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  Ryowulf

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6/11/13 3:33:00 PM#141
Originally posted by bubaluba
Only because of Eve Online :) and wow. But soon all this will go in to oblivion with new games like destiny. Well  consoles are future for gamers, time of pc is gone

Funny you say that since consoles are becoming more like computers.

  AtmaDarkwolf

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6/11/13 4:28:07 PM#142
Originally posted by Ryowulf
Originally posted by bubaluba
Only because of Eve Online :) and wow. But soon all this will go in to oblivion with new games like destiny. Well  consoles are future for gamers, time of pc is gone

Funny you say that since consoles are becoming more like computers.

I think that is the general point of the thread: Consoles are going crazy trying to 'emulate' or copy a pc, while a pc can 'emulate' most consoles without much effort or strain.

 

Just as an expeirment, take the 'cash value' of a xbox 1, and 'build' a low end pc with it. Its more than possible, and that 'low end' pc will out preform the xbox at pretty much ANYTHING the xbox can do... and then some.

 

Like i said earlier, consoles would be better off going back to basics: The old style NES/SNES where u punched in the cart, and off u go, playing. No silly OS to worry about, stop trying to 'be' something your not, and just put all your effort into making the hardware DEDICATED to a game and no more.

 

We, as consumers, have other 'tools' we can use for ALL the other junk consoles are trying to 'do' now. Stop trying to beat all the cellphones, dvd players, smart tv's, computers, at races you can't possiblly even QUALIFY in, let alone win, and just do what you (once) do best: GAMES!

  AticusWelles

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6/11/13 4:43:36 PM#143
Until an open garden console comes a long (steam box) a PC will always trump consoles IMO. User generated content, control over settings (seriously nothing pisses me off more than not having vsync enabled on a console game with no way to force it on), choice of control methods (some games work well with a controller, others demand a kB/M, I want to make that choice for myself which I can on PC), cheaper games, even brand new most games are cheaper on PC, more control over when to upgrade, etc.

Walled gardens are a huge bummer, only walled garden worse than consoles is Apples.
  Torik

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6/11/13 4:51:33 PM#144
Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf
Originally posted by Ryowulf
Originally posted by bubaluba
Only because of Eve Online :) and wow. But soon all this will go in to oblivion with new games like destiny. Well  consoles are future for gamers, time of pc is gone

Funny you say that since consoles are becoming more like computers.

I think that is the general point of the thread: Consoles are going crazy trying to 'emulate' or copy a pc, while a pc can 'emulate' most consoles without much effort or strain.

 

Just as an expeirment, take the 'cash value' of a xbox 1, and 'build' a low end pc with it. Its more than possible, and that 'low end' pc will out preform the xbox at pretty much ANYTHING the xbox can do... and then some.

 

There are a ton of features that a PC has that a console will never have.  An XBox will not help me do my taxes or do video editing for me.  If you already need a PC for other stuff then the cost of gaming plummets vs a console since the price differential becomes just the cost of upgrading a basic work PC to one that can play games. 

  Robokapp

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The only luck I had today was to have you as my opponent.

6/11/13 4:55:54 PM#145
absolutely worth it.

  atticusbc

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Joined: 9/22/07
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I hated hipsters before hating hipsters was cool.

6/11/13 4:58:47 PM#146
i would say now more than ever with consoles trying to screw their users over as hard as possible.
  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

6/11/13 5:09:21 PM#147
Originally posted by sonicbrew

Its a no brainer for me anymore. I have been building custom rigs for over 30 years now and I am done because there just isn't any cost to value ratio for me anymore. I have built massive custom rigs myself from 1k-5k over that time and in the end most games have yet to push or tax any of my systems to justify the expense. Its not a money issue for me but a change of thinking and change of way I game anymore. I simply don't game for 10 hour stretches or more like the old days and I have yet to see any MMO in the last 5 years draw me in and blow me away other than LOTRO in Hi res DX 11 textures which is gorgeous. However, beauty is subjective with games today when they play like absolute crap.

Between the Steam box and PS4, I don't need to build another rig nor do I have the desire anymore. I rather buy a new Custom Shop Strat or a new Les Paul :)

 

And bouncing off of this is the PC/console industry is dependent on the games.  If the games are a fail everything else falls like a tower of cards.  I think I just saw a spade float by.

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  Bidwood

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6/11/13 6:31:41 PM#148
I was also thinking about buying am expensive PC one day to play MMOs but that doesn't seem necessary anymore. The console won't release for months and we already have Planetside 2, ESO, DCUO, FFXIV and some quasi MMOs.

If anything I will probably get two PS4s so my hubby and I can play together ;)
  zymurgeist

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6/11/13 6:40:06 PM#149
When I can take a console with me that can do what a PC does it will be worth owning one. Because it will be a PC.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  xSagai

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6/11/13 6:50:12 PM#150
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by lizardbones

Other than Elder Scrolls, what big name MMOs are coming to consoles?

- Planetside 2

- DCUO

- FFIV: ARR

- Possibly EQNext

 

Let's not forget Destiny. I know Bungie likes to use the term "Shared World Shooter" but given the evolution of MMO, it's an MMO and looking damn fine.

  xSagai

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6/11/13 7:16:37 PM#151
Originally posted by Swiftrevoir

Is it worth being male and owning a penis?  The answer is indubitably yes.  However some of my best times were playing EQOA/FFXI on PS2 so still be excited about console MMOs as long as the port is good.  The introduction of console gamers to the scene is not to push the PC players out, but simply to add them to the pool.  This is not a one or the other matter, it is an inclusion based on preference.  Those with consoles who might have had the inclination to play MMOs but were limited by either means or playstyle preference will now have more choices afforded to them within our favorite genre.   

