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  iFruit

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Joined: 5/07/13
Posts: 44

6/14/13 2:54:53 AM#21
Rift is terribly boring anyway.

  Bladestrom

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6/14/13 2:55:12 AM#22
Troll or worse. This expectation for meaningless fluff in the place of real content is influencing development (in general, not threads like this). This kind of attitude is damaging and people with this attitude should really just take a long break from gaming. If trolling then = weirdo.

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (1000 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (480 Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(900 elementalist), Wildstar

Now playing GW2, AOW 3

  Renoaku

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Joined: 2/10/07
Posts: 956

 
OP  6/14/13 3:34:49 AM#23
Originally posted by Wylf

Come on, this has to be a Troll, no-one quits a game because they can't customize the weapon skins at lvl 6 in a game with 60 levels. 

Heck by level 20 in Rift you probably go through 25-30 weapons. 

Nope it is no Troll I played Rift during Closed Beta, and played Rift Trial, I never purchased the game because I feel the character customization options before they added cash shop were complete crap, I returned when it went F2P to check it out because of some of my friends from the guild were also trying the game out, I saw they had a cash shop allowed me to freely customize my avatar/character the way I wanted, so I put in $20 to buy items then find out about the weapon issue, with missing tool-tips.

The developers said to file a ticket to support and ask for a refund I already sent  a ticket In I believe before I even posted.

They also said they were updating Tool-Tips for future players who buy the weapon skins so they know that they have to buy the transmute stones.

Yes I would quit a game if I couldn't have the ability to fully customize my character whenever, in fact I have quit a number of games because of this and I will list them.

Lineage 2, When L2 went F2P and besides my account getting compromised I would have quit because of the cash shop anyways.

Aion, Another game I enjoyed I have a collectors edition, I quit because of plastic surgery tickets.

APB Reloaded, I quit because of Gamers First restricting character customization to very little and making it pay 2 enjoy with weapon restrictions/rentals.

TERA, I quit because of character customization as well I got to like level 30 or so I think basically when I bought the game I thought I got the full game full unlimited customization with my subscription when it was Pay 2 Play, but I didn't so I quit after complaining about it and they wouldn't fix of course now the game is F2P I have checked the game out and it still the same way and same UI bug I reported when it first came out so I am not playing. ( Yes I do have a collectors edition of TERA)

There are a number of games I have quit all for similar reasons, while maybe most people are not as picky as I am about it I Have my reasons to why I personally will not stay around in a game that should offer this for Free especially to users who have purchased items from the cash-shop it should be FREE  to customize unlimited times aka you shouldn't have to pay anything and should work just like wardrobe does with armor.

The only game I have ever played that I will leave installed and continue to play although I don't like the game much for other reasons is Guild Wars 2 because its a Truly Free 2 Play, I don't have to pay a dime for weapon customizations, they give me lots of transmute stones form doing map completions, or I can just exchange gold, and i basically don't have to spend but 2 minutes and I have enough gold to exchange for gems to buy any item I wan't. GW2 offers great customization, and the Snapshot's I showed in the other post is why I am personally picky about customization, I don't just play a game for the Quests, or Story, I play for good realistic characters that make me feel like I am that person there, otherwise why bother spending $400 for a good graphics card.

Also out of every game I have played Developers never listen to consumers when you suggest or want something done, look at Never Winter, and Perfect World lots of us wanted a wipe because of cheaters they didn't wipe.

http://imgur.com/yaauQXB Here is proof that I am not trolling  Ireally did buy an armor set at level 1 actually, didn't finish the customization/mix match however, and proof that I actually spent money as I claim, I am dead serious about this and not trolling I wouldn't troll for the laughs over something like this.

