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  DonVadim

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Joined: 4/22/10
Posts: 44

6/07/13 5:56:26 PM#21
I guess they decided to wait till all the upcoming sandboxes get released, so they can see if they do well and then steal the ideas from them. You know, just like they did with WoW. Copied everything that was the best in everquest and other mmos then just polished it and hyped with warcraft IP. 
 
  battlesam

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6/07/13 6:10:11 PM#22
Titan is not a mystery. There has been no real competitor for WoW yet. The company still brings in at a minimum 1 billion a year in revenue. So there is zero reason to make Titan a reality at this point. None, zilch. No intelligent billion dollar business will risk replacing Wow if they don't have to.
  wrightstuf

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6/07/13 6:22:16 PM#23
Originally posted by Dracondis
Blizzard:  Masters of Vaporware.
Blizzard had one game considered vaporware (starcraft ghost)...that makes them masters?
  Theocritus

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6/07/13 6:22:37 PM#24
Someone else nailed it on the head in another post when they said that Blizzard has to wait for EQN to come out so they can improve on it and dumb it down and call it their own........
  BluntedJ

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6/07/13 6:28:28 PM#25

Not sure if "sandbox" is the thing this year. Look at Star Wars Galaxies. Look at Eve. The former got screwed up with an upgraded combat system, the latter is still going.  Sandbox and themepark are not mutually exclusive. Sandbox means an open world where you can explore and do many things without being on rails. BUT you can still have rails for people - for example, the overall game story and the individual character's story have to progress . . . on rails (somewhat).

The problem, and you are right in pointing this out, is figuring out how to monetize it.  If they can come up with some innovative game mechanics, they should be good. Heck, 8 years ago there were no "events" (aka Rifts), so they can expound upon that.

  tyrlaan

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6/07/13 6:31:15 PM#26

I get that this is an op ed piece, but still - Kung Fu Panda joke? Kung Fu Panda came out after Bliz introduced pandaren. Meh. If you want to mock pandas, use a more accurate joke and call out that their first real appearance was an April Fool's joke.

Also, haven't the explicitly stated that Titan will be the introduction of a new IP? This won't be WoW2 or World of Starcraft, etc. It's something new.

 

  wrightstuf

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6/07/13 6:35:30 PM#27

Why are you even considering "sandbox" and "titan" in the same context? Blizzard made the most successful MMO of all time

based on a "themepark" design. You dont think for a second that Titan wont also be.

  Alalala

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6/07/13 7:24:13 PM#28
Blizzard's lost their mojo.
  Vandarix

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6/07/13 7:49:50 PM#29
Originally posted by BluntedJ

SERIOUSLY? Years after Titan's announcement, years after Starcraft came out and everyone still debates or acts all timid about what Titan is?

 

Listen...dollars to donuts...Titan = World of Starcraft (ok, Universe of Starcraft, or whatever).

 

Don't bother arguing. Why create a new IP? Diablo is too limited. It makes the most sense. And yet most of you out there are like "No!" - why, simply because you don't want to believe it? Simply because it would blow your mind?!?

 

You know, as an aside, I posted over a year and a half ago on another site about Titan = Universe of Starcraft. The author of the article was discussing what was going on with Titan at the time. He disagreed with my comment (which he is entitled to do), but his lame argument was that there was too much of a Korean fanbase for the "sport" aspect of Starcraft (a/k/a all those leagues). What a lame excuse - ahem, like those leaguesters won't make time for some Universe of Starcraft. Insane! Your dead mother is going to rise from the grave to play her some Universe of Starcraft - WITH GOOGLE GLASSES!!! I digress.

 

The Author is probably dead on - why release a competitor to WoW? Let me take it a bit further: Why not a) create all this mass confusion; b) make people think it's not an MMORPG Starcraft; c) announce that it is on hold and being restarted (more than once makes it sweeter); d) make people think Blizzard may be getting the "jitters" or is being plagued by that "sophmore second album" syndrome; in order to e) make insane amounts of money. This is classic!

 

The Author is probably dead on about another thing: it would make sense that Titan (a/k/a Universe of Starcraft) be more of a sandbox than a themepark.

 

Universe of Starcraft is not the greatest name, but you get the point.

