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  Kaleston

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6/12/13 7:44:08 AM#221

Originally posted by lizardbones

I haven't read the article, but I probably agree with a lot of what was said in there. At this point though, it doesn't seem likely that there's anyone who doesn't know about the game, or doesn't know that it's offensive to a large number of people.



The common thread I've seen running through reviews, other than the obvious hot button issue is that if you removed all the stuff that is getting people worked up, there's not much of a game there. If you ignore the all female cast and the under dressed characters, it's a cr@p game. Nobody that I'm aware of has really disputed this.



Which says a lot about the developer's expectations of gamers. They expect gamers will pay for and play a total cr@p game if you show enough virtual skin.



You see, this sounds like very good way to write up review. Not to highlight dubious negative things about the game. Much more importantly point out: this game is crap. But if you say "disgraceful" and "shameful" in almost every paragraph, I'll definitely take your opinions with huge grain of salt, because they are no doubt very biased.


All in all if you wanted to make people interested in this probably crappy game, good work. As they say a negative marketing is still a marketing.


  h0urg1ass

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6/12/13 7:46:00 AM#222

I don't have a problem with nudity.  Hell, Age of Conan is one of my favorite games and it's LOOOAAADED with nudity, but that's part of REH's lore.

What I do have a problem with is pedophilia, and this game really straddles the borderline between normal male infatuation with naked women and pedophilia.  Some of the characters definitely look old enough to be legal and some of them are extremely questionable in age range.

If the developers would remove every doubt that these "women" are women by maturing some of the character models, then I say game on and enjoy your boobies.

  n3v3rriv3r

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6/12/13 7:46:43 AM#223
Originally posted by Horusra
What you are is being sardonic and not very well. 

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tl;dr

  atticusbc

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6/12/13 7:52:34 AM#224
Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
Originally posted by Horusra
Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r

Certain people play the "I am offended" card so easily. Well, lets try to be offended.

I am really offended that a 20 year old reviewer on a gaming site is lecturing its readers about morality and decency.

Did not know you owned the license for morality and decency.

I own the license to be offended. it is kinda popular

Can I be offended or not?

/sarcasm off

 You are kinda pointing the finger at the wrong person. I am not the one that is lecturing about what is decent and what not. you should ask somebody else about your  funny license.

no you can't be offended. i mean. the writer of the review isn't so why should you?

  NeoSquall

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6/12/13 7:59:55 AM#225

Originally posted by Fendel84M




Originally posted by jtcgs



Worthless review written by someone that was not the target audience and no doubt for some reason still loved Age of Conan that had bare boobs, depicted rape, and overall stated that women were nothing more than items to be used and discarded...and that game was serious about it unlike this one which is all humor based.




This article was more shameful than the game...BTW, pornographic? Seriously? Is this the 1960s? Nipples are not porn.







 




There's a BIG difference there. In AoC that was all in the context of an existing complex and brutal world. Bioshock infinite features some pretty intense racism, but I don't think anyone is going to argue the makers are racist.



What the reviewer forgot to mention in his "Shameful and Degrading Experience" review was that even Scarlet Blade has a setting and a world that explains why there are only female characters.


In Scarlet Blade the Earth has been invaded by an alien race, humans have been almost wiped out and took refuge in undeground Arks for several centuries before attempting to reemerge again.


The player characters are genetically enhanced warriors created to battle the remaing aliens on the surface, plus the mutated fauna and humans that couldn't take shelter from the nuclear fallout from the last desperate attack unleashed upon the invaders; as stated in the backstory, only female specimen adapted to the extensive genetic and cybernetic enhancements, thus why the limited gender choice.


About the amount of exposed skin, anyway, it's just about average in terms of korean MMOs, so deal with it.


  HabitualFrogStomp

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6/12/13 8:18:51 AM#226

I was just talking to a friend earlier about something similar. Were both American but living overseas in Australia. Personally I couldn't be happier that I left all that mandatory etiquette and fear of hurting anyones feelings behind. Americans in general just aren't very nice people. Sure they open the door for you, they act all polite and sweet to you. But none of it is sincere, and just as disingenuous as this review.

We Aussies (yes I throw myself in with their lot now, with no small amount of enthusiasm) may not have pretty faces, but at least we only have one each.

I'm not at all surprised that the problem has gotten progressively worse in my 4 year absence.

Don't you guys ever get tired of the liberal media castrating you via osmosis?

 

  GroovyFlower

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6/12/13 8:34:57 AM#227
Originally posted by Ghavrigg
This game is no way offensive. What's more offensive, is knowing all these girl characters are dudes playing one handed.

Ain't that the truth lol

  Dihoru

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6/12/13 8:35:21 AM#228
Originally posted by BurninatorX

Originally posted by Dihoru


Boobs get attention, violence has become an acceptable part of art. Not saying Scarlet Blade is art, far from it but the day a fantastic game gets put down for having tits out in it in a tasteful fashion (similar to the "porn simulator" that was Mass Effect 1 or so said the media) then I will literally get out a torch and pitchfork and start tar and feathering people who support this sort of twisted mentality.

