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  Mtibbs1989

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6/05/13 2:09:45 PM#21
Originally posted by Distopia
One of those whales we keep hearing about?

 You can say that they're one of those whales that have allowed games (especially in the MMO Market) to blossom into the new type of product that developers are creating. Thank you OP you were one of the reasons for why this market has become so bad and thank you again for finally voting with your wallet.


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  Distopia

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6/05/13 2:11:38 PM#22
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Distopia
One of those whales we keep hearing about?

 You can say that they're one of those whales that have allowed games (especially in the MMO Market) to blossom into the new type of product that developers are creating. Thank you OP you were one of the reasons for why this market has becomes so bad and thank you again for voting with your wallet.

Good point..

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  Abimor

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6/05/13 2:15:06 PM#23
Wow that is a lot of money! I do feel what you are saying, but there are still some good gaming companies out there I have not been disappointed with the elderscroll games and fallout 3 was really good fallout vegas was buggy at firsrt but was still good. I think civilization 5 is a very good game for the cost my wife and I have both played over 50 hours each. So we payed 49.99 for the game and its expansions for over 100 hours of entertainment. 
  Mtibbs1989

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6/05/13 2:18:01 PM#24
Originally posted by Abimor
Wow that is a lot of money! I do feel what you are saying, but there are still some good gaming companies out there I have not been disappointed with the elderscroll games and fallout 3 was really good fallout vegas was buggy at firsrt but was still good. I think civilization 5 is a very good game for the cost my wife and I have both played over 50 hours each. So we payed 49.99 for the game and its expansions for over 100 hours of entertainment. 

 Yeah, one of the very few large companies that are left who are actually putting your monies worth into the game is Bethesda Studios. I tip my hat to them with the quality of work they produce and I hope that they continue the good work.


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  M1sf1t

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6/05/13 2:28:58 PM#25


Originally posted by PieRad
I agree.. It's disgusting.

 

It's good that some of the people who supported f2p starts seeing it for what it is, they're not making great games anymore, it's all about doing as little work as possible and cash in fast.

Sell it for 6x normal box price (founders), milk all they can in a short amount of time, and then let the game dwindle and hopefully be forgotten, so they can do it again with a new title, the next title then have everyone hyped so bad that they'll pay another 300 bucks for founders and beta access...

 

It's like a buffet for the suits, they can basically just take peoples money, it's crazy to watch, it's like gamers have become brainwashed zombies.

 

 



No MMO developer or publisher "Takes peoples money" period. Only the idiots who voluntarily give their money to these businesses which have f2p or b2p business models attached with a cash shop are the ones who believe this tripe. In the end the burden of responsibility rests on the shoulders of the consumer/MMO player who willing embraces and plays these games given the OPEN nature of these business models where everyone know that prices for virtual goods and services can and will change at the discretion of the publisher or developer.

Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.

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  Mardukk

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6/05/13 2:32:54 PM#26
Originally posted by Distopia
One of those whales we keep hearing about?

I've never run into one of the whales until now.  I guess they do exist.

 

At least OP is admitting he has a serious problem.  I wish you the best in getting it under control.

 

I have no idea how you could part with that type of money on these latest craptastic games, even if you are very wealthy.  Maybe you were an optimist and hoped that they would turn out well.

  StonesDK

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6/05/13 10:13:56 PM#27

I'm not really shocked the OP has spent 20k on collectors, founders and cash shops. If you can afford it then go for it.

 

I'm surprised it took you 20k a year to come to the conclusion the rest of us has realized spending much much less.

 

Better late than never I suppose

  Capitat

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Joined: 6/06/13
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6/06/13 2:55:35 AM#28

It is getting out of hand, its because its all so mainstream to play video games now. I haven't bought a game in years other than some of the Indie games I really like because it just isn't worth it. Plenty of great free to play games.

  psiic

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Joined: 6/03/09
Posts: 584

 
OP  6/06/13 8:37:49 AM#29

You guys are missing a huge part of my complaint.

 

Sure I spend too much on video games that is a given.

 

However I can afford it and would gladly pay this much or even more on quality games with reputable customer support, and game developers that actually cared about the " virtual world " they were creating.

 

My biggest issue and what I personally see as what is destroying the games is the FREE GAMERS, those players that are not invested in the game or community so they do not give a damn how they act.

 

So what if they get their account banned they do not care because they have nothing to lose, no box sale, no subscription lost. 

 

If these people get banned they laugh and wear it like a medal while they make a new account and try and act even worse.