  Skymourne

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Joined: 6/12/11
Posts: 358

6/14/13 3:42:09 AM#24
Look, you are simply not going to be pleased...about anything...ever.  Go ahead and boycott the game.  No, one...and i mean no one, cares one bit about your tantrum on the Rift forums or these forums.  Write your extremely influential and self-important blogs that no one will read, and move it on along.  
  Slappy1

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Joined: 12/27/12
Posts: 464

6/14/13 3:48:00 AM#25

I don't know man,I'm not going to sit here and call you a troll.At the same time I haven't played a single mmo where I felt I wanted to use the the same weapon skin from lvl 6 on.I mean wth?

If this is your only real gripe with the game,you need to ask yourself,is it the game that's the problem,or is it you?

Some day I'm going to put a sword through your eye and out the back of your skull!

Arya Stark

  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

6/14/13 3:52:17 AM#26
Originally posted by Renoaku
Originally posted by Vannor
Why on earth are you paying to customize your weapon at level 6 when there are literally 100's of weapons for you to still find.... The free-to-find endgame weapons don't look rubbish you know, they look awesome.

Why would you not?

http://i.imgur.com/xuC43ZF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/o2wYFNx.png

http://imgur.com/a/8sXkI

If a game doesn't offer anything realistic or realistic such as this in a SYFY world, I will not play the game.

When I play a RPG, or MMO I expect to see good character customization, and something that is Free 2 Play, But not Pay 2 Enjoy, or Pay 2 Win in other words Cash Shop items are okay, but not to the point where you can't earn them 100% in game and can't freely customize or change skins as much as you want for example after buying it.

I don't want to see some game like never winter

yoou showed a picture of GW2. Let me remind you that GW2 also has weapon skins on the cash shop, and the items to change skins for another weapon while keeping the same stats are also cash shop items (transmogrification?) something like that. What you can collect and freely change at any time in GW2 are the Dyes. I do not have a problem with that in Rift either. You play for free, the cash shop lets you reskin your weapon. Every f2p mmo that offers skin changes is through cash shop.

 

Offtopic: what game is that one of the kitty kat screenshot? the third one.

My endgame begins with character creation and ends with a new mmorpg

  Vynxe_Vainglory

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Joined: 3/26/13
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6/14/13 4:02:03 AM#27
His douchebag level is over 9000!!!!!!!
  Renoaku

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Joined: 2/10/07
Posts: 956

 
OP  6/14/13 4:22:26 AM#28
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Renoaku
Originally posted by Vannor
Why on earth are you paying to customize your weapon at level 6 when there are literally 100's of weapons for you to still find.... The free-to-find endgame weapons don't look rubbish you know, they look awesome.

Why would you not?

http://i.imgur.com/xuC43ZF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/o2wYFNx.png

http://imgur.com/a/8sXkI

If a game doesn't offer anything realistic or realistic such as this in a SYFY world, I will not play the game.

When I play a RPG, or MMO I expect to see good character customization, and something that is Free 2 Play, But not Pay 2 Enjoy, or Pay 2 Win in other words Cash Shop items are okay, but not to the point where you can't earn them 100% in game and can't freely customize or change skins as much as you want for example after buying it.

I don't want to see some game like never winter

yoou showed a picture of GW2. Let me remind you that GW2 also has weapon skins on the cash shop, and the items to change skins for another weapon while keeping the same stats are also cash shop items (transmogrification?) something like that. What you can collect and freely change at any time in GW2 are the Dyes. I do not have a problem with that in Rift either. You play for free, the cash shop lets you reskin your weapon. Every f2p mmo that offers skin changes is through cash shop.

 

Offtopic: what game is that one of the kitty kat screenshot? the third one.

Well I can collect Transmute stones at level One in GuildWars 2 if I wanted just by completion of a city map quest, in Rift I went from 1-6 Couldn't do this and got nothing but regular quest items.

There is a major difference between GW2 Cash Shop, and Rift from what I can see  in GW2, I can immediately sell items on the market for gold, and then immediately use that to turn it into gems so I don't have to pay anything, in Rift I do not see this option there might be an option for trading the gems or cash-shop currency with other players but then again I bet it takes longer than GW2 to do.

