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  kakasaki

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6/12/13 5:26:03 PM#261
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I don't think people are defending the game. I think they are calling out this site on it's obvious duplicity.

What duplicity? Not liking a game?

MMORPG.com is damned if they do and damned if they don't with the tinfoil hat crowd. If they like a game that's advertised on the site, then they were paid to write that. If they don't like a game that was advertised on the site then some kind of deceit or duplicity is going on.

 

This is not really a case of "Damned if you do and damned if you don't". This site accepted $$$ for Ads and then plastered those pics all up and down this site site. While their 1st round of Ads came through, I remember having to quickly minimize this window if my kids came around. It was MMORPG.com that I had to hide from my kids, NOT Scarletblade.com. Now, they want to turn around and say it's "Shameful and Degrading"?

Again, read my post about responsibility of ad content. Look at the bright side, maybe the review shamed the ad department to pull the ads.

 

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  Loktofeit

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6/12/13 5:39:12 PM#262
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I don't think people are defending the game. I think they are calling out this site on it's obvious duplicity.

What duplicity? Not liking a game?

MMORPG.com is damned if they do and damned if they don't with the tinfoil hat crowd. If they like a game that's advertised on the site, then they were paid to write that. If they don't like a game that was advertised on the site then some kind of deceit or duplicity is going on.

This is not really a case of "Damned if you do and damned if you don't". This site accepted $$$ for Ads and then plastered those pics all up and down this site site. While their 1st round of Ads came through, I remember having to quickly minimize this window if my kids came around. It was MMORPG.com that I had to hide from my kids, NOT Scarletblade.com. Now, they want to turn around and say it's "Shameful and Degrading"?

Selective memory?

Three months ago, Bill Murphy wrote a less than stellar article on Scarlet Blade. They haven't changed their stance at all. They've told you the truth, which is that the staff of the site doesn't control the ads. At this point, the question is simply "What answer do you want?" because obviously the real answer doesn't work for you.

 

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  Torrmwyre

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6/12/13 9:01:57 PM#263

Originally posted by jtcgs

Worthless review written by someone that was not the target audience and no doubt for some reason still loved Age of Conan that had bare boobs, depicted rape, and overall stated that women were nothing more than items to be used and discarded...and that game was serious about it unlike this one which is all humor based.


This article was more shameful than the game...BTW, pornographic? Seriously? Is this the 1960s? Nipples are not porn.



Personally speaking, I'd rather have the serious game than the 'humor-based' game. The humor implies that they don't care what they're depicting.


  Matryoshka

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6/12/13 10:47:29 PM#264

I am a female, and I played this game, and I have to say, I never once felt "objectified" by the fact that I was looking at animated breasts on fictional characters.


I don't know why you, George Dimmock, felt that way. But let me ask, how can you possibly degrade or shame a character that isn't real? What next, artists who draw naked women are degrading and shaming these women they draw? I am so sick of people trying to argue that the mere sight of breasts, real or fake, is somehow objectifying women and degrading them. You know what is objectifying women? Forced prostitution in third world countries, for example. But not this game. So maybe you should worry about that more and not a bunch of fictional characters in a video game.


  Wraithone

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6/13/13 2:09:15 AM#265
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I don't think people are defending the game. I think they are calling out this site on it's obvious duplicity.

What duplicity? Not liking a game?

MMORPG.com is damned if they do and damned if they don't with the tinfoil hat crowd. If they like a game that's advertised on the site, then they were paid to write that. If they don't like a game that was advertised on the site then some kind of deceit or duplicity is going on.

 

This is not really a case of "Damned if you do and damned if you don't". This site accepted $$$ for Ads and then plastered those pics all up and down this site site. While their 1st round of Ads came through, I remember having to quickly minimize this window if my kids came around. It was MMORPG.com that I had to hide from my kids, NOT Scarletblade.com. Now, they want to turn around and say it's "Shameful and Degrading"?

While I consider Scarlet Blade to be a sub par game (due to its game play elements), the eye candy is just amusing to me.   MMORPG accepting money to run ads for the game, is simply business.  Sure its a silly game, but its money is still green, and it pays the bills the same as money from better (and worse) games. 