 

My issue is that I am sick of paying so that the  worthless, ungrateful. leeches and locusts out there can have a FREE game to destroy before they move on to the next one and do it again.

I am sick of the outright credit card fraud these game hosts are committing by selling us a business model of box sales and subscription fee game, only to turn around 6 months or a year later and convert it to a F2P, totally screwing over the customers that paid for a different product. 

I am so sick of the masses of the totally worthless entitled people out there that think having free video games to play is their right.

  Kaelaan21

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Joined: 5/31/07
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6/06/13 11:38:37 AM#30
Originally posted by psiic

You guys are missing a huge part of my complaint.

 

Sure I spend too much on video games that is a given.

 

However I can afford it and would gladly pay this much or even more on quality games with reputable customer support, and game developers that actually cared about the " virtual world " they were creating.

 

My biggest issue and what I personally see as what is destroying the games is the FREE GAMERS, those players that are not invested in the game or community so they do not give a damn how they act.

 

So what if they get their account banned they do not care because they have nothing to lose, no box sale, no subscription lost. 

 

If these people get banned they laugh and wear it like a medal while they make a new account and try and act even worse.

 

My issue is that I am sick of paying so that the  worthless, ungrateful. leeches and locusts out there can have a FREE game to destroy before they move on to the next one and do it again.

I am sick of the outright credit card fraud these game hosts are committing by selling us a business model of box sales and subscription fee game, only to turn around 6 months or a year later and convert it to a F2P, totally screwing over the customers that paid for a different product. 

I am so sick of the masses of the totally worthless entitled people out there that think having free video games to play is their right.

If that's the case, then you need to realize that you cannot control what others do around you. Part of being social is understanding that you will not like or agree with everything that people do around you.

 

So, If you aren't able to tolerate the people and games you socialize in - then I agree. You shouldn't be a part of them anymore. Whether you realize it or not, even though the majority of this site would agree with what you are saying - the majority of the player base does not.

  sacredfool

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Posts: 705

6/06/13 11:41:39 AM#31
Originally posted by psiic

I spend an insane amount of video games every year, not going to be specific but over 20k. 


Originally posted by nethaniah

Seriously Farmville? Yeah I think it's great. In a World where half our population is dying of hunger the more fortunate half is spending their time harvesting food that doesn't exist.


  BizkitNL

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"Free to play, pay to win""

6/06/13 11:53:56 AM#32
Originally posted by PieRad
Originally posted by zimboy69

um  I just don't know what to say to this  other than they must see you coming .

 

20k a  year on games seriously   you need to get a life 

 

i don't think i could even find 1k worth of games to buy  every month and then have the time to play them all

 

this  has to be a joke

 

It's alright to be jealous mate.. And assuming he really does have 20k to spend on games alone, per year.... This man probably have a life, and a rich one too.

And he didn't buy games for all that cash, he spend it in f2p games / founder packs / Item shops.

Way to defend something you know nothing about.

Think it through for a bit: 1700 bucks each and every month. Now assume he actually plays with what he buys. What rich life?

Offcourse, we're assuming as well. He might be the guy that buys everything he sees and throws it into the corner because THE NEXT THING IS FOR SALE WOOHOOO!

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  RelGn

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6/06/13 11:58:31 AM#33

I agree the greed has become dicusting.

Currently im playing marvel heroes only.Ill see how this goes.

If it proves another greedy game im done as well

  psiic

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Joined: 6/03/09
Posts: 584

 
OP  6/06/13 3:33:25 PM#34
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by PieRad
Originally posted by zimboy69

um  I just don't know what to say to this  other than they must see you coming .

 

20k a  year on games seriously   you need to get a life 

 

i don't think i could even find 1k worth of games to buy  every month and then have the time to play them all

 

this  has to be a joke

 

It's alright to be jealous mate.. And assuming he really does have 20k to spend on games alone, per year.... This man probably have a life, and a rich one too.

And he didn't buy games for all that cash, he spend it in f2p games / founder packs / Item shops.

Way to defend something you know nothing about.

Think it through for a bit: 1700 bucks each and every month. Now assume he actually plays with what he buys. What rich life?

Offcourse, we're assuming as well. He might be the guy that buys everything he sees and throws it into the corner because THE NEXT THING IS FOR SALE WOOHOOO!

Guilty as charged. I usually buy at least 3 CE's of a game I like so that friends or family can play with me when they want. 

