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  GrumpyMel2

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Joined: 3/24/09
Posts: 1813

6/12/13 12:21:16 PM#41

Sounds potentialy interesting but we'll have to see what the combat system is liked. To represent the feel of fire-arms/futuristic ranged weapons well you really need a mouse-aiming system not tabbed-targeting and I REALLY dislike 3rd person view when dealing with modern/sci-fi warfare and ranged weaponry. If it doesn't give at least the option of a 1st person view I might have to give a pass.

Yeah I know...most MMO'ers live and die by 3rd person......but  "bang-bang" is supposed to have a fundementaly different feel/experience then hacking something from 2 feet away.

IMO if they are really doing it right they'll switch from 1st to 3rd depending upon what type of weapon is equiped and let the players choose to turn it off and handle thier preferences manualy if they like as well.

 

  User Deleted
6/12/13 12:22:49 PM#42

People thinking that this model will fail are grossly underestimating the fandom that WH40k holds.

 

  waynejr2

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RIP City of Heroes!

6/12/13 12:23:56 PM#43

Let's look at 40k the miniatures games.  You purchased a core set of rules and perhaps the starter box.  The rest of the game was purchased bit by bit.  You want a different army?  Buy a set of rules plus various miniatures.  Want that leader figure?  Be prepared to spend a lot of money.  This is their business model. 

Check out the prices at  http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/home.jsp?setLocale=en_US&gclid=CKTml4SE37cCFUThQgod5B0Aig

$115.00 for a wraithknight miniature:  http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod2060062a

 

  steamtank

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6/12/13 12:34:43 PM#44
Originally posted by waynejr2

Let's look at 40k the miniatures games.  You purchased a core set of rules and perhaps the starter box.  The rest of the game was purchased bit by bit.  You want a different army?  Buy a set of rules plus various miniatures.  Want that leader figure?  Be prepared to spend a lot of money.  This is their business model. 

Check out the prices at  http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/home.jsp?setLocale=en_US&gclid=CKTml4SE37cCFUThQgod5B0Aig

$115.00 for a wraithknight miniature:  http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod2060062a

 

I own at least a 6000 point wood elf army and a 12000 point greenskin army....

the cost means nothing to me.

 

the fairness of the game means something to me.  I for one dont see any amusement in killing off 3-4 free players without breaking a sweat. 

I would much rather it be a DAOC like game with 4 playable factions and 1 wildcard faction.  If they want to represent unit size, have an ork players model be 3-5 ork boys that travel together.

 

the game already reeks of pay-to-win, that isnt competitive, its boring.

 

  faxnadu

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Joined: 3/28/08
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6/12/13 12:46:58 PM#45
Originally posted by VassagoMael
As soon as I read free to play I lost interest. I want a game that is designed around being fun, not designed around ways to nickle and dime me. Or in the case of NWO, try and become a millionaire by selling lemonade for $1000 a cup.

empty wish since online games are all going to be f2p from now on with tricky cash shop.

  TotemicDruid

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Joined: 2/18/13
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6/12/13 12:47:13 PM#46

Guys I am hopeful! A game which appears to mirror Planetside, but with the Rich Lore of WH:40K is a fantastic idea, plus it has the added PvE content. 

With regards to the F2P model, people have to get that life isnt free and things cost money. Do they seriously think the programmers are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts??

A single Ork couldnt take a Space Marine, so lets not get into the idiotic calls for balance, simply because you dont want to sub/pay for a better gaming experience. If any of you know even the slightest bit about the lore of this game its that balance is there, so I dont want to see something similar to "Dude! The emperor  just got wasted by an Eldar Guardian"".

I played SWG for years and even up to its end, to make way for SWTOR, it never went free to play; which is something SWTOR didnt last 6 months doing. In short if its good pay for it, if you arent that interested, but enjoy a zerg here and there, take advantage of the F2P model?

With that said I agree with the above comments that limiting the F2P race may be a tad restrictive. Of the races indicated Imperial Guard, Guardians and Heretics are all an obvious F2P meat-shield replacement :)

  Bunnyking

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Joined: 6/28/10
Posts: 110

6/12/13 12:47:19 PM#47

Only able to play orcs with the f2p option?

 

Pass. 

Who's retarded idea was that?

  Razeekster

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Joined: 7/09/11
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May the game be ever in your favor.

6/12/13 1:17:48 PM#48
Originally posted by TotemicDruid

Guys I am hopeful! A game which appears to mirror Planetside, but with the Rich Lore of WH:40K is a fantastic idea, plus it has the added PvE content. 

With regards to the F2P model, people have to get that life isnt free and things cost money. Do they seriously think the programmers are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts??

A single Ork couldnt take a Space Marine, so lets not get into the idiotic calls for balance, simply because you dont want to sub/pay for a better gaming experience. If any of you know even the slightest bit about the lore of this game its that balance is there, so I dont want to see something similar to "Dude! The emperor  just got wasted by an Eldar Guardian"".

