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  Torvaldr

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6/11/13 2:31:36 PM#41

Full action combat games don't have auto-attack.  Hybrid action-combat games with soft targeting sometimes have this feature.  Most every hard tab-targeted rng combat style has auto-attack.

Saying the game is going to fail or be relegated to niche due to no auto-attack.  Pinning the success of WoW on auto-attack is pushing the envelope of mental gymnastics to say the least.

OP stay with RNG based combat games and you should be good to go.  Don't expect action combat games to sport the same features.  They work differently.

Curse you AquaScum!

  vonryan123

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6/11/13 3:07:10 PM#42

I have tested this game ....outside of saying that I can't talk about features but!....ohh nvm

 

It's hard to figure out if your trolling or you really care about an auto attack

That said as a side note look at your subject line and ask yourself why someone might think auto attack is your issue

I say this because you stated earlier that its was "just one" reason.......

If you have more than one issue post it .....seeing as you havent played the game at the end of the day you have no leg to stand on about the game itself. So far other then continued emo rage on others who dont share your griefs you have yet to state anything of value. If you have other issues with this game I would love to hear them.

  Sho0terMcgavin

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6/11/13 4:27:28 PM#43
Originally posted by simplius

maybe , thats why they went for the cartoon style,,to lure in wow players

if it really is wow in Space, they should do fine

but , it looks like the combat will be more like TERA

and how well did TERA do?

Just because you suck hard at Tera's superior combat system, doesn't mean it was fail.  In fact, the combat system in Tera is the main selling point.  Your point is stupid.  Go back to WoW.

  Roguewiz

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6/11/13 4:46:14 PM#44

/attack and go afk is boring.  Been there, done that.  Everquest anyone?

While WoW does have auto-attack, you really can't do the above.  Everquest had the benefit have having fewer abilities in the early going, so a Warrior could afk kill something.  WoW, not so much.  White damage is ok, but ability damage will get the job done.  Regardless though, the combat is stale and boring.

Action oriented combat is the way of the future.  It keeps players focused in the game and prevents them from falling asleep (mostly) at the keyboard with boring combat.

However good combat doesn't make the game.  Without a solid progression, decent story, and something more than those horrible, generic, boring, crappy, "been there, done that" quests; games won't be AAA (even if the IP is totally awesome)

Wildstar is a minor blip on my radar, but that huge blip about to be announced is drowning it out (EQN)

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  Alverad

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6/14/13 4:57:41 AM#45
Originally posted by simplius

apparantly, there will no autoattack in wildstar

spamming the same attack button over and over, even in an fight with trash mobs, isnt challenging

its a TIMESINK

it isnt content, either,,i doubt, that it will stop botting too

im so disappointed, i had high hopes for this game

didnt they learn ANYTHING from tortanic?

cancelled my preorder, this was one of the things, that drove me away from swtor

and you dont HAVE to use autoattack,,you can simply turn it off

this is like a car,with only one gear,,enjoy

Cancelled your preorder, really? :p  While I personally agree the auto attack gives a nice flow to combat, you made no argument for it, and coming up with a lie to support your opinion is a rather childish approach lol.

 

  Derros

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Posts: 1012

6/14/13 9:37:23 AM#46

Yep, in WoW, I would just go start auto cursing things on my warlock, just start auto - fireballing on my mage, auto Lightingbolting on my Shaman.

 

Not every class needs autoattack

 

Melee doesnt either if the attacks are properly tuned, with proper cooldowns and animations, combat will still flow

 

You talk about niche, MMOs are niche games, they always have been.  WoW is the only abnormality, one that can NEVER be replicated, no matter what features are present.

  Havekk

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Posts: 1369

6/14/13 9:42:03 AM#47
Originally posted by Xivik

SWTOR failed because of no auto attack?

I always thought it was:

- a horrible optimized, slow engine

-bug infested galore that doesn't get fixed

- animation delay that took months to fix

- heavily instanced single player feel gameplay

- rotten balance across the board

- no communications about bugs/problems for months after release

- the blatant money grab milk it while we can cash grab it turned into after it went f2p.

 

But now you mention it, yes having no auto attack caused me to unsub -_-"

SWTOR failed? Thanks for the update. I'm currently playing and there are a shit ton of people in game. I will let them all know it failed so we can move on LOL. 

 

Seriously though, auto-attack or not, as long as it's a fun game to play, I don't mind. 

  Thresh

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Posts: 58

6/15/13 4:11:36 AM#48

The most hilarious thing about the topic is that ws does have auto-attack.

 

Tip: look up a website called "youtube".

  donjn

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6/25/13 2:24:04 PM#49
Originally posted by simplius

but , it looks like the combat will be more like TERA

and how well did TERA do?

This one post tells me more about you than anything else.

Just about everyone is in the industry agreed that it was Tera's dull questing that sunk it, not the combat.

 

  DamonVile

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6/25/13 2:39:51 PM#50
Originally posted by donjn
Originally posted by simplius

but , it looks like the combat will be more like TERA

and how well did TERA do?

This one post tells me more about you than anything else.

Just about everyone is in the industry agreed that it was Tera's dull questing that sunk it, not the combat.

 

I agree and as a long time tera player, I never get sick of the combat it's the dull questing that sends me on a break from time to time. If they had combat like this in a game that actually had more to do I may have a home for a long time.

