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  Arskaaa

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Your chararacter gains experience and levels up, defining a role playing game.

6/06/13 12:14:17 PM#21
So much potential but pay to win:/
  Tsuru

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6/06/13 12:53:08 PM#22
Originally posted by Arskaaa
So much potential but pay to win:/

Its not pay to win. People who pay money do not get anything that gives an advantage over players who don't. I wish people would stop saying its pay to win.

  User Deleted
6/06/13 12:55:46 PM#23
Originally posted by Tsuru
Originally posted by Arskaaa
So much potential but pay to win:/

Its not pay to win. People who pay money do not get anything that gives an advantage over players who don't. I wish people would stop saying its pay to win.

Coalescent wards are borderline, but the fact you can change AD to Zen kinda counters that.

  Burntvet

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Joined: 11/16/07
Posts: 2800

6/06/13 12:58:18 PM#24
I guess they are tired of the automatic chargebacks (boo-hoo). In practical terms in regards to the game itself, so what, and who cares? As soon as they announced there would be no further server wipes, the game was live.
  kizan0601

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Joined: 11/05/08
Posts: 55

6/06/13 1:17:53 PM#25
This game is no where near ready to be released, still ton of bugs/unbalanced/eploits/etc for them to go "live". If they want any chance to be successful they need to keep the beta going and fix all those things first, and even then it wont be successful in the eyes of certain players like myself.
  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5352

6/06/13 1:33:27 PM#26
Originally posted by kizan0601
This game is no where near ready to be released, still ton of bugs/unbalanced/eploits/etc for them to go "live". If they want any chance to be successful they need to keep the beta going and fix all those things first, and even then it wont be successful in the eyes of certain players like myself.

 The game is already live! This is just the typical F2P Open Beta excuse bulls hit to cover up the huge problems and exploits from last weeks and wipe them under the rug.

They have been taking people's Money through the cash shop and via founder packs.

So there won't be a wipe and clean start to reset the utterly destroyed economy, with tons of People having litterly billions of AD on their accounts and got away with it unpunished.

I have written off my Guardian Pack as a 50 bucks loss and moved on.

No way in hell I am ever gonna touch this game again nor any other game from PWE/Cryptic.

  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 6813

6/06/13 1:40:45 PM#27

Ridiculous, the game went live when they turned the cash shop on!

You might want to point that out instead of reiterating their marketing nonsense.

  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 6813

6/06/13 1:43:40 PM#28
Originally posted by Tsuru
Originally posted by Arskaaa
So much potential but pay to win:/

Its not pay to win. People who pay money do not get anything that gives an advantage over players who don't. I wish people would stop saying its pay to win.

Wrong!  Just look up Runes and how they work and see that without the cash shop you have a 1% chance using them.  

The game is a major pay-to-win game, very typical of PW games.  I knew PW would ruin anything cryptic made.

  Kyleran

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6/06/13 1:50:32 PM#29
Originally posted by Nekky_Fate
Economy is so jacked up from the endless number of exploits. Could have been a good game but fell apart fast. I had almost 50 guild members and none of them play any more.

Well, in all fairness, that pretty much happens with all MMORPG's today, playing long term is pretty much a thing of the past for most folks.

People leave for all sorts of reasons, and I'll bet far more left just because it wasn't fun any more rather than due to specific exploits.

 

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  Orrionka

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Joined: 9/30/07
Posts: 19

6/06/13 2:02:20 PM#30

New servers & class balances MIGHT save this game.

I'm betting neither will happen.

  Tsumoro

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Joined: 6/30/12
Posts: 344

6/06/13 2:48:25 PM#31
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by Tsuru
Originally posted by Arskaaa
So much potential but pay to win:/

Its not pay to win. People who pay money do not get anything that gives an advantage over players who don't. I wish people would stop saying its pay to win.

Wrong!  Just look up Runes and how they work and see that without the cash shop you have a 1% chance using them.  

The game is a major pay-to-win game, very typical of PW games.  I knew PW would ruin anything cryptic made.

I think you might be wrong on this one. I don't see these runes being pay-to-win. I associate pay to win with having a distinct advantage over another person. Considering in PVE be it dungeons or raiding it would equate to perhaps dealing more damage or taking more damage I don't see how you 'Win' over your fellow PvE fellows? 

PvP is a bit different considering its a skill based system, but in honest once 60 you nuke everything very very quickly and it becomes more a 'team based' exercise rather than a solo PvP experience. There is a reason the PvP is designed as team based combat rather than a Free for all where the guy with the highest damage gets the most kills. 