So this is a "YAY for everyone" moment, not a "lets pick who is best" moment.  Unless that is you're afraid of the wave of console gamers and their fabulous cursing skills trapsing around in your digital worlds, insulting your digital mamas.

^

This

 

Own both and will continue to own both as long as I'm able. I'm excited for my console only friends to get a shot at Planetside 2, EQNext and the likes. I see it as drawing the two groups together. There will always be the tools on both sides that declare the superiority of their preferred platform but in the middle of that will be a group that play both. I went through many years of PC only but then picked up a PS3 and so glad I didn't miss out on the Uncharted or Infamous series. Subsequently I have a friend who has always been console only and then the GW2 no-sub caught his attention and now splits time between the platforms. Times are a changin' for the better!

  free2play

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Posts: 1796

6/11/13 7:47:08 PM#152
I have no plans of trading in my PC. I still wish Microsoft would make a gaming OS though.
  MMORPGRIP

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Joined: 5/08/13
Posts: 90

6/11/13 8:14:51 PM#153
Originally posted by ZaineUK

Hi All,

I used to think i'd always have a PC because i like playing MMOs. However, with all the recent developments in the last few days of big MMOs coming to consoles, the reasons for owning a gaming PC are becoming less and less. Don't get my wrong. I'll no doubt always have one, but the days of me spending thousands on gaming PCs for me are over. Just not worth it anymore.

Difference is...you can always upgrade the power of a PC.  You have to buy an all new system and library of games in most cases with a console.

  RedMachine72

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Joined: 5/18/10
Posts: 78

6/11/13 8:32:05 PM#154
PC gaming will always be better until they can get better with UI on console. Anything that was made with console in mind when made for PC at the same time, the UI has always sucked. Defiance is the latest one to come to mind. The UI on PC is horrible at best as it was made for console navigation. Chat is another thing. Until they fix the lag problems thru the console servers, your better off on PC utilizing a 3rd party chat system with their own servers, and if chat goes down on console, forget about typing unless you have something like the chatpad on the 360. Then there is the fact that you get more from a PC in the fact of changing your key setup, or expanding it with specialized keyboards. Can't do that with a console. Might be able to move around the buttons, but can't set up your own sequence. Not to mention your restricted to the consoles hardware, with PC, just upgrade to something better and it will still play all the games you could before without having to buy another PC cause it wasn't "backwards compatible"
  Issiea

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Posts: 65

6/11/13 8:43:48 PM#155

I love my PC and would never swap it for anything else.

 

It just feels like the type of games for consoles are much different and I don't think you would get the same playability of a PC to a console.  Maybe in future this may change with technology etc., it just isn't there yet.

 

 

  Vermillion_Raventhal

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6/11/13 9:08:31 PM#156
Originally posted by Issiea

I love my PC and would never swap it for anything else.

 

It just feels like the type of games for consoles are much different and I don't think you would get the same playability of a PC to a console.  Maybe in future this may change with technology etc., it just isn't there yet.

 

 

I've started playing more and more games on my xbox controller.  The biggest advantage of PC is customizations.

  NaughtyP

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6/11/13 10:29:31 PM#157

The more games (specifically online games) move to action-based combat over other forms of combat, the more the lines get blurred.

Not only that, consoles have come a long way. They didn't even have headsets not long ago and now you can even get keyboards and all kinds of other peripherals. With things like Steambox on the way, lines will get blurred even more. And it's probably for the best. Competition breeds innovation which will hopefully result in better games along the way.

Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.

  redcapp

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6/11/13 10:33:58 PM#158

Definitely an interesting subject for conversation, but I'm not convinced consoles are the way to go for all PC gamers.

 

PC's are going to have the smaller developers catering to them.  PC's are going to have games like Star Citizen.  PC's are going to be the way to go for gamers looking for projects made not to appeal to the masses, but to appeal to real hobbyists. 

 

Plus, personally at least, I prefer gaming on my desktop.  Sitting at my desk in my chair beats lounging on the couch when playing most games I'm interested in.

 

That said, steambox might bring about some further considerations.

 

Typical consoles though have only ever been a tool for when you have other people over and want to have fun, for me.  They've never been my go to for solo gaming sessions.  For shit like mario kart and smash bros though, they're great. 

  emperorwings

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6/11/13 10:57:58 PM#159
Have to use voice chat with MMORPG console gaming + control issues with hotkeys etc.

This isn't a signature, you just think it is.

  dgarbini

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6/12/13 1:06:56 AM#160

I understand where the OP is coming from.  Spending tons of money constantly chasing the best PC is a huge waste, and I would not recommend that.  I update mine ever 4-5 years or until I really need it, then buy something just slightly behind the best specs because the price difference is so much.

 

But to say that Consoles might be better or equal to PC's is such a joke its not even funny.  I dont know about you but I use my PC for millions of things that are not gaming (such as forums thank you very much).  To think that anyone would ever not want or use a decent PC all the time I just find crazy.  I use it all the time every day, its just such an amazing tool to forsake that is beyond my comprehension.  If you have a hard time justifying spending money on ok gaming PC (which is all it really takes) then just do bitcoin mining on the machine and let it pay for itself a bit over those years.  And OK machine should be able to pay for any gaming related upgrades just from that over the years of its use (say $500-1000), can a PS4 do that?

 

Anyways I'm playing 'Remember Me' on my PC right now with highest settings on a little bit older PC that cost less the 1k.  So I dont really see any reason to need more then when I have got or any reason to spend double or triple what I had.

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