Then again what is the point of Rift even offering a wardrobe option for armor if they are not going to offer it for weapon skins as well to me it just doesn't make any sense.

OFF -Topic

The Kitty kat picture is from Second Life, before the account was hacked by a group of griefers due to Linden Lab's fail security, my password as very secure not used anywhere, my system was clean, but there are numerous ways  and things Linden Lab also does to compromise players accounts I have their own employee on Recording making mistakes on other players accounts due to Troll phone calls, yeah its pathetic, I quit that game after my inventory of over 50k Items and hundreds of dollars of assets deleted just not the game for me, although it wasn't a complete loss all the merchants who actually develop content there were quite helpful, I made enemies with the goons in Second Life, which NoR and other Role-Play simulators in Second Life support their griefing of merchants, I blew the lid off that one with tons of snap-shots proving the griefing that went on from their simulators on my account, and admin admitting to not caring about the game or its community as a whole, it is Stupid Linden Lab will not do anything about the land owners who allow griefers to use their sim to CopyBot others but then again only the person doing it gets into trouble if they get caught.

Basically the problem with Linden Lab, is how easy it is to obtain a persons Real Life name, Address, Email, Phone Number, for example my friend and I used PayPal, and when you send money to someone it gives you their RL name, and so my friend has my Email & Name, and also knows where I live, there are also many other ways to get this like if people share on face-book and such, but the problem is that you Prank-Call a company tell them you forget your secret question, and give them all the info of the other persons you know to play like its them, and some Linden Employee are stupid enough to fall for this not sure if that might have been the case with my account but I know its happened and I made it perfectly clear if the person doesn't know the secret question its not me, require a court-order to unlock or reset the account and had that attached to the file just to be safe because there is no way I will forget my secret question and no its not simple not just a name, or anything multiple names, and numbers.

I will actually return to the game if Linden Lab ever Fixes Second Life, I miss Second Life for what it used to be back in 2008-2009, but to be honest a lot of the community in Second Life between those two years has changed, or is gone due to griefers, and botters so there wasn't much left there for me. I think its very pathetic how people in Second Life two merchants who work hard to create content worked with the same griefers who compromised the account, which were also friends with the admins of NoR aka Norians, and how I got the info from the merchants, I did some griefing myself made some in game threats(Not Real Life Threats.) and they told me exactly what they did and who it was its not like I didn't know anyways of course I never did anything because I am against cheating online games, but I have, and had the tools to ban evade, and grief them as well.

Second Life in general in Not  secure, Linden Lab also admits on their wiki that they can't be responsible for TPV developers meaning that anyone who uses any Third Party Viewer, it may contain a keylogger that can compromise your account, I have asked LL to add IP Verification a few times, but they closed the Jira report, and said they would foward it to their development team and nothing gets done another point where companies don't listen. Basically IP verification is like Guild Wars 2 uses when you try to login to provide extra security in-case someones password becomes compromised because of a viewer keylogger.

Read the warning on it in red at the top of the wiki, Linden Lab told me on phone support too they can't verify all TPV's or information it shares, there is even a videos on the internet showing people Brute-Forcing players accounts.

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory

  Nephelai

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6/14/13 4:41:44 AM#29
Originally posted by Renoaku

However my Debate with Rift, is Pay 2 Enjoy,

Welcome to the real world - in the real world if you organise something yourself you can do it for free. Chances are if you expect someone else to organise your fun it wont be free.

 

Are you aware that you can purchase gems with in game currency you earn while playing? While I personally don't have a desire to re-skin weapons I change every level each to their own.

 

While I've had a look and probably wont play it again as far as I can see its pay to accelerate which is total fine with me. When I was younger with lots of time currency I could grind out stuff. Now I'm older with a fuller life I just don't have the time so having the option to grind or pay to remove grind is fantastic imho.

