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  coretex666

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6/11/13 3:22:22 PM#21

PC Only.

This whole console boom and its potential impact on MMORPGs makes me sad.

Not that current MMORPGs were shining with depth and complexity, but something tells me that if the developers want to make games for console crowd which represents a huge market, they will have to adjust the games to these customers' expectations / wants / demands.

Maybe I am just prejudiced and wrong, but I think that console players are looking for quick arcade fun rather than games with depth and complexity. I was hoping that with more orientation towards sandbox, the trend of simplifying the MMORPGs will reverse, but this indicates that it will continue.

If I am competely wrong, please tell me.

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  sxvs

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6/11/13 3:24:52 PM#22

pc now, but i might consider a ps4.

 

the thing i hate about consoles is how they seem to focus on everything except gaming, skypes and social media and blah blah blah, i don't want to facebook i want to play games!

 

i'll most likely stick to the pc as i feel like i have more freedom to do what i want.

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

6/11/13 3:30:11 PM#23
Originally posted by lizardbones

I selected PS4, because it's focused on gaming, the PS+ membership seems reasonable, and if I have the PS4, I'd be a lot less likely to upgrade my PC.

Yep.

I might actually sell my PC and Xbox 360 and pre-order a PS4 and buy a used PS3.

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  SavageHorizon

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6/11/13 3:34:02 PM#24
I'll keep my PC and buy a PS4 which i was always going to do, i've always owned a PS. At the end of the year i will sell my PC and buy a top of the range Haswell system, i like to be right at the top end of PC tec.

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  kellian1

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6/11/13 3:41:11 PM#25

I mainly play PC now...but in need of an upgrade. I picked PS4/Xbox One/PC - only because I don't know which one to go with (PS4 or Xbox One)

Both have drawbacks for me:

PS4 - Now costs money to play multiplayer online, I hate..HATE their controllers, not a fan of japanese style RPG's and games.

XBOX One - Used games unknown, 24 hour DRM check, Price is $100 more

So I don't know what to do, I can afford to get both but I'm asking myself why? When I could put that portion into upgrading my PC. So still on the fence, though leaning toward the PS4 (and this coming from an Xbox fan who only uses his current PS3 as a blue-ray player)

  Torvaldr

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6/11/13 3:46:34 PM#26
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol calerex

You think Google and Apple are shitting themselves over win 8 and having to radically redesign their OSs to keep up. Win 8 is a huge flop, its sold less than Vista, which Is why Microsoft are radically redesigning their OS. As for winphones - lol.

Bloody hell do you work for Microsoft!

You're kidding me right?  Apple is completely redesigning iOS with iOS 7 which will release late this summer or early fall.  It's cool to trash talk Microsoft, but they did up the game for the mobile UI.  I doubt Apple will let itself get left in the dust, but once again Linux and Android will be playing "last gen" like they always do.  Android ended up being little more than a poor iOS clone.

I just dumped my Galaxy S3 off on my son for a Lumia 928 and it's awesome.  The UI just works.

I'm still not going to buy an overpriced PC (PS4/XB1) but if I did, one strong selling point is the integration between all my devices and the much improved UI.  The XB1 has that.

The main 2 differences between the PS and XB are the region lock and online verification.  The price isn't that much different.  Sony just sold a bare bones model for $100 less, but if you include their version of kinect then it's only $40.  They both have services required for online play.  They both come stock with crappy 500GB hds.  Their processing power is practically identical.

Bloody hell do you work for Redhat?

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  Slampig

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Joined: 12/29/03
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Whatever you do, do NOT speak ill of Asheron's Call 2...

6/11/13 3:49:47 PM#27
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Stick with pc.

Might switch to Linux when it takes off as a gaming platform. Which it will.

Android - basicly a flavour of nix
Ios - ditto
Ps4 - ditto
Google tv - ditto
Steam box - ditto.

Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot with xbone and win 8. They are the new IBM, giant already Indecline.

Various favours of Unix will be the future of gaming. Likes of valve, Apple and Google will get behind open gl, microsofts monopoly through direct x will die.

What are the numbers for the big money lotto this weekend, Nostradamus?

 

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  ElRenmazuo

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6/11/13 3:55:25 PM#28
Originally posted by coretex666

PC Only.

This whole console boom and its potential impact on MMORPGs makes me sad.

Not that current MMORPGs were shining with depth and complexity, but something tells me that if the developers want to make games for console crowd which represents a huge market, they will have to adjust the games to these customers' expectations / wants / demands.

Maybe I am just prejudiced and wrong, but I think that console players are looking for quick arcade fun rather than games with depth and complexity. I was hoping that with more orientation towards sandbox, the trend of simplifying the MMORPGs will reverse, but this indicates that it will continue.

If I am competely wrong, please tell me.

If console fans werent looking for depth and complexity than how do you explain the popularity of Metal Gear Solid Series and upcoming titles like Beyond: Two Souls and the fact that most of the games that are coming out have Open World gameplay even MGS5.  And than you got Destiny and The Division.  Your mistaking PS4/Xbox fans for Nintendo fans.  Not to mention how many fans of the Ico series has been wanting something to hear about The Last Guardian.

