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  oGMo

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6/12/13 8:56:22 AM#21


Originally posted by lizardbones
I can't tell if this is Microsoft being dumb, arrogant or what.

It can't be all of the above?

  Caldrin

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6/12/13 8:57:41 AM#22
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Caldrin

The xbox one would become useless if they didnt have access to the net after 30 days.

its 24 hours - not 30 days

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-will-have-24hour-offline-gaming-limit-8649310.html

 

OH holy crap...

Microsoft have gone full retard on this one..

 

What if you move hosue.. it can take up to a week here in the UK for your internet access to be moved to a new property.. so you move and your wtihout your xbox until you get the internet back up..

 

I know a guy in my local car club that moved house and when he tried to get a phone line run to the houe BT refused to do it as the telephone pole outside was bent to one sdie a bit.. they had to order a new one.. anyway to cut a long story short it took him about a year and a half before he got internet access.. So that would be a year and a half with what is basically a £400 door stop.. nice..

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  marcuslm

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6/12/13 8:59:21 AM#23

I also can't believe Roku would release a device for watching movies that requires an internet connection to work. It's outrageous!

If you do not have an internet connection, then yes, indeed this device is not for you. Don't buy it. If you are like millions of others that do, then why complain about it? My internet connection is rarely down. If yours is down often, sounds like you need to be complaining about the company that provides your broadband, not MS.

I am more upset about the hefty $500 price tag than the box checking in every so often.

  Cacaphony

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6/12/13 8:59:33 AM#24


Originally posted by Caldrin

Originally posted by Nadia

Originally posted by Caldrin The xbox one would become useless if they didnt have access to the net after 30 days.
its 24 hours - not 30 days http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-will-have-24hour-offline-gaming-limit-8649310.html  
OH holy crap...

Microsoft have gone full retard on this one..

 

What if you move hosue.. it can take up to a week here in the UK for your internet access to be moved to a new property.. so you move and your wtihout your xbox until you get the internet back up..

 

I know a guy in my local car club that moved house and when he tried to get a phone line run to the houe BT refused to do it as the telephone pole outside was bent to one sdie a bit.. they had to order a new one.. anyway to cut a long story short it took him about a year and a half before he got internet access.. So that would be a year and a half with what is basically a £400 door stop.. nice..


This console should have been called the: Xbox#dealwithit

  squalleonaha

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6/12/13 9:02:37 AM#25

Microsoft just forget that there is something out there call PS or NIN that doesnt required internet also.

maybe they'll love to keep all those Xbox one to play with employers on Break time

  rojoArcueid

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6/12/13 9:06:00 AM#26
Originally posted by CalmOceans
Originally posted by Caldrin

Saying that I am sure it wont be long before someone hacks the system

I didn't think about that yet, but hackers are going to take the system down just to see what happens I'm sure.

hackers will have lots of fun with the xbox one around the world. In my native country the majority of xbox 360 users use hacked consoles because of the price of games over there (60 dollars is about 1/4 of the monthly salary of an average job there). NOw with the internet requirement of the xbox one it is a second shot in the head for them since the internet over there is not reliable in any part of the country, not even rich people have reliable connection there.

 

I dont support piracy here in the US, i purchase my games new whenever i can, but when i lived in my country i embraced it from every angle because i lived that nightmare that plagues a lot of third world countries. And just because im in the US now doesnt mean i have to swallow these companies excuses to get my money and still limit my control over the products i purchase. I will laugh when the xbox one gets hacked and say "MS, you asked for it".

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  Caldrin

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6/12/13 9:07:57 AM#27
Originally posted by marcuslm

I also can't believe Roku would release a device for watching movies that requires an internet connection to work. It's outrageous!

If you do not have an internet connection, then yes, indeed this device is not for you. Don't buy it. If you are like millions of others that do, then why complain about it? My internet connection is rarely down. If yours is down often, sounds like you need to be complaining about the company that provides your broadband, not MS.

I am more upset about the hefty $500 price tag than the box checking in every so often.

You what lol.. No ones internet is guaranteed a 100% uptime.. what if it does go down.. for some of the reasons i listed above you are left with a consoel you cant use.. and your happy with that? The fact that you cant use your console at that ponit is all on microsoft not your net company.

 

Well it does appear the Xbox One is not for nearly everyone as it looks like most people will be getting a PS4 if they want a new console.. I am not getting either console but even i can see how much of a restarded mess the xbox one is.

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  evilized

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6/12/13 9:08:25 AM#28

no more bringing your xbox on a road trip or up to the hunting lodge or some such for the weekend.

 

bad bad movie on microsoft's part. with all the NSA stuff all over the news and the fact that the camera is 100% always on / system always checking in with MS that's another shot to the gut... completely self inflicted. 

  Arakazi

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6/12/13 9:08:56 AM#29
They'll have to do a u-turn or at least a compromise. The press they are getting is too bad, they can't keep getting knocked around by Sony, round after round.

  oGMo

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6/12/13 9:11:42 AM#30


Originally posted by marcuslm
I also can't believe Roku would release a device for watching movies that requires an internet connection to work. It's outrageous!

If you do not have an internet connection, then yes, indeed this device is not for you. Don't buy it. If you are like millions of others that do, then why complain about it? My internet connection is rarely down. If yours is down often, sounds like you need to be complaining about the company that provides your broadband, not MS.