 

Please bookmark this comment. Whenever it comes out I will have been right. And I will take $1.00 from each of you that disagrees. ;)

 

I CANNOT WAIT!!!

Great yet another fanboi that doesn't pay attention. It's not Starcraft or Diablo.. Its a whole new IP this information was leaked years ago.

  Vorch

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6/07/13 7:53:32 PM#30

They are busy stealing everything people have liked over the past 5 years of MMOs, placing the Blizzard logo on it, and saying they did it first.

...that was very biased, but I hate what Activision did...

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  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

6/07/13 8:06:31 PM#31

I will be straight forward,i consider Blizzard to be an amateur operation.No way a giant like that with a huge money backing should be as inept as they are.

I know it is just my opinion but Square's console game engine for FFXIV puts out a nicer lookign product thaty anything Blizzard owns.Square made a new game engine they were not happy with,then set out to make another for FFXIV ARR.What has Blizzard done with all that manpower and money....NOTHING.

They licensed a game engine and probably found out their staff either can't handle it or the engine is not as good as they thought,so much for going second rate when Epic games has the best tools out there.Of course Blizzard could always make their own game engine.

While Square was busy releasing FFXI on multi platform which eventually included the Xbox a platform they really didn't want because of lack of interest,Blizzard was struggling to port SC to the console.They hired outside and still didn't like the result,why on earth didn't they do it themselves?I'll tell you  why,they are incompetent and it is much easier to fail and blame someone else,you also get out of the money sink as well if the developer can not meet the standards set.

You know what is really scaring Blizzard right now?The thought  of failure and media attention if they can't garner the same numbers that Wow did.Diablo was somewhat of a failure,it really seems to me that Blizzard no longer has their faithful wrapped around their finger.

Blizzard will be in for a big surprise when they finally release the game and it doesn't garner the attention Wow did.

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  Shadowguy64

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6/07/13 8:06:35 PM#32
Originally posted by Vorch

They are busy stealing everything people have liked over the past 5 years of MMOs, placing the Blizzard logo on it, and saying they did it first.

...that was very biased, but I hate what Activision did...

 

Wait, you hate that they made an MMO with all the good stuff? 

 

They never once stated they created everything. They just made everything better. So ya...lets hate them for that.

/facepalm

  redcapp

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Joined: 5/13/11
Posts: 733

6/07/13 8:18:35 PM#33

The Blizzard that made the classics many of us actually enjoy doesn't exist anymore, so really, who gives a crap.

 

Posters up thread are correct.  WoW is already a huge cash cow; they have no reason to try to replace it.

  roblvsall

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Joined: 7/16/11
Posts: 2

6/07/13 9:20:14 PM#34
Cataclysm, for me, was the end of WOW. I mean really, 40 plus dollars for them to take the same tired maps and what? Add fire? What a slap in the face of their faithful players. Their problem is that they do not do anything about the outdated graphics, but let's make an expansion STOLEN from King Fu Panda? They even ran out of ides! Shame shame! Head to Neverwinter and see what your missing WOW fans.
  Raventree

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6/07/13 9:49:42 PM#35
I just wanted to know what kind of MMO an experienced developer with nearly infinite cash could make.  Apparently, the answer is nothing.  Ten million subs rakes in around 150 million dollars per MONTH and they haven't even updated WoW's engine or graphics.  What a lazy company.

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  stevebombsquad

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6/07/13 10:11:08 PM#36
Originally posted by Wizardry

I will be straight forward,i consider Blizzard to be an amateur operation.No way a giant like that with a huge money backing should be as inept as they are.

I know it is just my opinion but Square's console game engine for FFXIV puts out a nicer lookign product thaty anything Blizzard owns.Square made a new game engine they were not happy with,then set out to make another for FFXIV ARR.What has Blizzard done with all that manpower and money....NOTHING.

They licensed a game engine and probably found out their staff either can't handle it or the engine is not as good as they thought,so much for going second rate when Epic games has the best tools out there.Of course Blizzard could always make their own game engine.

While Square was busy releasing FFXI on multi platform which eventually included the Xbox a platform they really didn't want because of lack of interest,Blizzard was struggling to port SC to the console.They hired outside and still didn't like the result,why on earth didn't they do it themselves?I'll tell you  why,they are incompetent and it is much easier to fail and blame someone else,you also get out of the money sink as well if the developer can not meet the standards set.