At its most fundamental this is about business and personal taste. If you don't like a game or if it "offends" you, then don't play it.

  Eluwien

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6/13/13 2:22:35 AM#266

Originally posted by Ghavrigg


Originally posted by kakasaki


Originally posted by blohm86

This was a HORRIBLE review, no objectivity or any wisdom AT ALL! Why is this, didnt they bribe you enough? 




Shame on you MMORPG.com staff



Wisdom? Really? This about a video game that uses sex as its main selling point?


 



 



+1 


This was the perfect reply. Inigo Montoya knows all.



Sex? Really? 



Hentai figurines in provocative outfits is hardly sex. 


 


Also, worst review in mmorpg.com by far



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  Kitsunechii

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6/13/13 2:23:30 AM#267

Don't get the whole idea of seeing the human body as something bad...




It's only "shameful and degrading" because people think it is. Why is it so bad for me to like the female body?




how about appreciating, instead of complaining?




If people could just grow the fck up, th eworld would be a much better and easier place to live in




 




As for the actual game, i don't like tab-targetting so im not going to play it jsut as i don't play WoW for example. 




 


and who the fck decided what should be morrally right or wrong?


killing people is considered morally wrong but you don't see america giving that hobby of their up do you?


i fail to see how porn is "degrading" when the vast majority of all porn actors are doing it because they decided to do it.



 

  Bladestrom

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6/13/13 2:30:58 AM#268
That would be fine if a) some of the avatars clearly looked under age, and b) there was a way to ensure children did not play the game (would you feel comfortable if you knew that dancing naked char you are 'admiring' was being played by a child). Same reasoning why children should not be allowed to play hardcore violent games.

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  Bladestrom

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6/13/13 2:33:35 AM#269
To eluwien, have you actually looked at the definition of the word hentai, and why it is not appropriate for children.

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  lelye

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6/13/13 2:36:04 AM#270
f you have no shame, are a 12-year-old child just finding out about “the boobies”, are interested in seeing just how horrible this whole charade can get, or want a fairly slick-looking sci-fi based grinder, and are willing to ignore the more obvious draw to this game.
  Thegoodlol

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6/13/13 2:52:33 AM#271
You can throw this review to the trash can MMORPG.com, because that's where it belongs. I don't play the game, I downloaded it and unninstalled it after 20 minutes, not because I think the game is bad, which probabbly is, but because I don't like nudity in my games, but you couldn't review the game objectively. I know reviews are subjective, but you just got disgusted by the nudity and didn't go from there. This is not a review worth of this website. This was most likely wroten by a religion extremist., since it seemed you were reviewing a porn magazine than a game.
  Scot

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6/13/13 3:07:30 AM#272
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I don't think people are defending the game. I think they are calling out this site on it's obvious duplicity.

What duplicity? Not liking a game?

MMORPG.com is damned if they do and damned if they don't with the tinfoil hat crowd. If they like a game that's advertised on the site, then they were paid to write that. If they don't like a game that was advertised on the site then some kind of deceit or duplicity is going on.

 

This is not really a case of "Damned if you do and damned if you don't". This site accepted $$$ for Ads and then plastered those pics all up and down this site site. While their 1st round of Ads came through, I remember having to quickly minimize this window if my kids came around. It was MMORPG.com that I had to hide from my kids, NOT Scarletblade.com. Now, they want to turn around and say it's "Shameful and Degrading"?

While I consider Scarlet Blade to be a sub par game (due to its game play elements), the eye candy is just amusing to me.   MMORPG accepting money to run ads for the game, is simply business.  Sure its a silly game, but its money is still green, and it pays the bills the same as money from better (and worse) games. 

At its most fundamental this is about business and personal taste. If you don't like a game or if it "offends" you, then don't play it.

Not this again. If they had run the SB ads and not done a review would posters have been happy? This review was scathing and still MMORPG.com are taking money? Maybe George Dimmock was getting a bung from feminist organisations for this review? Lets get real here, every time you think a MMO is overated or underated does not mean someone on the staff took a bribe.

