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  Ngeldu5t

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6/06/13 1:53:07 AM#21
I don't know why everybody seem surprised,the writings have been on the wall for quite some times.I was expecting a single player with multi + PvP.

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  Dogblaster

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6/06/13 1:59:19 AM#22
As I said ... another Swtor, single player game where you see other players sometimes running around. Bah
  Kumapon

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6/06/13 2:03:18 AM#23

Yes it does sound like it's going to be another SWTOR like experience.

Just not massive but multiplayer, and I'm willing to bet that TESO is using the Hero Engine.

Despite of what they said that they are not.

  User Deleted
6/06/13 2:15:04 AM#24
If your definition of 'not really an MMO' is because it is soloable, then I guess MMOs don't really exist.
  Sovrath

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6/06/13 2:26:42 AM#25
Originally posted by evilastro
If your definition of 'not really an MMO' is because it is soloable, then I guess MMOs don't really exist.

That's what I'm thinking.

People are getting caught up on words and terms. Nothing has changed from their first announcement other than letting players go to the other faction areas with their own faction members.

Nothing.

So for good or ill, the game is the very same game that they have been talking about. It has quests, it has instanced dungeons and some non-instanced dungeons, it has a sort of phasing and it has rvrvr pvp.

 

  Iselin

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6/06/13 4:35:16 AM#26

The topics in this forum just hit a new IQ low. I didn't think that was possible.

Of course it's a bloody MMO... Its just one being designed to feel more familiar to Skyrim players than to WOW tourists... This is a good thing.

  User Deleted
6/06/13 4:44:54 AM#27
Originally posted by Iselin

The topics in this forum just hit a new IQ low. I didn't think that was possible.

Of course it's a bloody MMO... Its just one being designed to feel more familiar to Skyrim players than to WOW tourists... This is a good thing.

I know right, I feel like some of my brain dies every time I visit here lately.

Its PR spin because people think its going to be a WoW / SWTOR clone, to appease the ES fans.

  asrlohz

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6/06/13 4:54:30 AM#28
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Ugh, I'm definitely not for almost completely solo able gameplay. That just screams me sitting at my computer playing the game by myself. Why do developers make these games so easy? Why must all of the hardest content be locked away at the end of the game? That article definitely makes me turn away from ESO as a potential purchase for me as it screams easy for veteran MMO players. Thanks for the unwelcoming post :(

Well, this comes from a person whom thinks that "easy" and "hard" only differ from one another depending on the enemy's healthbar and damage. I'm going to guess that it is due to WoW's system. So I'll compare TESO and WoW for you.

 

WoW is a hotbar focused combat MMO, where you almost constantly have five skills on cooldown at any given combat scenario. Since the only difficult obstacle is to follow a hotbar skill pattern that is more effective than your opponent, the only real difficulty comes from the amount of HP and Damage the mob has.

 

TESO on the other hand has action oriented combat, and most people whom have played it have agreed that it is quite tricky to kill mobs straight away. Often if you get two or three mobs on you, you can't juggle them at the same time. Hence instead of learning a hotbar pattern you react realtime to their actions by blocking and/or using power attacks including some of your skills you might have acquired. The AI defines the difficulty in TESO, not  the healthbar/damage of the mob.

Most MMO's are soloable. About 90% of all the content can be done solo in any given MMO.

  GroovyFlower

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6/06/13 5:06:08 AM#29

Smart tricky move by zenimax try getting the zealot fanboi's like me in there game.

Well zenimax this ain't gonne do it for me your way to much themepark limited freedom mmo still for me.

Sandbox, total freedom and im in OK:)

  Kyleran

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6/06/13 5:41:54 AM#30
I dunno, since I pretty much don't like the way modem "MMOS" are designed, perhaps a game that isn't much like them will be an improvement.

Truthfully I don't want to group with the average rush, rush, min-maxing gamer that seems to dominate the player base today.

So a mostly solid solo experience with options to group with friends is probably OK.

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  Sawlstone

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6/06/13 5:56:03 AM#31
Originally posted by Kyleran
I dunno, since I pretty much don't like the way modem "MMOS" are designed, perhaps a game that isn't much like them will be an improvement.

Truthfully I don't want to group with the average rush, rush, min-maxing gamer that seems to dominate the player base today.

So a mostly solid solo experience with options to group with friends is probably OK.

I couldn't agree with you more :)

When I first read that Zenimax quote, my heart sank a little. Not sure why though....but then I realized that I had already created an expectation. And well seeds of expectation lead to resentment!! Thats not the best way to be, so I'm just gonna enjoy what comes from TESO, and hope it keeps me interested. Leaving wow after 8 years subbing so I might just need to avoid rush rush loot loot.

  Thodra

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6/06/13 8:35:44 AM#32
Originally posted by jdnyc
read it and weep :(

If you watch this video,  they start out saying it's an MMORPG......

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/mzrc2w/the-elder-scrolls-online-bringing-the-scrolls-to-mmo

  ShakyMo

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6/06/13 9:04:32 AM#33
I would have thought all the self appointed "true tes fans" around here would be pleased with this news.
  Nanfoodle

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6/06/13 12:21:53 PM#34

All I have to say is context. Take a few words out of any conversation and you can make anyone say just about anything. Step back and think about this. 

1. Many instanced and open world dungeons for 5 man teams

2. Public Quests that are for large number of players.

3. Phased events for end game that will require large number of players working together to get done.

4. AvA designed for large scale battles to get large objectives done. 

Most MMOs have lots of solo content. Leveling to top level is 60-80% of the content. This is not a normal MMO where raiding will be a staple but this is still filled with tones of play with your friends content.

  deakon

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6/06/13 3:19:37 PM#35

Yeah instanced pve (4 man) group dungeons, 24 player group pve content, persistent pve world with thousands of other players and 2k player pvp battleground.

 

How is that not an MMO? Or is it just PR speak because they fear the word MMO will put off a lot of the tes fans that have never played one before? I vote the latter tbh

  keithian

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6/06/13 3:37:12 PM#36
Originally posted by Kumapon

Yes it does sound like it's going to be another SWTOR like experience.

Just not massive but multiplayer, and I'm willing to bet that TESO is using the Hero Engine.

Despite of what they said that they are not.

Stop trolling or provide a source or a reason why they would lie. 

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  keithian

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6/06/13 3:38:00 PM#37
Originally posted by Iselin

The topics in this forum just hit a new IQ low. I didn't think that was possible.

Of course it's a bloody MMO... Its just one being designed to feel more familiar to Skyrim players than to WOW tourists... This is a good thing.

You have more patience than me lol.

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  nerovipus32

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6/06/13 3:43:04 PM#38
I actually start to feel depressed reading comments on this website, you so called "gamers" are a horrible bunch.
  korent1991

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6/06/13 3:50:10 PM#39

I really don't get this dev philosophy.... We're going to make mmorpg but we'll take out few most important parts of the mmorpgs and we'll adjust the game so it fits solo-RPG gamers a little bit more.

The question which pops up is, "why the hell would you want to make mmorpg if you'll focus on solo play and call it "multiplayer-rpg"!?"

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  Chuckanar

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6/06/13 3:52:59 PM#40
Originally posted by Kyleran
I dunno, since I pretty much don't like the way modem "MMOS" are designed, perhaps a game that isn't much like them will be an improvement.

Truthfully I don't want to group with the average rush, rush, min-maxing gamer that seems to dominate the player base today.

So a mostly solid solo experience with options to group with friends is probably OK.

Agree with Kyleran on this. I am tired of grouping and especially being forced to group with ADHD pubescents that have have no patience or communication skills.

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