In addition, a key costs around 40k AD. A very easy sum to obtain. I've personally earned  around 2 million AD since my time on there. I should also state that I bought Zen as well mainly for the character slot and for 2 bags. I used the AD I gained from buying and selling and playing the Zen market game. I have bought around 15 keys and traded for 10 others and I have got myself an epic mount, around 7 of those stones that prevent rune failure, 2x companions and a host of other goodies. 

So, I haven't been required to spend a penny on that stuff. Why are you going about it the hard way? You really don't have to.

  mordicai052

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Joined: 11/14/11
Posts: 15

6/06/13 3:10:17 PM#32
Any word on the release possibly bring with it the last class/race ?
  JudgeUK

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Joined: 10/15/11
Posts: 735

6/06/13 4:49:23 PM#33

To find myself competing with players who have foundry insta-levelled, exploited the AH/AD, or farmed the bugged end dungeons is not something I'd go for.

I know that some of these exploits may not directly affect the pvp aspect of Gauntlgrym - ok hold that, I'd forgotten about the perma-afk in pvp that players used to get all the Glory they wanted.

Another post here suggested opening up a new server, I'd got for that, or a full roll back of the current servers.

Failing that - I'll leave it now. Lesson learnt re PWE.

  furbans

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Joined: 2/10/13
Posts: 961

6/06/13 5:05:19 PM#34
Originally posted by Tsumoro
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by Tsuru
Originally posted by Arskaaa
So much potential but pay to win:/

Its not pay to win. People who pay money do not get anything that gives an advantage over players who don't. I wish people would stop saying its pay to win.

Wrong!  Just look up Runes and how they work and see that without the cash shop you have a 1% chance using them.  

The game is a major pay-to-win game, very typical of PW games.  I knew PW would ruin anything cryptic made.

I think you might be wrong on this one. I don't see these runes being pay-to-win. I associate pay to win with having a distinct advantage over another person. Considering in PVE be it dungeons or raiding it would equate to perhaps dealing more damage or taking more damage I don't see how you 'Win' over your fellow PvE fellows? 

PvP is a bit different considering its a skill based system, but in honest once 60 you nuke everything very very quickly and it becomes more a 'team based' exercise rather than a solo PvP experience. There is a reason the PvP is designed as team based combat rather than a Free for all where the guy with the highest damage gets the most kills. 

In addition, a key costs around 40k AD. A very easy sum to obtain. I've personally earned  around 2 million AD since my time on there. I should also state that I bought Zen as well mainly for the character slot and for 2 bags. I used the AD I gained from buying and selling and playing the Zen market game. I have bought around 15 keys and traded for 10 others and I have got myself an epic mount, around 7 of those stones that prevent rune failure, 2x companions and a host of other goodies. 

So, I haven't been required to spend a penny on that stuff. Why are you going about it the hard way? You really don't have to.

ANY advantage constitutes as P2W, defend it all you want but any sort of advantage one receives over others will constitute as P2W.  Should the close calls be the winner who pays for "non-essential" upgrades?  I think not.  Not mention Hellloooo Health Stones and Rez Scrolls.  The cash shop is atrocious and the entire system reeks of company greed.

  Distopia

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6/06/13 6:12:07 PM#35
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Saying this game is not live is the biggest con i have seen to date, They are trying to use the "it's beta" excuse to hide the games short comings.

What sense does it make then to release the game so soon? They won't be able to do that afterward? Nice conspiracy theory and all, but if they were doing that why do it for only a couple months?

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  Tsumoro

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Joined: 6/30/12
Posts: 344

6/06/13 8:00:33 PM#36
Originally posted by furbans
Originally posted by Tsumoro
Originally posted by Ozmodan
Originally posted by Tsuru
Originally posted by Arskaaa
So much potential but pay to win:/

Its not pay to win. People who pay money do not get anything that gives an advantage over players who don't. I wish people would stop saying its pay to win.

Wrong!  Just look up Runes and how they work and see that without the cash shop you have a 1% chance using them.  

The game is a major pay-to-win game, very typical of PW games.  I knew PW would ruin anything cryptic made.

I think you might be wrong on this one. I don't see these runes being pay-to-win. I associate pay to win with having a distinct advantage over another person. Considering in PVE be it dungeons or raiding it would equate to perhaps dealing more damage or taking more damage I don't see how you 'Win' over your fellow PvE fellows? 

PvP is a bit different considering its a skill based system, but in honest once 60 you nuke everything very very quickly and it becomes more a 'team based' exercise rather than a solo PvP experience. There is a reason the PvP is designed as team based combat rather than a Free for all where the guy with the highest damage gets the most kills. 