What really nailed me this past year and drove my spending so high is kickstarter. 

I got sucked into kickstarter way too hard and admit it is just a huge temptation for me everytime I browse the game section.

  BizkitNL

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"Free to play, pay to win""

6/07/13 6:28:24 AM#35
Originally posted by psiic
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by PieRad
Originally posted by zimboy69

um  I just don't know what to say to this  other than they must see you coming .

 

20k a  year on games seriously   you need to get a life 

 

i don't think i could even find 1k worth of games to buy  every month and then have the time to play them all

 

this  has to be a joke

 

It's alright to be jealous mate.. And assuming he really does have 20k to spend on games alone, per year.... This man probably have a life, and a rich one too.

And he didn't buy games for all that cash, he spend it in f2p games / founder packs / Item shops.

Way to defend something you know nothing about.

Think it through for a bit: 1700 bucks each and every month. Now assume he actually plays with what he buys. What rich life?

Offcourse, we're assuming as well. He might be the guy that buys everything he sees and throws it into the corner because THE NEXT THING IS FOR SALE WOOHOOO!

Guilty as charged. I usually buy at least 3 CE's of a game I like so that friends or family can play with me when they want. 

What really nailed me this past year and drove my spending so high is kickstarter. 

I got sucked into kickstarter way too hard and admit it is just a huge temptation for me everytime I browse the game section.

God, that is so true. I have to fight my urge to "donate" everytime I peek on the site :).

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  psiic

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OP  6/07/13 9:04:46 AM#36
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by psiic
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by PieRad
Originally posted by zimboy69

um  I just don't know what to say to this  other than they must see you coming .

 

20k a  year on games seriously   you need to get a life 

 

i don't think i could even find 1k worth of games to buy  every month and then have the time to play them all

 

this  has to be a joke

 

It's alright to be jealous mate.. And assuming he really does have 20k to spend on games alone, per year.... This man probably have a life, and a rich one too.

And he didn't buy games for all that cash, he spend it in f2p games / founder packs / Item shops.

Way to defend something you know nothing about.

Think it through for a bit: 1700 bucks each and every month. Now assume he actually plays with what he buys. What rich life?

Offcourse, we're assuming as well. He might be the guy that buys everything he sees and throws it into the corner because THE NEXT THING IS FOR SALE WOOHOOO!

Guilty as charged. I usually buy at least 3 CE's of a game I like so that friends or family can play with me when they want. 

What really nailed me this past year and drove my spending so high is kickstarter. 

I got sucked into kickstarter way too hard and admit it is just a huge temptation for me everytime I browse the game section.

God, that is so true. I have to fight my urge to "donate" everytime I peek on the site :).

Really sad part to me is that of the 14 projects I have backed some who have achieved funding over a year ago, not one of them is even in beta yet.

I mean hell if they wanna give us a bonus stretch goal, how bout make it getting the game into beta in a timely manner?

  Tyvolus4

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6/07/13 10:42:33 AM#37
Originally posted by Caldrin

Really 20k a year on games? that is utterly insane.. are you strapped to your computer or something..

Don't get me wrong i hate the shitty DLC and f2p culture in in MMOs but how on earth can you spend 20k a year on games.

 

I mean even if i was super rich i still would not spend 20k a year on gaming lol

 even if I didn't have a job I wouldn't find the time to play 20k worth of games a year.  this cant be real.

  Icewhite

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6/07/13 10:43:46 AM#38
nvm

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  itchmon

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6/07/13 11:41:47 PM#39

i think the right move is to wisely research where you are going to spend your money, rather than just laying down a blanket of yes and no rules.  Work smarter, not harder, the old saying, applies to the "work" your wallet does as well.

 

as for me i dont spend quite that much, but it's an important hobby for me and i completely hear ya when it comes to not wanting to spend your funds on garbage.

 

and might i suggest something along the lines of wargaming (warhammer or warmachine) as something you can do that will keep alive the gaming aspect while simultaneously get your eyes off the screen for a coupla hours a day :)

RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.

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  Magiknight

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6/07/13 11:56:09 PM#40
This is the future of games. People spending 10K+ on a single game will not be unheard of. They will try to suck as much from you as they can in the shortest amount of time possible. As soon as the industry gets around legal barriers you can expect to see all kinds of gimmicks implemented into games that appear fun but are really only there to drain your funds. They will be much more cleverly disguised than free to play gimmicks. Expect to see headlines about people killing themselves over how much they've spent in a virtual game.
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