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  Alakor

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Joined: 3/27/12
Posts: 45

6/01/13 9:03:03 PM#121
Trion is prolly the shittiest western studio nowadays, since Hartsman leftt it whatever trion has its shit
  seafirex

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Joined: 12/08/06
Posts: 241

6/01/13 9:10:41 PM#122

I don't know if anyone else see what is coming up but. Don't defend the cash shop please. 

Everything that will be on that cash shop wont be as easy as it is now to get. Because it will make no sense at all to put it in a cash shop.

Every F2P game out there starts with items dropping easy and in good quantities then they slowly change the rate of the drops to almost nil. Because they need you to spend in the shop to keep the game going. 

They are a business and need to keep the servers running and it cost money to do that. So don't get any hopes up.

If they sell bags 4k plat. Do you really think they will have them easy to get in game???? And those player's buying items with real cash form the shop for how many plats in-game?? Think you will make plats as fast when it goes F2P ?????.

 

edit : I was starting to like that on top of that . Well i will try the free version to see if i am wrong but i wont get my hopes up right away

 

  velmax

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Joined: 3/13/11
Posts: 206

6/02/13 1:44:50 AM#123
Originally posted by Arrogant_Wormy

Wow... I mean just wow..

 

The cash shop is so full of weapons, armor, mounts, and pretty much everything. My guild defends it saying it isn't top raid gear... but who cares. I am so tired of watching games I love go F2P or shut down. I hate cash shops, and this one just takes the cake. They even sell bags! A top end bag goes for 4000P or roughly $20!!!

 

http://flic.kr/ps/PGTuU - Flickr box with the screen captures.

1. Um.. first off your talking bad about a system that isn't even out yet! Trion has clearly stated that things will change before going live.

2. Raid gear is not in the cash shop, and the best pvp gear isn't either so if you buy the dungeon gear i can still kick your ass in pvp!

3. 99% of the items in the store are also able to purchase in plat! meaning that id don't have to spend money!

4.Gear crates have crappy gear compared to raid gear

5. Trion is and still is one of the best companies

6. Dont judge the F2P system until it is released!

7.Patrons get tons of perks, and they also announced a weekly donation of chests and keys

8.  Rift team and Archage Teams are two different TEAMS! 

9. Rex will let people get credits for free and get plat!

10. 2 new raids are coming in 2.4 (IM EXCITED!!)

  nickster29

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Joined: 12/14/08
Posts: 487

6/02/13 2:00:05 AM#124

Well, it is unfortunate they are selling any stat gear (even if it isn't raid gear!) in the cash shop.  Was really looking forward to going back to try out Rift as F2P.  

 

I don't mind cosmetic items, exp boosters, mounts, and other vanity items in a cash shop.

 

Ah well, I will remember my time in Rift fondly (I quit prior to Storm Legion), but I shall not be returning while weapons and armor are available in the cash shop.

  Robokapp

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Joined: 11/15/09
Posts: 4530

The only luck I had today was to have you as my opponent.

6/02/13 2:00:58 AM#125
Originally posted by Grailer

It's just business to sell things that appeal to people . If people are willing to pay for it then that's good they are supporting your FREE game .

 

You get to game for FREE and they get to waste money on stuff you know you can obtain by playing .

 

Everyone wins and everyone is happy .

is that what you're seeing here ? everyone being happy ?

 

in a very old play, where the word "robot" is first mentioned one of the main characters (human) notices the robots are equipped with the ability to feel pain - so they don't damage themselves and try to keep themselves functional - but no other emotions. She thinks that if they'd have full emotions they'd understand how much humans love and appreciate them and we'd all live together as one big happy family.

 

can you guess the result ?

 

1) we're better than you. We're faster, stronger, smarter.

2) we are your slaves. despite our superiority.

3) we are designed to be like you.

 

Therefore, from 1, 2 and 3 results that in order to be more like you we must eliminate your kind and secure ourselves as the sole masters of the world. Just like you'd do if you were in our position.

  Karelia

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Joined: 1/21/12
Posts: 688

6/02/13 2:06:20 AM#126
Originally posted by velmax
Originally posted by Arrogant_Wormy

Wow... I mean just wow..

 

The cash shop is so full of weapons, armor, mounts, and pretty much everything. My guild defends it saying it isn't top raid gear... but who cares. I am so tired of watching games I love go F2P or shut down. I hate cash shops, and this one just takes the cake. They even sell bags! A top end bag goes for 4000P or roughly $20!!!

 

http://flic.kr/ps/PGTuU - Flickr box with the screen captures.

1. Um.. first off your talking bad about a system that isn't even out yet! Trion has clearly stated that things will change before going live.

2. Raid gear is not in the cash shop, and the best pvp gear isn't either so if you buy the dungeon gear i can still kick your ass in pvp!

3. 99% of the items in the store are also able to purchase in plat! meaning that id don't have to spend money!