 

Defeating the time sync isn't P2W its a quality of life option and I think F2P or B2P with the option of buying incidentals is the only way MMO's are going to attract people away from others they have up to 8 years invested in. Unless the game play is something spectacular which I haven't seen achieved yet in any MMO of recent times.

 

 

 

 

  dead2soon

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6/14/13 4:58:46 AM#30
Once you get to endgame your weapon won't change much. I've had the same mace for months now. Between lvl 6 and 60 you are going to go through tons of weapons. Patience.
  pipbrit

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6/14/13 5:03:54 AM#31
Who hates their life? That guy.
  stevebombsquad

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6/14/13 6:24:21 AM#32
Originally posted by Skymourne
Look, you are simply not going to be pleased...about anything...ever.  Go ahead and boycott the game.  No, one...and i mean no one, cares one bit about your tantrum on the Rift forums or these forums.  Write your extremely influential and self-important blogs that no one will read, and move it on along.  

We obviously all care. This guy is famous. Didn't you read his link??  ...... Actually with my Rep in the MMO community it does mean a lot Plus all my results get posted on the Top of every search engine or anyone looking for information about the game and with the age of all my posting accounts across all RPG forums on the internet yeah I would say it could have an impact on Rift as a game..... 

 

Hahahahaha! I haven't laughed so hard this early in the morning in such a long time........ 

James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?

  Secretdoor101

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6/14/13 6:39:35 AM#33

Well, it was not the OP's cup of tea.  Great, glad you want a game where how you look is completely your choice at all times, at least you know what you want.  Good luck finding it (seriously, there's not much for options out there on that!)

 

As far as the ability to customize in rift, you can buy credits with in game currency via players who want to sell credits (Rift Exchange.)  You do not have to pay any money to do it, but it does take work (and a good bit more in game currency than what you would have as a level 6 with FTP just starting and no time having passed for prices to come down.)

 

I...do feel that your post was far too negative with regard to the developer response and that there were a large number of errors in nomenclature and/or game mechanics.  You talk about dyes, which is different from weapon graphics and the items used to alter the weapon graphics.  You talk about submitting a ticket, but you seem to have run off and posted without waiting for results... and no dev team around is going to take a forum post and go hunt down a ticket that is still in process out of order.  There is a general lack of full information here, including how much credits (you called them green gems) cost to buy.  I won't nitpick on your spelling and grammar, but the post overall is just lacking.  Finally, if you looked into anything that the Rift dev team mentioned about going FTP, weapons were mentioned as having been tried as a wardrobe item, but there were too many errors... and thus they made it fall into the current system (that was all over the FTP news with Rift, it was honestly hard to miss.)

  User Deleted
6/14/13 9:29:02 AM#34

Oh, it is THIS guy.  I read this thread on the Rift forums last night.

 

Weren't you offered a refund, and one of the devs actually said they will be changing the description of the vanity item in question.  Isn't that basically what you were after, yet you come here to slam the game and talk about how Trion wronged you.

 

Grow up.

  DamonVile

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6/14/13 10:41:57 AM#35
Originally posted by Renoaku

TERA, I quit because of character customization as well I got to like level 30 or so I think basically when I bought the game I thought I got the full game full unlimited customization with my subscription when it was Pay 2 Play, but I didn't so I quit after complaining about it and they wouldn't fix of course now the game is F2P I have checked the game out and it still the same way and same UI bug I reported when it first came out so I am not playing. ( Yes I do have a collectors edition of TERA)

I assume you never found the template station where you can use any armor you can wear ( from your class ) that's under lvl 58 as a template for the armor you have on. You can also craft dyes to change the color of it to anything in that armors template. None of that cost real money to do.

That wasn't enough for you ?