  Dreamo84

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Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 2731

I actually still like MMORPGs

6/11/13 4:02:56 PM#29
I just built a new PC but I also pre-ordered a PS4 after seeing those exclusives! I have a Vita already so that cross function will be nice.

  Calerxes

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6/11/13 4:23:21 PM#30
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by Calerxes
I'm going for Xbox One as its a more versatile unit than the PS4 and I feel Microsoft for the first time are actually innovating and thinking of the future. The Xbox One is aimed at the whole family use not just the gamers which for me is where they'll beat Sony. I used to avoid Microsoft products and dual booted Linux for years, but I now use Windows 8 and Windows 8 Phone and soon an Xbox One and maybe a Surface but certainly a Windows 8 Tablet as well. I then can then have all my devices linked and speaking the same language and this is what Microsoft are pushing forward with and no other company can offer such an interconnected and simple set of systems. 

 

 

The radical direction Windows 8 is taking computer devices has caught the competition cold and they are now having to play catch up with Apple, Google and Blackberry redesigning their OS's to be more friendly to touch and mobile devices. Once people get used to metro on mobile devices they'll wonder what all the negative fuss was about and with Xbox One they'll get to use it in there living rooms. But the real beauty is that finally after 20 years we finally have proper competition in the OS market its just now for Apple and Google to step up. Xbox One could be the first all purpose computer device at the heart of family life and that for me is a breakthrough and as its basically a computer its should be good for gamers as the days of hardware specific games will become a thing of the past. You just choose what service you access your games from. PS Network, Steam, Xbox Live and maybe more.  




You're not going to access games from the PS Network or Steam on the XBox One.

 

 

I meant in the future, specific consoles will be obsolete the whole gaming industry is moving to services the tech will be agnostic. This is probably the last console war, all that will be left is services. Xbox itself is not a gaming platform anymore its a suite of services Music, Film, TV, Books and Games and the Xbox One is a realisation of this strategy. Sony themselves are just behind the curve and I imagine Steam with eventually change, its already stocking Software and I bet they are looking at other things. Enjoy the last "my consoles better than yours" debates. 

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  Calerxes

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6/11/13 4:25:27 PM#31
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol calerex

You think Google and Apple are shitting themselves over win 8 and having to radically redesign their OSs to keep up. Win 8 is a huge flop, its sold less than Vista, which Is why Microsoft are radically redesigning their OS. As for winphones - lol.

Bloody hell do you work for Microsoft!

If you cannot even get my Internet name right, should I even take the rest of the post seriously? I'd calm down first I didn't come around to your house and shoot your cat, just breath it helps.

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  ShakyMo

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6/11/13 4:31:07 PM#32
No its moving away from freely pulling services and locking you into hardware.

Xbox will only let you buy online through microsoft
Ps4 might allow steam like ps3, but I doubt it.
Apple force you to buy through them on their kit.
Microsoft force you to buy their front screen crap through them on pc with win 8. They would love to make win 9 an xbox like setup where all games have to come through ms.
Steam box will limit you to steam
Amazons pad thing limits you to them
Android heavily pushes Google play

Platforms are getting more closed. Apple and Microsoft are at the forefront of this "revoloution"
  lizardbones

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Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 10377

I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

 
OP  6/11/13 4:39:39 PM#33


Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by lizardbones I selected PS4, because it's focused on gaming, the PS+ membership seems reasonable, and if I have the PS4, I'd be a lot less likely to upgrade my PC.
Yep.

I might actually sell my PC and Xbox 360 and pre-order a PS4 and buy a used PS3.




Whoa, that's just crazy talk there.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  lizardbones

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I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

 
OP  6/11/13 4:43:47 PM#34


Originally posted by Calerxes

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Calerxes I'm going for Xbox One as its a more versatile unit than the PS4 and I feel Microsoft for the first time are actually innovating and thinking of the future. The Xbox One is aimed at the whole family use not just the gamers which for me is where they'll beat Sony. I used to avoid Microsoft products and dual booted Linux for years, but I now use Windows 8 and Windows 8 Phone and soon an Xbox One and maybe a Surface but certainly a Windows 8 Tablet as well. I then can then have all my devices linked and speaking the same language and this is what Microsoft are pushing forward with and no other company can offer such an interconnected and simple set of systems.      The radical direction Windows 8 is taking computer devices has caught the competition cold and they are now having to play catch up with Apple, Google and Blackberry redesigning their OS's to be more friendly to touch and mobile devices. Once people get used to metro on mobile devices they'll wonder what all the negative fuss was about and with Xbox One they'll get to use it in there living rooms. But the real beauty is that finally after 20 years we finally have proper competition in the OS market its just now for Apple and Google to step up. Xbox One could be the first all purpose computer device at the heart of family life and that for me is a breakthrough and as its basically a computer its should be good for gamers as the days of hardware specific games will become a thing of the past. You just choose what service you access your games from. PS Network, Steam, Xbox Live and maybe more.  
You're not going to access games from the PS Network or Steam on the XBox One.  
 

