer to play on the console, I like laying back on a couch with a controller in hand looking at a big screen.

you do know that the couch isn't the sole territory of the console don't you?

a wireless mouse and keyboard, a 65" DLP tv and a wonderfully comfortable leather lounge with powered recline - very nice

What do you balance all those things on in your recliner? :-) lol. I'm curious because this is that route I want to take, get out of the home office and connect with the big screen TV :-).

Grab a lapdesk. I have an executive one I paid way to much money for but I love it. They do make cheaper ones like the one below. 

http://www.amazon.com/Place-Deluxe-Personal-Workstation-Cushion/dp/B001RO040Y/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_9

Here's you one for $20 even comes with a light and a drink holder...

Thank you, I'm going to research a little. As silly as this sounds, getting something like this may have me avoid or postpone a PS4 if I can find one wide enough for a standard keyboard and a mouse pad :-).

There Is Always Hope!

  jtcgs

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Joined: 9/28/04
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6/14/13 1:21:25 PM#52

I cant understand for the life of my how anyone is surprised by this being cross-platform.

The developers showed time and again that they were disconnected from reality right from the start. With PAX they showed that they weren't really listening, nor cared about what players were saying unless it was good. And as for "changing their minds"...the game was made with consoles in mind right from the start, there is no turning back, it isn't a decision that is made deep into development, its a decision made at the start.

Cross platform is one of the few things they have done that makes sense. They believe they are targeting TES fans, so to not do cross platform would be beyond belief because it would then mean they didn't just miss the mark, they missed the entire target board.

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  keithian

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6/14/13 1:39:52 PM#53
Originally posted by Iselin

And then there's this list @ The Examiner where ESO comes out 2nd to the Division (which does look amazing):

http://www.examiner.com/article/best-of-show-e3-2013-games

...shrug.

And OP, correct me if I'm wrong. That Gamespot list you linked... all of those games are on consoles too aren't they?

The IGN "People's Choice Award" went to the Witcher 3. I guess you'll miss out on that one too because it's also "dumbed down" for the PS4 and Xbone...and oh yeah, the amazing looking Destiny? Yup, cross-platform too.

Whatever will you do when EQN is announced to be for PS4 also? The horror! You guys better get used to many, many games that used to be PC-only--including most AAA MMOs--coming to the consoles also. Your list of exclusive to PC MMO titles is about to begin shrinking.

Of course you can always dust off your old Athlon 64 computer and go play Ultima Online or Asheron's Call again... now those were real MMOs for manly men and women too.

 

You're going to have to copy and paste this into every thread for the next year because the same folks are going to keep posting the same ridiculous 'dumbed down for console' argument regardless. They just can't accept reality.

On a side note, I didn't know about Destiny until your post. I agree, looks amazing and I haven't really played a shooter in years. Might give me a reason to get a console since it doesn't seem like it will be on the PC.

There Is Always Hope!

  Shadanwolf

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6/14/13 2:10:02 PM#54

I was a 10 out of a possible 10 on this game.

 

NOW....really

 

 

the game doesn't exist.All I hear are things that make me feel the game has lost touch with the initial core values of the designers...so i have stopped getting irritated (hearing of all the changes) and will check next year to see if/when whatever it turns out to be is  going to launch and see how much further the game has been distorted. If its not FTP.....I don't care what the heck it is or isn't. 

  baphamet

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6/14/13 3:06:06 PM#55


Originally posted by jtcgs
I cant understand for the life of my how anyone is surprised by this being cross-platform.

The developers showed time and again that they were disconnected from reality right from the start. With PAX they showed that they weren't really listening, nor cared about what players were saying unless it was good. And as for "changing their minds"...the game was made with consoles in mind right from the start, there is no turning back, it isn't a decision that is made deep into development, its a decision made at the start.

Cross platform is one of the few things they have done that makes sense. They believe they are targeting TES fans, so to not do cross platform would be beyond belief because it would then mean they didn't just miss the mark, they missed the entire target board.


yet the devs have said the reason they pushed it back is largely due to player feedback in beta.

oh and look for EQnext to be on ps4 as well, guess they don't know what their target audience is either lol

mmo's on the new consoles is the future, especially since current mmo players only like to bitch about mmo's and not actually play them.

most of the complaining that goes on is based on speculation anyways, i am sure they don't listen to you guys and are more willing to listen to the people actually playing their game in beta.

  rojoArcueid

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6/14/13 3:22:46 PM#56
multi platform mmo = pure awesomeness. Too bad it wont be shared servers. Still good tho.