4.Gear crates have crappy gear compared to raid gear

5. Trion is and still is one of the best companies

6. Dont judge the F2P system until it is released!

7.Patrons get tons of perks, and they also announced a weekly donation of chests and keys

8.  Rift team and Archage Teams are two different TEAMS! 

9. Rex will let people get credits for free and get plat!

10. 2 new raids are coming in 2.4 (IM EXCITED!!)

 

+1

  Adokas

Novice Member

Joined: 10/06/12
Posts: 221

6/02/13 3:44:37 AM#127
Originally posted by Robokapp
Originally posted by Grailer

It's just business to sell things that appeal to people . If people are willing to pay for it then that's good they are supporting your FREE game .

 

You get to game for FREE and they get to waste money on stuff you know you can obtain by playing .

 

Everyone wins and everyone is happy .

is that what you're seeing here ? everyone being happy ?

 

in a very old play, where the word "robot" is first mentioned one of the main characters (human) notices the robots are equipped with the ability to feel pain - so they don't damage themselves and try to keep themselves functional - but no other emotions. She thinks that if they'd have full emotions they'd understand how much humans love and appreciate them and we'd all live together as one big happy family.

 

can you guess the result ?

 

1) we're better than you. We're faster, stronger, smarter.

2) we are your slaves. despite our superiority.

3) we are designed to be like you.

 

Therefore, from 1, 2 and 3 results that in order to be more like you we must eliminate your kind and secure ourselves as the sole masters of the world. Just like you'd do if you were in our position.

I liked this. Great post :> That's exactly how things become eventually in F2P games. The high payers who sustain the game want more and more and more for their money. Else, what is the point of paying, yes?

  Arthasm

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/26/09
Posts: 632

6/02/13 4:25:19 AM#128

I don't blame Trion at all. I salute them. Cash shop is freaking awesome. Can't wait to see how they will milk money from stupid, retarded, imbecile players without single nanogram of brain. F2P is future. Future is dumb. Why I need to waste my empty brain cells on hard bosses (which wrotten tactic is not longer than 200 letters) to get gear, when I can buy it ("Look, nab, I got better gear than you, gtfo scrub")!

Ok, now, it's not at all big deal, that cash shop, but will become problem when you group with cashshoppers with imba gear, but no brain. As someone already said, they will nerf shit out of raids/mechanic to catter for casuals (read: dumb shoppers).

GG.

  Lumm

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/01/09
Posts: 130

6/02/13 4:29:55 AM#129
I'm still shocked that they have any max level gear in there period. That is totally unacceptable in my book. I was a huge Trion supporter before and this just kills off this company for me. I'll take my time else where, thankfully FFXIV is coming up real soon.
  Kazuhiro

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Joined: 8/03/07
Posts: 389

6/02/13 4:33:43 AM#130
Originally posted by Arrogant_Wormy
Originally posted by Grunty
Equivalent bags are readily available from other players in the auction house. This isn't an asian game where the only way to get more bag space is to pay cash for it.

Does it matter.... you can buy the currency for the shop from other players too. Doesn't change the fact that they are doing it.

I am so tired of Free 2 Play games and cash shops, that I am writing off the 11 months left on my year sub, because they will not refund it.

For the love of god man, you can get your money back if it's only been one month, credit card chargeback, paypal dispute, whatever payment you used short of money order has a way to get your money back after only a month. Don't waste your money by doing nothing.

JeroKane: In TSW your gear has NO stats whatsoever! But only via trinkets and talismans.

Myself: Please, stop posting, I can't breath I'm laughing so hard at that statement.

  Karelia

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Joined: 1/21/12
Posts: 688

6/02/13 4:35:38 AM#131
Originally posted by Arthasm

I don't blame Trion at all. I salute them. Cash shop is freaking awesome. Can't wait to see how they will milk money from stupid, retarded, imbecile players without single nanogram of brain. F2P is future. Future is dumb. Why I need to waste my empty brain cells on hard bosses (which wrotten tactic is not longer than 200 letters) to get gear, when I can buy it ("Look, nab, I got better gear than you, gtfo scrub")!

Ok, now, it's not at all big deal, that cash shop, but will become problem when you group with cashshoppers with imba gear, but no brain. As someone already said, they will nerf shit out of raids/mechanic to catter for casuals (read: dumb shoppers).

GG.

 

wow is p2p but can you imagine if the hc dungeons were like tbc ones? can you imagine yourself doing shattered halls hc with lfg? i dont even mention raiding. just imagine tbc hc's.

so cash shops are not the cause. companies made the community like this and you know something? most ppl like it. they want casualness. most of them don't want to spent hours after hours to complete a single hc dungeon. either some1 likes it or not, this is the truth anymore.

  Averros

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 6/17/09
Posts: 130

There is no innocence, only degree's of guilt!