I meant in the future, specific consoles will be obsolete the whole gaming industry is moving to services the tech will be agnostic. This is probably the last console war, all that will be left is services. Xbox itself is not a gaming platform anymore its a suite of services Music, Film, TV, Books and Games and the Xbox One is a realisation of this strategy. Sony themselves are just behind the curve and I imagine Steam with eventually change, its already stocking Software and I bet they are looking at other things. Enjoy the last "my consoles better than yours" debates. 




Gotcher.

It is interesting that there are several players in the market who will stream games to clients rather than have them execute on clients. There also Nvidia's plan to have games stream from an Nvidia powered PC to their handheld client, and Sony's idea of streaming games from the PS4 to the Vita. It's all kind of cool.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  lizardbones

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I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

 
OP  6/11/13 4:47:46 PM#35


Originally posted by ShakyMo
No its moving away from freely pulling services and locking you into hardware.Xbox will only let you buy online through microsoftPs4 might allow steam like ps3, but I doubt it.Apple force you to buy through them on their kit.Microsoft force you to buy their front screen crap through them on pc with win 8. They would love to make win 9 an xbox like setup where all games have to come through ms.Steam box will limit you to steamAmazons pad thing limits you to themAndroid heavily pushes Google playPlatforms are getting more closed. Apple and Microsoft are at the forefront of this "revoloution"


Yup. I'm a bit saddened by this. It might change with streaming services, but even there you're probably going to be locked into specific platforms. The same thing is happening with streaming movies and television. You can't get just Hulu, you need Hulu and Netflix, or you have to pick the one that has what you want.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  Calerxes

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6/11/13 4:52:55 PM#36
Originally posted by ShakyMo
No its moving away from freely pulling services and locking you into hardware.

Xbox will only let you buy online through microsoft
Ps4 might allow steam like ps3, but I doubt it.
Apple force you to buy through them on their kit.
Microsoft force you to buy their front screen crap through them on pc with win 8. They would love to make win 9 an xbox like setup where all games have to come through ms.
Steam box will limit you to steam
Amazons pad thing limits you to them
Android heavily pushes Google play

Platforms are getting more closed. Apple and Microsoft are at the forefront of this "revoloution"

 

These new consoles are basic PC's thats all and people will start to demand that they access all services through them and Microsoft have been seeing this for years, they even had Microsoft entertainment PC's a few years ago, the market wasn't ready for it though. Xbox One is just a new attempt to get Windows at the heart of the living room, others have to step up or the market will go back to being a monopoly, Google are watching this closely as well as Apple. Apple were rumored to have a game console in the making a few years ago and I hope them and Google take a leaf out of Microsoft's book and make an all in one similar to Xbox One, Sony really have missed a trick here, Google and Apple have the services already to go they just need to put together a basic PC in a box run a new improved Android/OS7 and sell it on the back of Android phones and tablets, Iphones and Ipads. Then you will have real competition in the market place and an open access platform will be the most popular not a locked down one.

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  mari3k

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6/11/13 4:57:20 PM#37

Normaly I would only go for PC ... well but theres MGS5 ... only for this game I will buy the PS4 (same I did with PS3 and MGS4).

 

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  bestever

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6/11/13 5:07:42 PM#38
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol calerex

You think Google and Apple are shitting themselves over win 8 and having to radically redesign their OSs to keep up. Win 8 is a huge flop, its sold less than Vista, which Is why Microsoft are radically redesigning their OS. As for winphones - lol.

Bloody hell do you work for Microsoft!

I know right lol at windows 8.1 phones which is one of the highest rated phones you can get. Look up the Nokia 920 and see what people are saying. They would take it over android or the I phone.

  Myria

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6/11/13 5:12:13 PM#39
Originally posted by coretex666

This whole console boom and its potential impact on MMORPGs makes me sad.

Not that current MMORPGs were shining with depth and complexity, but something tells me that if the developers want to make games for console crowd which represents a huge market, they will have to adjust the games to these customers' expectations / wants / demands.

To be honest I expect all you have to do is look at Defiance to see the future, sad to say. Oh, it can be fun as hell to play, to be sure, but it has all the depth of a parking lot puddle and, even without the non-stop bugs, quickly grows old. One starter area and storyline. A main quest that takes a day, maybe two, to finish, and a world you can drive from one end of to the other in less than fifteen minutes. Content so easy you can literally do everything in the game with your starter weapon. No crafting, no AH, no bank, no mail. Utterly horrid and mostly broken chat and clan (guild) systems. VoIP that's... Well, good for amusement value and not much else. A console UI that's downright painful to use on the PC.

 

Hopefully TESO, Destiny, et al will manage to do a bit better than Trion has with Defiance -- it's hard to imagine anyone doing worse -- but end the end I expect the same fundamental flaws will be there.

  jpnz

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6/11/13 5:14:32 PM#40
Pc and PS4 for me.

Not hard to get high ratings when your market share is below 4% like the Windows mobile platform. ROFL.

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