  Sovrath

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6/14/13 4:16:33 PM#57
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by jtcgs
I cant understand for the life of my how anyone is surprised by this being cross-platform.

 

The developers showed time and again that they were disconnected from reality right from the start. With PAX they showed that they weren't really listening, nor cared about what players were saying unless it was good. And as for "changing their minds"...the game was made with consoles in mind right from the start, there is no turning back, it isn't a decision that is made deep into development, its a decision made at the start.

Cross platform is one of the few things they have done that makes sense. They believe they are targeting TES fans, so to not do cross platform would be beyond belief because it would then mean they didn't just miss the mark, they missed the entire target board.


 

yet the devs have said the reason they pushed it back is largely due to player feedback in beta.

Though it's plausible that it was pushed back because of these new consoles I think it's MORE plausible that it was feedback from beta.

Companies realize more and more that these large projects have many hurdles getting to launch and then living past launch.

If anything, SWToR was a good lesson for developers that you can have a strong IP and still fail as far as expectations (personally I think SWToR is a fine game but I can see why it didn't make the money they wanted).

Since they originally said that the adventure zones wouldn't be ready at launch I'm thinking they are now thinking that they need to have quite a lot of content at launch. As the Bioware devs discovered; players go through content awfully fast.

 

  keithian

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6/14/13 5:42:21 PM#58
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by jtcgs
I cant understand for the life of my how anyone is surprised by this being cross-platform.

 

The developers showed time and again that they were disconnected from reality right from the start. With PAX they showed that they weren't really listening, nor cared about what players were saying unless it was good. And as for "changing their minds"...the game was made with consoles in mind right from the start, there is no turning back, it isn't a decision that is made deep into development, its a decision made at the start.

Cross platform is one of the few things they have done that makes sense. They believe they are targeting TES fans, so to not do cross platform would be beyond belief because it would then mean they didn't just miss the mark, they missed the entire target board.


 

yet the devs have said the reason they pushed it back is largely due to player feedback in beta.

Though it's plausible that it was pushed back because of these new consoles I think it's MORE plausible that it was feedback from beta.

Companies realize more and more that these large projects have many hurdles getting to launch and then living past launch.

If anything, SWToR was a good lesson for developers that you can have a strong IP and still fail as far as expectations (personally I think SWToR is a fine game but I can see why it didn't make the money they wanted).

Since they originally said that the adventure zones wouldn't be ready at launch I'm thinking they are now thinking that they need to have quite a lot of content at launch. As the Bioware devs discovered; players go through content awfully fast.

 

+1. I agree with everything you wrote including SWTOR, though even as a initial fan of that game I stopped at level 48 lol, it really did just feel too linear and the world too static for me with the social hub in the wrong place. Still a fine game though.

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  Total_Hunt

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6/14/13 5:47:23 PM#59
So long as the UI isn't gimped.
  gatheris

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6/14/13 11:24:05 PM#60
Originally posted by keithian
Originally posted by gatheris
Originally posted by mmobootsy
Originally posted by azzamasin
This announcement really hurt me to the core.

This is a pretty strong statement about a piece of digital entertainment.

What do you expect will happen to the game to the detriment of the PC implementation to make it suitable for consoles too? Will the Open World be different? The classless skill system?

Personally I will prefer to play on the console, I like laying back on a couch with a controller in hand looking at a big screen.

you do know that the couch isn't the sole territory of the console don't you?

a wireless mouse and keyboard, a 65" DLP tv and a wonderfully comfortable leather lounge with powered recline - very nice

What do you balance all those things on in your recliner? :-) lol. I'm curious because this is that route I want to take, get out of the home office and connect with the big screen TV :-).

not too complicated - contoured wireless keyboard on lap and mouse on low slung and wide chair arm for mouse (like a huge leather mouse-pad)

:)

 

theatre surround is an added bonus

 

 

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