 

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  Jostle

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6/14/13 10:44:46 AM#36

I have never played Rift in my life. I know that weapon skins are one-use item shop perks. How? I saw the game went Free-to-play and watched a 15 minute long video detailing the item shop. It wasn't difficult. I could see how if you didn't do any research, you could make that mistake. I cannot fathom, however, how you could possibly quit a game over something like this. If you can name one game that you can fully customize your character from level one to max without spending any money at all, I'd love to hear about it.

 

Frankly I would be more concerned about the actual gameplay and content that was available to me for free. It sure seems like Rift has a lot of it. Maybe MMORPGs aren't for you. I think newgrounds has a lot of dress-up games for free. Check there.

  MindTrigger

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6/14/13 10:55:22 AM#37
Originally posted by InsaneDalek

You're boycotting the game because you can't customize the look of your level 6 weapon for free?

... yeah. I can't say much about that which wouldn't get me permabanned. I mean seriously? "I can't customize my low level weapon for free whenever I want to, so I'm going to boycott and badmouth this game! Even though I have access to all quests, zones, raids, and levels of equipment, MY LEVEL 6 SWORD MUST LOOK BADASS!!"

Unbelievable how entitled people are these days. Block function, ahoy!

What's really stupid about this is that you surpass level 6 inside of an hour or so playing the game.  I played for three hours last night and hit level 12... and I spent a good deal of time fishing and gathering resources for crafting. The game quests gave me new weapons, most of which looked pretty cool after the first 5-6 levels, at a regular pace.

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  Jeleena

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6/14/13 3:13:08 PM#38
Originally posted by MindTrigger
Originally posted by InsaneDalek

You're boycotting the game because you can't customize the look of your level 6 weapon for free?

... yeah. I can't say much about that which wouldn't get me permabanned. I mean seriously? "I can't customize my low level weapon for free whenever I want to, so I'm going to boycott and badmouth this game! Even though I have access to all quests, zones, raids, and levels of equipment, MY LEVEL 6 SWORD MUST LOOK BADASS!!"

Unbelievable how entitled people are these days. Block function, ahoy!

What's really stupid about this is that you surpass level 6 inside of an hour or so playing the game.  I played for three hours last night and hit level 12... and I spent a good deal of time fishing and gathering resources for crafting. The game quests gave me new weapons, most of which looked pretty cool after the first 5-6 levels, at a regular pace.

Level 6 is basically the level where you leave the tutorial area......

  GeezerGamer

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6/14/13 3:29:59 PM#39

I know this sounds petty, but I too have already quit.

Why?

I logged in and began to resume my leveling from SL. Only to notice my mount speed was 60%. Now I'd been a Rift subscriber from release to SL. and I'd already paid for my mount increases with a lot of gold. And while I fully understand I am no longer paying a sub, I still just can't get past this.

60% Mount speed is a deal breaker for me.

 

POST EDIT:

 

OK, Now I am seeing 110%

Hmm, I'll keep an eye on this, I may have spoken too quickly

 

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Torvaldr

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6/14/13 3:38:18 PM#40
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I know this sounds petty, but I too have already quit.

Why?

I logged in and began to resume my leveling from SL. Only to notice my mount speed was 60%. Now I'd been a Rift subscriber from release to SL. and I'd already paid for my mount increases with a lot of gold. And while I fully understand I am no longer paying a sub, I still just can't get past this.

60% Mount speed is a deal breaker for me.

There are mounts that go faster.  At level 52 I have a 130% mount.

Some basic mounts don't scale in speed though.  So if you purchase one of the two basic mounts (I think it's 60% and 90%) then they won't go faster.  Most mounts do scale in speed so if you purchased a faster mount then use that one or one of the mounts that scale in speed.  If you don't like any of the skins you can purchase a mount through the cash shop with in game currency or credits.  If you've been subbed for the last 2 years then  you'll have around 3k credits.  You can buy a mount with credits for around 80 - 1200 credits depending on how fancy you want to get.

If you're using a mount that should go faster but isn't then submitting a support ticket might help since there could be some technical problem.

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