I played SWG for years and even up to its end, to make way for SWTOR, it never went free to play; which is something SWTOR didnt last 6 months doing. In short if its good pay for it, if you arent that interested, but enjoy a zerg here and there, take advantage of the F2P model?

With that said I agree with the above comments that limiting the F2P race may be a tad restrictive. Of the races indicated Imperial Guard, Guardians and Heretics are all an obvious F2P meat-shield replacement :)

Dude! The emperor just got wasted by an Eldar Guardian!

 

No, but seriously, if you actually think that barring certain classes in what they're calling a "F2P game" is acceptable then I don't think you understand the difference between F2P and P2P. The company either needs to have a balanced F2P with a fair cash shop (cosmetics only) or it needs to be subscription based.

 

This thing with being on the rails with what their pay model really is, isn't acceptable.

 

Smile

  imran_tayab

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Joined: 8/09/06
Posts: 5

6/12/13 1:50:32 PM#49
No Tau? :(
  Hatefull

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Joined: 6/09/04
Posts: 748

Your tears make my gun work better.

6/12/13 1:56:16 PM#50
Its been in production for years at this point.  Anyway, Looks like a good idea, hopefully it is done well and with good graphics.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

If you want a new idea, go read an old book.

  Gorwe

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Joined: 9/16/11
Posts: 1777

6/12/13 2:11:35 PM#51
Ok, would you like my model then?

You get Scouts, boyz(shoota+slugga), Guardians and heretics as f2p.

Would that satisfy you?
  Drakynn

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Joined: 3/02/08
Posts: 2051

6/12/13 2:14:59 PM#52

Waiting to see how much things cost before complaining too much,also to see if the game is worth bothering with at all.

But really they already lost me as I can't play an Inquisitor and consign the Heretic and Xeno worlds to the holy flame!!!

  GeezerGaz82

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Joined: 11/14/11
Posts: 50

6/12/13 2:17:50 PM#53

An MMORPG with the Warhammer 40K IP, EVE like economy,  and a combat system that's a mix between Space Marine and Epic Games’ Gears of War....

 Sounds great, I'll be keeping an eye out for this one

  akathos

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Joined: 10/27/08
Posts: 179

6/12/13 2:44:55 PM#54

I'm a massive fan of the Warhammer franchise, as well as WarHammer: 40k .

I can kind of understand the idea of the orks being FTP lore wise to generate higher numbers, but it's a terrible idea in terms of player satisfaction. I approve of a previous post about giving the lower ranks to FTP players too, scouts and grunts etc. To offer some diversity but not offering the full experience of the more advanced players, where inevitably the fun will be. Maybe even possibly giving at least one extra race to try for FTP's. 

I'm concerned that on top of the restrictions to orks alone,  that we have to further pay per race.... now of course costs could ease my concern slightly, if it was £10, $10 per race. and providing it was a permanent unlock, I think that's justifiable. but if we're looking at anything over $15- per race... then we will be looking at a greed based developer team, and there's no way im getting involved . 

Cosmetics are a given for any FTP model. Weapon skins, armor's ship addons etc...

Right now, they are calling this a premium FTP model. I disagree, right now this is pay over and over to get stronger model.

 

If this was premium FTP, I'd expect something similar to,  Free, Silver, Gold memberships.

Free- limited  

Silver - Average sub price-  Upgraded  - Some Extras (maybe not most popular races/classes)

Gold - Full Sub Price - Full Access + Extra Benefits (Discounted CS, exclusive skins, and or advanced classes)

I am not a FTP hater I expect FTP players to be restricted !  So don't freak out on me over that, I just think right now, they are screaming greed and they will scare people away.

 

It all comes down to prices.... I'm negatively cautious of their direction. FTP is fine, but is dangerously hard to get right. 

 

 

  Blakkrskyrr

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He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

6/12/13 3:09:58 PM#55
booooo i played tyranids on the table.  i want to play them in the game :(
  severius

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Joined: 8/10/04
Posts: 1527

6/12/13 3:20:17 PM#56
Originally posted by Rusque

I think I might have to resign myself and accept that there will never be a proper WH40K mmo in my lifetime.

Are there no development companies out there with love for the WH40K universe that want to make it right? Seriously.

QFT

 


  Metanol

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Joined: 1/20/05
Posts: 238

6/12/13 3:29:12 PM#57
Heh, would've been more fun if they made Imperial Guard regular troops another Free to Play option. And gave players more than once unit to control at a time, however, that would again cause major trouble without... lets say, MMO-moldbreaking mechanics.

We´re all dead, just say it.

  Wraithone

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If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

6/12/13 3:43:14 PM#58
Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!!... ^^  From what I've seen, it looks like fun. Lets see how it plays.
  redcapp

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6/12/13 3:53:02 PM#59
Freemium + Fps .. skeptical hippo.
  DKKOberon

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Posts: 82

6/12/13 4:18:30 PM#60
Originally posted by Vlacke

The fact that you have to pay in order to play a Space Marine in a WH40k "free to play" MMO is somewhat hilarious.

Ork Boyz, seriously?

someone has to pay the bills. or no one gets to play the game. TANSTAAFL!!

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