In addition, a key costs around 40k AD. A very easy sum to obtain. I've personally earned  around 2 million AD since my time on there. I should also state that I bought Zen as well mainly for the character slot and for 2 bags. I used the AD I gained from buying and selling and playing the Zen market game. I have bought around 15 keys and traded for 10 others and I have got myself an epic mount, around 7 of those stones that prevent rune failure, 2x companions and a host of other goodies. 

So, I haven't been required to spend a penny on that stuff. Why are you going about it the hard way? You really don't have to.

ANY advantage constitutes as P2W, defend it all you want but any sort of advantage one receives over others will constitute as P2W.  Should the close calls be the winner who pays for "non-essential" upgrades?  I think not.  Not mention Hellloooo Health Stones and Rez Scrolls.  The cash shop is atrocious and the entire system reeks of company greed.

I am not sure why you feel that 'defending' a game I enjoy playing is a bad thing? I don't  think poorly on your opinion. I do however feel that perhaps your animosity is a bit ill placed though. I am fully familiar with the item shop and to my understanding the scrolls and rez scrolls are not used in PVP? I will be honest with you, I don't really play PVP so I am not sure, but I have heard people say it is not affected by these items. Please, correct me if I am wrong.

Anyhow the point I am trying to make is that from a PVE perspective the items in the shop do not affect you. If anything should you have someone in your party have any of the items they only add to your personal benefit and chances of success. 

The thing about the runes I was making is that it is perfectly viable to buy the items you need with AD or even Gold if people are looking to trade to where the bought 'for cash' version is not something you have to undertake. I personally have had no issues obtaining what I have needed for level 60 with out paying a single red cent. Why can't you? 

I think a little bit of this is that you dislike the payment model in place, and as such openly show your disdain to a game where I feel your are obscured by how 'you' want to play it. The sad thing is, I would also like to play the game with everything available in game, I don't mind paying for a subscription for the continued development for an MMO I enjoy. 

Sadly, this is what happened with Star Trek Online and they got themselves into trouble until they went free to play so I fully understand that in order to pay 'the bills' that they have to have items that are incensed into buying. You simply are not going to get an artist just to make cosmetics to make and sell with a fraction of the community partaking it. The game would close.

It is not GREED simply because you dislike the model, it is business. The staff at Cryptic want a job and remain employed working on a game they want to develop but they also must show that it is profitable to do so. Otherwise, the game closes and people end up without a job. 

So I respectfully disagree with that it is Pay 2 Win. To be pay to win means you have to have an advantage. In PVE you have none, in PVP you have alternative means of obtaining items. The fact someone 'buys' these items makes no difference. It is like saying the game is unfair because my progress in the game is less than yours because I can only invest 2 hours a day where you can invest 8 hours a day. 

Now a lot of people do talk about the health scrolls, mainly because the max health healed is 8.5k which is a drop in the sand with a large health pool. But it is very easy to simply not die regardless of level with just kiting and evading. As a TR with potions on hand I have NEVER died only when I have run out have I died and sometimes in dungeons, which I expect. Considering how EASY it is to farm gold you can easily keep yourself alive without any issue. 

The only time I see Greater Health Scrolls being useful is if you are looking to solo a dungeon or go at it without a Cleric. 

But again I should say I do understand your feelings and I am sorry to hear that the game was not for you. I enjoy it, as do many others. There are plenty of MMO's coming out soon which might help rekindle your enjoyment for them and their payment models. 

 

Respectfully, 

Tsu

  daltanious

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6/06/13 8:05:14 PM#37
Just hope it is 3rd person and that is possible to move avatar by presing both mouse buttons. This is all I need to buy new game. :-)
  kDeviL

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6/06/13 8:08:27 PM#38
Woah that's a pretty awesome idea for endgame  PvPvE -> PvP -> PvE all in one.  Might not appeal to everyone but it sounds pretty badass to me xD

If WoW was released today even in its' entirety it would be f2p in 3 months.
Why is it still such a big deal?

  User Deleted
6/06/13 8:14:26 PM#39
Originally posted by kDeviL
Woah that's a pretty awesome idea for endgame  PvPvE -> PvP -> PvE all in one.  Might not appeal to everyone but it sounds pretty badass to me xD

I agree, I am excited for this, although I can see all the incoming whinging by PvE purists now.

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6/06/13 8:16:15 PM#40
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by Nekky_Fate
Economy is so jacked up from the endless number of exploits. Could have been a good game but fell apart fast. I had almost 50 guild members and none of them play any more.

Well, in all fairness, that pretty much happens with all MMORPG's today, playing long term is pretty much a thing of the past for most folks.

People leave for all sorts of reasons, and I'll bet far more left just because it wasn't fun any more rather than due to specific exploits.

 

Yeah happened to me in SWTOR and GW2 with my first guilds on those respective games, but I am not going to claim that they were dead within a month either.  

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