I am more upset about the hefty $500 price tag than the box checking in every so often.


Don't be silly; you could equally claim that "how dare someone release an MMO that requires constant Internet connection ... see, always-on DRM is fine, why complain".

This is about single-player, disc-based, offline games requiring your check in daily with your Microsoft Parole officer to make sure you haven't stolen them or anything.

Obviously, primarily-online stuff requires online. This is about primarily offline stuff requiring nearly-constant online, and Microsoft labeling you a criminal who needs monitored from day 1.

  Teilo

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6/12/13 9:13:50 AM#31
Originally posted by Arakazi
They'll have to do a u-turn or at least a compromise. The press they are getting is too bad, they can't keep getting knocked around by Sony, round after round.

I can't be the only Xbox owner thinking: "Okay Microsoft, I'll keep my Xbox 360 and buy a PS4"

  Skullagrim

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6/12/13 9:14:34 AM#32

The price tag is the only reason I am not buying one. I just built a $1,400 pc. lol I do like that they have the balls to do what they want to do.

  killion81

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6/12/13 9:16:21 AM#33
Originally posted by oGMo

 


Originally posted by Caldrin
The xbox one would become useless if they didnt have access to the net after 30 days.

 

Actually you're wrong, it would be useless anywhere between immediately and 24 hours, not 30 days. It's a 24-hour check-in. That means that if you boot up your XBone to play for the first time today, and your internet is glitchy at the moment, you can't play, because it's been 24 hours. If their servers are down, you can't play.

And how many of us, who have played innumerable MMOs, would ever believe that authentication and servers would be running smoothly and glitch-free from day 1 with no problems, ever? How many Microsoft services have been down for extended periods? (hint: go google "microsoft cloud down")

This is is going to be extremely funny to watch.

 

Can we coin the term "XBoned", pronounced X-boned, well before everyone gets XBoned?

  ice-vortex

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6/12/13 9:17:19 AM#34
Originally posted by Teilo
Originally posted by Arakazi
They'll have to do a u-turn or at least a compromise. The press they are getting is too bad, they can't keep getting knocked around by Sony, round after round.

I can't be the only Xbox owner thinking: "Okay Microsoft, I'll keep my Xbox 360 and buy a PS4"

The Xbox 360 is the only current generation console I own and I am getting the Playstation 4 instead of the Xbox One. I am not sure I will actually keep the Xbox 360 though as I usually don't keep older generation consoles.

  Ikeda

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6/12/13 9:17:55 AM#35

His sub comment pissed me off.  You know how many times I deployed and we set up Halo LAN parties?  6 months out to sea, no Internet in the traditional sense, bored.  Can you imagine?  Same for all those people ground pounding in Afghanistan and Iraq.  You're a vet protecting the country but you can't partake because you're fighting some 3rd world a-holes in some backwater country.

Hell, I sometimes go on business trips where the hotel ISP isn't good enough to sync my console up to.  So now that's scrapped too?  Play on the 360 my butt.  Hackers'll crack this in record time for them leaving this draconian policy at the feet of the innocent.

  Arakazi

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6/12/13 9:18:13 AM#36
Originally posted by Teilo
Originally posted by Arakazi
They'll have to do a u-turn or at least a compromise. The press they are getting is too bad, they can't keep getting knocked around by Sony, round after round.

I can't be the only Xbox owner thinking: "Okay Microsoft, I'll keep my Xbox 360 and buy a PS4"

I'll probably cancel my X-box live account and buy my ps4, while my x-box will rot in some cupboard somewhere. I expect that what most people will do. I only play once in a while now anyway.

  Aelious

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6/12/13 9:18:40 AM#37
What if it is unbelievable. What it MS has no intention of going through with it but is rather doing this for some press? They must see by now that the PS4 is beatng them strait away.

Imagine them continuing this until a month(s) before release and having a statement from Mr. Gates himself about how videos games should be for the people. I doubt this is the case but would probably work.
  Havekk

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6/12/13 9:19:51 AM#38
Originally posted by Khalathwyr
I love it. Just makes the decision to NOT buy the XBOX One that much easier.

Yup.. it's a ps4 for this guy. 

  ice-vortex

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6/12/13 9:22:41 AM#39
  Havekk

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6/12/13 9:23:03 AM#40
Originally posted by Ikeda

His sub comment pissed me off.  You know how many times I deployed and we set up Halo LAN parties?  6 months out to sea, no Internet in the traditional sense, bored.  Can you imagine?  Same for all those people ground pounding in Afghanistan and Iraq.  You're a vet protecting the country but you can't partake because you're fighting some 3rd world a-holes in some backwater country.

Hell, I sometimes go on business trips where the hotel ISP isn't good enough to sync my console up to.  So now that's scrapped too?  Play on the 360 my butt.  Hackers'll crack this in record time for them leaving this draconian policy at the feet of the innocent.

See, now you and I see eye to eye on this one. I was in the AF for 8 years and was on deployment many many times with no internet. Sometimes the only thing to do was to sit up and play games on whatever consoles we had around.. one time, we played Golden Eye for N64 on 4 player split screen for an entire weekend. Best. Weekend. Ever. 

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