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  Wakygreek

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6/05/13 12:47:43 PM#41
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Waky
Eqn will use a simmilar f2p model as ps2. E.g. you can optionally sub to get xp and other resources faster with a small amount of station cash thrown in per month.

Your basing this off of what? The game has not even been released yet and you already know their pricing model? For all we know it could be P2P but i rather doubt it.

  Avarix

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6/05/13 12:47:44 PM#42
This news actually has me LESS interested in EQNext, not more. Outside of the hardware limitations that consoles inevitably bring at the end of their life cycle, you also have to design for it differently which I have had nothing but bad experiences with. Also, MMO communities are already bad enough without adding in the console audience. My nephews play CoD on the PlayStation and those gamers could make blood come from my ears, I have no interest in rubbing elbows (So to speak) with them. Outside of helping the game financially, I see nothing positive about this.
  Theocritus

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6/05/13 12:47:58 PM#43
Originally posted by kDeviL
Sounds great!  Why do people have so much hate for the ps4?  o.O  Is there really a reason or is there some kind of pride in being loyal to pc?  I don't get it but w/e bring em on!

 I dont know if its a hate for the consoles themselves or that most players dont want MMOs on a console period.....It severely limits the games and they are often dumbed down greatly as a result.

  Sciva

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6/05/13 12:48:14 PM#44
Originally posted by nethervoid
Originally posted by Sciva
Originally posted by nethervoid
If EQNext is going to be on PS4, I'm now 99% sure it will be a game I won't want to play. They're going to have to cater to the desires of FPS players. Great. More instant gratification.

Uh, i'm pretty sure they would shoot themselves in the foot if they marketed an online RPG for FPS players (who would be playing an FPS on the PC or 360 instead). Just because somthing can use a controller doesn't create lesser gameplay.

If history has anything to say, usually console games have lesser gameplay than PC games.

Graphics can usually suffer, but if the core gameplay is still there then it's no issue.

  ShakyMo

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6/05/13 12:51:32 PM#45
Waky I'm basing it off an article I read with smed, where he said eqn and all future Sony mmos will be f2p and that eqn will use simmilar payment model to ps2 (which is good news, ps2 probably has the best f2p model going)

Can't be arsed to link, use googlefu.
  severius

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6/05/13 12:53:29 PM#46
Originally posted by Drakynn

Sony seems to be becoming more flexible when it comes to their market place in terms of pricing and content released digitallywith PS4,so a lot of the barriers to MMOs on Sony paltforms shouldn't exist on PS4.Thus I would not be surprised to see third party developers as well as SOE bringing out MMOS for PS4.

If MS doesn't follow suit and keeps it's draconian practices in place it may well give the advantage to Sony.

Wow, didn't know the PS4 had already been released, and had been released for so long that pricing trends and corporate strategies were laid bare....


  ShakyMo

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6/05/13 12:54:28 PM#47
Avarix
Ps2 is very much a pc game, it doesn't play like a console shooter at all. E.g. limited verticallity, loads of corridors and cutscenes, easy aiming, every looser wins mentality. Feel / control wise it has more in common with something like unreal tournament than cod.
  NoLimit5401

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6/05/13 12:55:29 PM#48
While I will not attempt to play an mmorpg on a console as long as a PC version is available, I think that the fact that Playstation 4 will have two f2p AAA mmorpg titles will help them move extra units. If they are available at launch, even better for them. Sony/SOE is doing alot of things right atm.
  Wakygreek

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Reason is a necessity

6/05/13 12:57:14 PM#49
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Waky I'm basing it off an article I read with smed, where he said eqn and all future Sony mmos will be f2p and that eqn will use simmilar payment model to ps2 (which is good news, ps2 probably has the best f2p model going)

Can't be arsed to link, use googlefu.
Sadly, I count that more along the lines of a general statement that could still change by launch.
  exwin

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6/05/13 12:58:29 PM#50

I'm not so much worried about graphics as fear them watering it down for console users. If they make the next version, a true successor to Everquest and then make it work on a console, then SUPER!!

However, cross platform usually scales towards the console user. Skills set up to be used in a couple of VERY repetitive button mashing.

  nariusseldon

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6/05/13 12:59:32 PM#51
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Waky I'm basing it off an article I read with smed, where he said eqn and all future Sony mmos will be f2p and that eqn will use simmilar payment model to ps2 (which is good news, ps2 probably has the best f2p model going)

Can't be arsed to link, use googlefu.

I have no doubt. Sony read the same industry reports that were posted here.

The market of p2p-only games are declining and probably gone soon. F2P is the way to go.