You know what is really scaring Blizzard right now?The thought  of failure and media attention if they can't garner the same numbers that Wow did.Diablo was somewhat of a failure,it really seems to me that Blizzard no longer has their faithful wrapped around their finger.

Blizzard will be in for a big surprise when they finally release the game and it doesn't garner the attention Wow did.

Do you honestly think they see Diablo as a failure? It was the fastest selling PC game of all time.

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  steamtank

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6/07/13 10:18:19 PM#37
Originally posted by stevebombsquad
Originally posted by Wizardry

I will be straight forward,i consider Blizzard to be an amateur operation.No way a giant like that with a huge money backing should be as inept as they are.

I know it is just my opinion but Square's console game engine for FFXIV puts out a nicer lookign product thaty anything Blizzard owns.Square made a new game engine they were not happy with,then set out to make another for FFXIV ARR.What has Blizzard done with all that manpower and money....NOTHING.

They licensed a game engine and probably found out their staff either can't handle it or the engine is not as good as they thought,so much for going second rate when Epic games has the best tools out there.Of course Blizzard could always make their own game engine.

While Square was busy releasing FFXI on multi platform which eventually included the Xbox a platform they really didn't want because of lack of interest,Blizzard was struggling to port SC to the console.They hired outside and still didn't like the result,why on earth didn't they do it themselves?I'll tell you  why,they are incompetent and it is much easier to fail and blame someone else,you also get out of the money sink as well if the developer can not meet the standards set.

You know what is really scaring Blizzard right now?The thought  of failure and media attention if they can't garner the same numbers that Wow did.Diablo was somewhat of a failure,it really seems to me that Blizzard no longer has their faithful wrapped around their finger.

Blizzard will be in for a big surprise when they finally release the game and it doesn't garner the attention Wow did.

Do you honestly think they see Diablo as a failure? It was the fastest selling PC game of all time.

i bought D1,2,+3.... i will not buy 4.  D3 was an epic failure that only sold because of the good name the original Blizzard gave the IP.  Activision shot itself in the foot and it wont be really seen until they try to do a D4

  StonesDK

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6/07/13 10:26:52 PM#38
The only reason they are rebuilding this game from the ground up, is because the current build couldn't support the payment/micro transaction model they built the game around. The only thing that has changed since the conception of Titan and now is the explosive popularity of F2P and the downfall of Diablo 3's RMT scheme.
  StonesDK

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6/07/13 10:28:36 PM#39
Originally posted by stevebombsquad
Originally posted by Wizardry

I will be straight forward,i consider Blizzard to be an amateur operation.No way a giant like that with a huge money backing should be as inept as they are.

I know it is just my opinion but Square's console game engine for FFXIV puts out a nicer lookign product thaty anything Blizzard owns.Square made a new game engine they were not happy with,then set out to make another for FFXIV ARR.What has Blizzard done with all that manpower and money....NOTHING.

They licensed a game engine and probably found out their staff either can't handle it or the engine is not as good as they thought,so much for going second rate when Epic games has the best tools out there.Of course Blizzard could always make their own game engine.

While Square was busy releasing FFXI on multi platform which eventually included the Xbox a platform they really didn't want because of lack of interest,Blizzard was struggling to port SC to the console.They hired outside and still didn't like the result,why on earth didn't they do it themselves?I'll tell you  why,they are incompetent and it is much easier to fail and blame someone else,you also get out of the money sink as well if the developer can not meet the standards set.

You know what is really scaring Blizzard right now?The thought  of failure and media attention if they can't garner the same numbers that Wow did.Diablo was somewhat of a failure,it really seems to me that Blizzard no longer has their faithful wrapped around their finger.

Blizzard will be in for a big surprise when they finally release the game and it doesn't garner the attention Wow did.

Do you honestly think they see Diablo as a failure? It was the fastest selling PC game of all time.

Diablo 2 was still selling copies 10 years later. I doubt we will see that with D3 regardless of sales records. I do think Blizzard cares about retention rates and current playerbase considering the game is built around RMT:

  discord235

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6/07/13 10:40:01 PM#40
I wouldn't call Blizzard, "masters of design." I personally think it was being in the right place at the right time. 

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