 

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  TheHavok

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6/25/13 10:20:32 PM#51
Originally posted by simplius

apparantly, there will no autoattack in wildstar

spamming the same attack button over and over, even in an fight with trash mobs, isnt challenging

its a TIMESINK

it isnt content, either,,i doubt, that it will stop botting too

im so disappointed, i had high hopes for this game

didnt they learn ANYTHING from tortanic?

cancelled my preorder, this was one of the things, that drove me away from swtor

and you dont HAVE to use autoattack,,you can simply turn it off

this is like a car,with only one gear,,enjoy

But you can't preorder the game yet... so you wouldn't have anything to cancel.
 

soooooo.....why u gotta lie brah?

  Robokapp

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6/25/13 10:23:57 PM#52
Originally posted by TheHavok
Originally posted by simplius

apparantly, there will no autoattack in wildstar

spamming the same attack button over and over, even in an fight with trash mobs, isnt challenging

its a TIMESINK

it isnt content, either,,i doubt, that it will stop botting too

im so disappointed, i had high hopes for this game

didnt they learn ANYTHING from tortanic?

cancelled my preorder, this was one of the things, that drove me away from swtor

and you dont HAVE to use autoattack,,you can simply turn it off

this is like a car,with only one gear,,enjoy

But you can't preorder the game yet... so you wouldn't have anything to cancel.
 

soooooo.....why u gotta lie brah?

he be trollin'

  TheHavok

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6/25/13 10:28:37 PM#53
  Nitetasia

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6/27/13 1:34:25 PM#54
Originally posted by donjn
Originally posted by simplius

but , it looks like the combat will be more like TERA

and how well did TERA do?

This one post tells me more about you than anything else.

Just about everyone is in the industry agreed that it was Tera's dull questing that sunk it, not the combat.

 

I have to agree with this.. I LOVED Tera's combat... and the only reason I stopped was the boring questing.

As for the graphics, I hated WOWs character design but loved the over all graphics.

So for Wildstar to have very cool character designs and the over all graphics is a win for me :) On top of that, to have a fun battle system and paths to change the game to how I like to play is a great idea.

But anyway, auto attack (to me) is just someone wanting to be lazy.. thats one step too close to having the game play on its own O_o...

  Andre2160

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Joined: 6/04/06
Posts: 2

6/28/13 6:46:12 AM#55
This game is like wow clone. Heavily targeted on kids. I got no sci-fi feeling from this wtf. Wow with few scifi si not scifi. Grafic is charmless. I wold rather play Tabula Rasa or anarchy then this. Uninstall in 1 hour.
  neorandom

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Posts: 1753

6/29/13 12:43:40 AM#56
Originally posted by simplius

apparantly, there will no autoattack in wildstar

spamming the same attack button over and over, even in an fight with trash mobs, isnt challenging

its a TIMESINK

it isnt content, either,,i doubt, that it will stop botting too

im so disappointed, i had high hopes for this game

didnt they learn ANYTHING from tortanic?

cancelled my preorder, this was one of the things, that drove me away from swtor

and you dont HAVE to use autoattack,,you can simply turn it off

this is like a car,with only one gear,,enjoy

sir eve is the game for you then, all it has it auto attack.  get into range, lock on, turn on weapons, go do whatever, come back, loot kill or find yourself dead and start over.  and eve is the most niche game ever.

  Ramanadjinn

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6/29/13 12:53:34 AM#57

interesting.  i somehow managed to get 5 characters in SWTOR to max level and never noticed there was no auto attack.

its strange what some people find important and others do not.

  Ramonski7

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6/29/13 1:07:47 AM#58
Originally posted by simplius

apparantly, there will no autoattack in wildstar

spamming the same attack button over and over, even in an fight with trash mobs, isnt challenging

its a TIMESINK

it isnt content, either,,i doubt, that it will stop botting too

im so disappointed, i had high hopes for this game

didnt they learn ANYTHING from tortanic?

cancelled my preorder, this was one of the things, that drove me away from swtor

and you dont HAVE to use autoattack,,you can simply turn it off

this is like a car,with only one gear,,enjoy

Why are all these superficial complaints popping up so much?

  • No auto attack....FAIL
  • I have to kill bunnies?!.....FAIL
  • No non-consensual PvP?...FAIL
  • Instance zones....FAIL

Players don't look for worlds, lore or themes anymore in mmorpgs. They look for auto attacks, cross-serverless LFG tools and non-instanced PvP. It's so superficially stupid. But who am I to judge? There are enough mmorpgs around now where players can afford to be picky I guess. Even if they'll never really pick anything...


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  kiraveli

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6/29/13 4:13:49 AM#59
Originally posted by TheHavok

Best gif ever ILU <3

 

On topic though...I agree. I stopped playing beta cause I'm sick of 1. 111111111111 2. 11111111111111111 2. I have to spam 1 to build points to use my other stuff, and 1 isn't just a single combo point builder I have to hit it about 3 times to get the point. It's repetitive and boring. Wildstar basically has GW2 combat, which I personally hated. Not my type of combat =(

To be positive, the movement is nice and fluid, and the cartoony artstyle is fairly cute! Quests with GW2 combat just yuck.

  Doogiehowser

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6/29/13 4:19:52 AM#60
Originally posted by steamtank
Originally posted by simplius

i dont play for "effeciency",,,i play for FUN

i dont raid, and i VERY rarely PVP

welcome to another mmo with 3-400k subs

they may sell a lot of boxes, but within a year, they will be at the same level as swtor

and, do you think, this is what the devs want? or do they want to earn a lot of Money?

 

you dont raid and you are following Wildstar O_o

the game is being developed by raiders... sure they have lots of other goodies... but 40 man raids promised to wipe you over and over, thats why i am here.

 

auto attack isnt why swtor did poorly.

After reading your post i thought it was 2004. WOW called and wants its 40 main raids back.

By the way SWTOR had no auto attack at release. Not sure if they added it now or not.

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