The thing is, when a game does it "tastefully" and doesn't just use it as a selling point or marketing gimmick, it doesn't get heavily demonized. At least not by people who know anything about games (i.e. not the media, why attack everything including violent games). The Witcher games and Mass Effect games do just fine with minimal attacks about the nudity and sex.


I also want to point out the flaw in what you said about TV channels, the guy said "ok for kids to watch" so stating "you only need stay up" doesn't really count. The whole reason those things are on so late is in hopes that kids DON'T see them.

One of my first girlfriends back in my high-school days was a girl who could stay up until 3-4 AM and function perfectly the next day getting up at 8-9 AM so the "hopes that kids don't see them" card is rather...pointless considering she was by no means a unique case. Kids will see what they want when they want it ergo one should not shield children from life to such a massive degree past a certain, objective, age because it does no one any favours (I get that children ages 0 to lets say 12 do not need to know that the world is a fucked up place where dreams 99% of the times die unless you're willing to put other people's dreams into the ground to fulfil yours but when they start hitting puberty parents should start taking an active interest in teaching their kids about sex and life in general to do otherwise is to handicap them severely for a good chunk of their lives).

Originally posted by erictlewis
Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r

Certain people play the "I am offended" card so easily. Well, lets try to be offended.

I am really offended that a 20 year old reviewer on a gaming site is lecturing its readers about morality and decency.

Why he is pointing out his thoughts of morality on the matter,  I am really shocked by the lack of morals, and indecency on a lot of the post on this thread. Honestly if you read some of the post in this very thread, there is no wonder why our society has degraded to this point that it has. 

It shows one thing morals and decency seam to no apply to a lot of folks now days, and folks wonder what is wrong with society.  I point at some at this thread and go there is your problem. 

Also why should it matter the age of the writer in pointing out morals,  you either have them or you don't. 

 

Society has not degraded due to the lack of "morality and decency" it has degraded because morality has been surpassed in terms of societal evolution and parenting has not caught up and looks to be lagging farther and farther behind in a majority of cases while decency as a whole was always an illusion (lets be honest here decency amongst humans is as common as unicorns in the real sense of the word, people have and always will backstab each other on individual, cultural and political levels so decency in terms of sex is like... using a toothpick to stop a tsunami).

 

Humans by nature are amoral and indecent beings, we will do what we want when we wanted if we're allowed to, the only way you can combat this nature is by educating kids from a young age to be considerate towards, at least, other people and to think calmly logically because morality itself has too many "cause I say so" points and children are smarter than most adults give them credit.

 

  Postal13

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6/12/13 8:40:46 AM#229

Do you know why Americans find boobs so degrading? 


 


Because in-game boobs are always perky and perfect.  American boobs are saggy and reminiscent of Miss Chokesondick from South Park. If Americans had nice boobs, then they would stop whining about it.


Heck, if I had nice boobs, I wouldn't even be playing video games!


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  Rekindle

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6/12/13 8:44:07 AM#230

Common sense: get some.

 

Scarlet Blade is a step over the line. We can talk about how big, or what line, or what the issue is with crossing it, but there's no doubt it crosses a line.

 

I love women, I think they're really hot, but I've been taught to respect them too.  We all know this is a male dominated genre and I find the themes of the game disturbing and crossing on deviant lines.  This is a prime example of developers making money off a very specific demographic of likely lonely males. I mean seriously, theres better things to do.

 

I also seem to remember there being quite the thread about the Scarlet Blade ads, I wonder if MMOrpg is still hosting ads for the game? I haven't seen any lately.

  HabitualFrogStomp

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6/12/13 8:47:01 AM#231
Originally posted by Rekindle

 This is a prime example of developers making money off a very specific demographic of likely lonely males.

You've just described every game on this website. If this offends you, probably time to go somewhere else.

  GeezerGamer

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6/12/13 8:48:19 AM#232

I have not read all the responses so I don't know if this has been mentioned. But This game is a port from a culture where sex in animation and video games is much more common than in the West. To the Asians, this is just another one of those types of games. I am not making excuses for it. It's clearly an experiment to see if they can move this (and others like it) over to English. Personally, I'd rather they didn't.

Anyway, that was only my observation. But in my worthless opinion, I'd have to say I agree with every poster who has remarked on how questionable it is for MMORPG to accept this game's advertising dollars in one hand, and in the other, take the moral high road in it's reviews of the game. It only makes MMORPG.com look blatantly obvious.

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  Nephaerius

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6/12/13 9:12:58 AM#233

I generally don't comment on reviews because hey they're just a opinion and I usually use them to help contribute to the formulation of my own regardless of whether I agree.  However, this isn't even a review this is a freaking white knight love fest.  Let's see how many brownie points I can score because feminism is the hot issue in gaming this year.  Really scraping the bottom of the barrel. 