 

  blohm86

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6/13/13 4:12:04 AM#273
In this case, it was the lack of bribes.
  someforumguy

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6/13/13 4:35:43 AM#274

This review was quite shameful and degrading. But at the same time unintentionally funny.

Next time try to decide whether you want to review moral values or a game.

  Icewhite

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6/13/13 6:28:28 AM#275
Originally posted by Nephaerius

I generally don't comment on reviews because hey they're just a opinion and I usually use them to help contribute to the formulation of my own regardless of whether I agree.  However, this isn't even a review this is a freaking white knight love fest.  Let's see how many brownie points I can score because feminism is the hot issue in gaming this year.  Really scraping the bottom of the barrel. 

I agree, but we have several sub-species of white knights involved; and it's time to acknowledge all of them.

  • Phreedum Phor Bjoobies faction
  • I am offended that you are offended by that guy being offended faction
  • This whole 'issue' is freaking ridiculous faction
  • The omg how dare you make a profit, mmorpg.com? faction
  • Best Game Evar Because It's Eastern faction
There are many more, of course.
 
Meanwhile, this is that one thousandth topic (approximately) about SB, all the same, because it's so much fun shaking our finger and tsk tsking at others.
 
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  NeoSquall

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6/13/13 6:28:54 AM#276
Originally posted by Matryoshka

I am a female, and I played this game, and I have to say, I never once felt "objectified" by the fact that I was looking at animated breasts on fictional characters.


I don't know why you, George Dimmock, felt that way. But let me ask, how can you possibly degrade or shame a character that isn't real? What next, artists who draw naked women are degrading and shaming these women they draw? I am so sick of people trying to argue that the mere sight of breasts, real or fake, is somehow objectifying women and degrading them. You know what is objectifying women? Forced prostitution in third world countries, for example. But not this game. So maybe you should worry about that more and not a bunch of fictional characters in a video game.

Wow, there actually are female gamers not aligned to the Sarkeesianism! Bravo!

  NeoSquall

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6/13/13 6:30:25 AM#277
Originally posted by Bladestrom
That would be fine if a) some of the avatars clearly looked under age, and b) there was a way to ensure children did not play the game (would you feel comfortable if you knew that dancing naked char you are 'admiring' was being played by a child). Same reasoning why children should not be allowed to play hardcore violent games.

looking underage != being underage

Anyway, ensuring children do not play this game is their parent's responsibility, NOT Aeria Games', try another argument.

  NeoSquall

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6/13/13 6:32:44 AM#278
Originally posted by Bladestrom
To eluwien, have you actually looked at the definition of the word hentai, and why it is not appropriate for children.

Indeed the proper word for the characters in this game would be "ecchi", still inappropriate for children view but it's not really the point.

Sorry for the three consecutive replies but I couldn't get around this forum's multi-quote feature.

  BrucyBonus

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6/13/13 6:34:21 AM#279
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Nephaerius

I generally don't comment on reviews because hey they're just a opinion and I usually use them to help contribute to the formulation of my own regardless of whether I agree.  However, this isn't even a review this is a freaking white knight love fest.  Let's see how many brownie points I can score because feminism is the hot issue in gaming this year.  Really scraping the bottom of the barrel. 

I agree, but we have several sub-species of white knights involved; and it's time to acknowledge all of them.

  • Phreedum Phor Bjoobies faction
  • I am offended that you are offended by that guy being offended faction
  • This whole 'issue' is freaking ridiculous faction
  • The omg how dare you make a profit, mmorpg.com? faction
  • Best Game Evar Because It's Eastern faction
There are many more, of course.
 
Meanwhile, this is that one thousandth topic (approximately) about SB, all the same, because it's so much fun shaking our finger and tsk tsking at others.
 
Mrs. Grundy would be proud of all of us.

haha I quite like the faction wearing the slightly superior and condescending facade which has slipped a little by virtue of the fact they can't resist posting.  I might join that one.    

 

 

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6/13/13 7:00:30 AM#280
Originally posted by BrucyBonus

haha I quite like the faction wearing the slightly superior and condescending facade which has slipped a little by virtue of the fact they can't resist posting.  I might join that one.    

Welcome aboard. I must warn you though, nearly every post you make will be reported by someone.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

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