  Velocinox

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6/05/13 1:00:08 PM#52

Arguing over which console is best is a fool's bet.

No matter who wins,

YOU'RE STILL PLAYING A CONSOLE!

'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than the one you've become familiar with.


How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.

  itsTort

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6/05/13 1:00:29 PM#53
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf
Everquest Online Adventures just called and asked if everyone forgot what happened the last time they attempted a console Everquest MMO on a playstation.

2/11/2003 to 5/29/2012

9 years just called and said it was pretty successful on that front, especially granted the technology that was around at the time of launch. Are you implying that it will be wildly successful and give the company residual income for a good 9+ years again? 

  Anthur

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6/05/13 1:01:26 PM#54
I don't know any console mmo which would be at least mediocre imo. Not a good sign.Controls and gameplay will be limited to console capabilities which suck compared to pc capabilities. Look at the strange inventory/skill controls in Skyrim. On a pure PC game you can do much better. Damn.
  Nanfoodle

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6/05/13 1:02:18 PM#55
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Avarix
Ps2 is very much a pc game, it doesn't play like a console shooter at all. E.g. limited verticallity, loads of corridors and cutscenes, easy aiming, every looser wins mentality. Feel / control wise it has more in common with something like unreal tournament than cod.

PS2 could shoot for the Wii for all I care. FPS are a good fit for console systems and the UI does not require any depth like a MMO. Port something like EQN, WoW, to a console and you need to not only dumb down the UI but you need to also have the game set at a hardware rate thats fair for that console. PCs are way more powerful then a console and that sets up EQN future updates at a lower standard as hardware gets better, EQN cant scale to follow that as it was marketed to the PS4 and its hardware. Some MMOs have made the jump to consoles but I personally have never seen it done in a way that will make console and PC gamers happy. To much compromises to make it work well. IMO, this would be a bad move for EQN.

  Vidir

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6/05/13 1:04:37 PM#56
Originally posted by ZaineUK

Hi All,

It's been confirmed that Planetside 2 and other Sony MMOs will be coming to the PS4 including EverQuest Next which will also be shown at E3 next week:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/05/dc-universe-online-and-planetside-2-coming-to-playstation-4

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1952233/sonys_e3_2013_lineup_leaked_with_ps4_ps3_games.html

Imo ps4 is far from beeing a winning concept for any pc game.

  silvermember

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6/05/13 1:09:20 PM#57
Originally posted by enntense
Can a PS4 display 100 people who are online elsewhere fighting a raid boss without taking a total shit?  Did they put a 2011 Intel chip at 5GHz, and a Titan video card in that thing?

If MAG could 256 players on the same map why wouldn't a console that has more power be able to do the same.

Anyways, the problem with comments like yours is that you are not thinking. The number one advantage of the console vs PC is  console cames can be highly optimized unlike the pc version that has to run for a wider range of hardware and specs. 2. Not all the computer that play ps2 on the pc have the spec you listed. 3. the ps4 version of ps2 doesn't have to look as great as the PC version. 5. The ps4 version doesn't need as much players as the pc version.

The ps4 version is targeting console gamers. If you are a PC gamer, you have no real reason to bother playing the ps4 version unless you want to.

  steelwind

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6/05/13 1:09:36 PM#58
What doesn't make sense to me is that EQN is supposed to be a sandbox title. I just don't see the average console player interested in a sandbox MMO. I could understand if it was a themepark but I really don't think the console crowd is the right audience for a sandbox MMO.
  Lazarus71

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I play the games I like and don't dwell on the ones I don't, complicated philosophy I know....

6/05/13 1:12:47 PM#59
Originally posted by itsTort
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf
Everquest Online Adventures just called and asked if everyone forgot what happened the last time they attempted a console Everquest MMO on a playstation.

2/11/2003 to 5/29/2012

9 years just called and said it was pretty successful on that front, especially granted the technology that was around at the time of launch. Are you implying that it will be wildly successful and give the company residual income for a good 9+ years again? 

I was about to post the exact same thing, you beat me to it :P 

Also there is FFXI and DCUO

No signature, I don't have a pen

  nariusseldon

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6/05/13 1:13:43 PM#60
Originally posted by itsTort
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf
Everquest Online Adventures just called and asked if everyone forgot what happened the last time they attempted a console Everquest MMO on a playstation.

2/11/2003 to 5/29/2012

9 years just called and said it was pretty successful on that front, especially granted the technology that was around at the time of launch. Are you implying that it will be wildly successful and give the company residual income for a good 9+ years again? 

Not to mention DCUO, Dust 514, and Defiance.

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