I don't even play this game and even I know it's based on an anime called Queen's Blade or something and is true to the source material.  They're limited by their IP here for better or worse.  I would imagine the game was designed for fans of anime or that specific anime in particular as well as MMO's. When you're reviewing a game  I'd much rather read about discussion of the game and its mechanics instead of pages of  "ahmagerdbewbsguyzthatslikemisogyny."

Also I think it's worth debating whether the real issue here is a female dressed in a sexualized manner or the reviewers interpretation or that females wardrobe.  Women have a right to dress however they want, they could walk naked down the street, it's you the viewer that don't have the right to judge or sexualize them based on their appearance regardless of what it is.  Be honest here, George, you look at all those half-naked chicks and you see pure sex instead of power, strength, heroism, you know their other qualities that are also apparent in a game where they're the heroes?  Why do you see that?  Because you make shallow judgments based on appearance.  For me the reviewer actually comes across as more misogynistic for lack of a better word than the game itself.

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  MindTrigger

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6/12/13 9:25:52 AM#234
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Bunnyking

I will never understand how americans keep demonizing nudity and glorifying violence.


It's okay for a little kid to see someone decapitated on tv...

It is? 

Let me  know what channel shows decapitations because I AM SO THERE, BUDDY.

 

Watch any of America's 7345345373 police drama TV shows,and you will run across every type of gore you can think of after a while.  Hell CSI has been there and done just about all of them at least twice.

 

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  MindTrigger

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6/12/13 9:42:35 AM#235

I find this discussion even more hilarious after waking up this morning and seeing the Elsword "little girly things" as an advertisement on this website.  I wonder if the reviewer should quit his job and go work somewhere that isn't quite so "degrading".

I think what bothers most of you is that there are games now that exaggerate sexuality that has been in these games ever since the graphics could even somewhat depict it.  Over the years, I've asked a lot of gamer men why they choose to play female characters, because I've always only played male characters myself.  Nearly every single one of them replied with some variation of "well, if I going to watch my character in the game, I'd rather have a nice ass to look at".

The false outrage over Scarlet Blade here is nothing short of comical.  Quick, go log into your game and start killing things!!!

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  n3v3rriv3r

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6/12/13 9:54:26 AM#236
Originally posted by atticusbc
Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
Originally posted by Horusra
Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r

Certain people play the "I am offended" card so easily. Well, lets try to be offended.

I am really offended that a 20 year old reviewer on a gaming site is lecturing its readers about morality and decency.

Did not know you owned the license for morality and decency.

I own the license to be offended. it is kinda popular

Can I be offended or not?

/sarcasm off

 You are kinda pointing the finger at the wrong person. I am not the one that is lecturing about what is decent and what not. you should ask somebody else about your  funny license.

no you can't be offended. i mean. the writer of the review isn't so why should you?

Oh really? This sentence is just an objective view of the playing experience:

Not only is this downright degrading but it’s also embarrassing to play.

... and btw I would strongly suggest you to read the thread (I know it is long, but you should read at least part of it) - as I said, playing the "offended" card is so easy and oh, YES! we all can be offended by whatever we chose.

  Loktofeit

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6/12/13 10:18:34 AM#237
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Bunnyking

I will never understand how americans keep demonizing nudity and glorifying violence.


It's okay for a little kid to see someone decapitated on tv...

It is? 

Let me  know what channel shows decapitations because I AM SO THERE, BUDDY.

To be honest you only need stay up after prime time to see such things...

While I think that in a scenario like that the issue is one of parenting not of what is on (cable) TV, your mention of prime time got me wondering just how much violence our kids can see during regular TV hours and I came across this:

http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/publications/reports/stateindustryviolence/main.asp

In light of that, I'm thinking it's about time we started allowing a lot more boobs on TV than there currently are.

  officialfive

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/14/12
Posts: 27

6/12/13 10:18:49 AM#238
It is, what it is. Just another grind fest.
  orionblack

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Joined: 7/25/09
Posts: 299

6/12/13 10:29:47 AM#239

Hahaha about the part that ask how would you feel getting caught playing this....What ,are you a damn kid playing this?? My bro's rolled in while I was playing and to be honest this has been the ONLY mmo they paid attention to more than 5 minutes!!! ( They being non-gamers..) So score one for the game.


And if you have such issues with it, then why did you run ads for the game for like 3-4 months straight??!!


Yeah the game is very tongue in cheek...even had to kill a tentacle monster once..^^


The game explains why the woman are the DOMINATE species,if ya took the time to read, but at least they are putting male toons in the game soon.


  blohm86

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Joined: 1/10/12
Posts: 47

6/12/13 12:23:01 PM#240

George Dimmock, shame on you.


 


Again, shame on you.


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