 
OP  6/02/13 4:21:35 PM#132
Originally posted by Kazuhiro
Originally posted by Arrogant_Wormy
Originally posted by Grunty
Equivalent bags are readily available from other players in the auction house. This isn't an asian game where the only way to get more bag space is to pay cash for it.

Does it matter.... you can buy the currency for the shop from other players too. Doesn't change the fact that they are doing it.

I am so tired of Free 2 Play games and cash shops, that I am writing off the 11 months left on my year sub, because they will not refund it.

For the love of god man, you can get your money back if it's only been one month, credit card chargeback, paypal dispute, whatever payment you used short of money order has a way to get your money back after only a month. Don't waste your money by doing nothing.

Actually my bank has stated I need to go to Trion for a refund as I use a Visa Debit card (I do not keep normal credit cards, cancelled them all a while back)... this is the first time I have ever tried to charge anything back. I will just take it as a lesson learned to NEVER buy a year sub again. *shrug*

  Averros

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Joined: 6/17/09
Posts: 130

There is no innocence, only degree's of guilt!

 
OP  6/02/13 4:23:24 PM#133
Now that I have had some time to relax and ponder the shop. I really don't care anymore. If you like the shop and the move to free to play great, I am glad you have your game. I for one do not like cash shops, and have tried to look passed it an cannot, so I will move on and wish you all the best of luck.
  GoodAfternoon

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Joined: 3/23/08
Posts: 251

6/02/13 8:15:10 PM#134
Originally posted by Abimor
Originally posted by Arrogant_Wormy

Wow... I mean just wow..

 

 A top end bag goes for 4000P or roughly $20!!!

 

 

That is sad I was hoping they would not go crazy with the prices

This bag has been in game for 8 months.........

It's also only 32 slots vs the 28 slot bags which cost about 60 plat to be crafted. 

Rift

  Synthetick

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Joined: 2/03/07
Posts: 997

6/08/13 9:52:20 AM#135
Originally posted by Arrogant_Wormy
Now that I have had some time to relax and ponder the shop. I really don't care anymore. If you like the shop and the move to free to play great, I am glad you have your game. I for one do not like cash shops, and have tried to look passed it an cannot, so I will move on and wish you all the best of luck.

We're in the same boat.

I think what most who are defending the game are failing to miss is that while yes, everything in the cash shop is available via means of plat, the amount of plat the items are going to cost is going to start off ridiculously high and only go higher as the initial surge of F2P try it out, then move on.

Mechanics on gateway encounters will be nerfed to accommodate the influx of players who bought their pre-raid gear, then further tiers of content will suffer the same fate.

Ah, well, more power to the ones who will continue to play and support the game, I suppose.

  achesoma

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6/08/13 10:08:38 AM#136
Sadly, cash shop is where it's at.  Companies make a killing from impulse shoppers.  I'm pretty shocked players can buy end-game raid gear though.  Even EA/SWTOR hasn't stooped that low yet lol.  Might bite them in the ass in the long run since players won't really have carrot to chase after.  Will be a nice little cash grab at first.  Business is business. 

  aspekx

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Joined: 12/24/05
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6/08/13 10:14:45 AM#137

dont forget the Rep element as well. there are a lot of items that one could buy, but then never equip because they still do not have the relevant rep with a particular fationl.

 

while the CS does sound pretty bad, things like the above still give me some hope.

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One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
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  velmax

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Joined: 3/13/11
Posts: 206

6/08/13 3:59:29 PM#138
Originally posted by achesoma
Sadly, cash shop is where it's at.  Companies make a killing from impulse shoppers.  I'm pretty shocked players can buy end-game raid gear though.  Even EA/SWTOR hasn't stooped that low yet lol.  Might bite them in the ass in the long run since players won't really have carrot to chase after.  Will be a nice little cash grab at first.  Business is business. 

You cant buy raid gear! they said this like 100000000000000 times!

  Xsorus

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6/08/13 4:12:26 PM#139

A. If all you do is dungeon at the end game, Why the hell would you spend real money on Dungeon Gear? I mean..Dungeons aren't exactly hard.. and i certainly would never spend money on that type of gear that I can easily get...If you're dumb enough to do that then that's your own fault.

B. The Dungeon Gear you can buy is being sold not for you, the person who's end game is nothing but dungeons, but for Raiders...and people who only raid..That's who the target market for that gear is..Because if they want to level a new character for raids they can simply spend plat on the gear now, or buy it instead of gearing out their new toon. That is the targeted market for that.

C. Unless something gives you a massive advantage in PVP, and you can't obtain it in the game very easily, crying about this cash shop is pointless.. They're giving you all the content of their game for free..Don't bitch about them trying to make some money that's not putting you at a disadvantage.

 

 

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  Yamota

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"I fight so you don't have to."

6/08/13 4:16:08 PM#140
It is so sad to see what this F2P debacle is doing to a genre I used to love. Paying to get gear that you would otherwise play to get? OMFG, its so stupid... 

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