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General Discussion  » This game is not a MMORPG, its a CORPG like DDO, GW1, Diablo 3 so far

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  MMOExposed

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OP  5/26/13 4:45:39 AM#1

Honestly this game doesnt seem like a MMORPG . It's a CORPG like the original design plans before Pw joined in.

 

but maybe this change at higher levels. But the game gives off the impression of being a CORPG. Not sure how this is more MMO than GW1 was which isn't a MMO. 

  Reklaw

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5/26/13 4:54:03 AM#2

Your tittle should be : This games doesn't feel like a MMORPG to me.

And....I fully agree with you.

Still am enjoying the game allot. And to be honost I have this feeling of today's MMORPG not really feeling like MMORPG for several years already.  Of course just my opinion.

There seem to be new MMORPG releases incomming to become more then what we have today and expand of what we use to have in the old. Let's not give hope up and simply enjoy games for what they give and not for what they try to be.

  Shaigh

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5/26/13 5:09:45 AM#3
Its a 50/50 mix of persistent gameworld and personal/coop instancing.
  Squeak69

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5/26/13 5:27:54 AM#4
. . . . DDO was a MMORPG i have as yet to play NWO buts, im pretty sure it is to.

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  Vannor

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5/26/13 5:39:58 AM#5

You obviously haven't got past the tutorial quests yet....

There are public adventure zones. Not just at higher levels... at about level 6. Pretty blatant difference from GW1.

  Saur0n

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5/26/13 5:42:20 AM#6
The ability to make your own quests and share them with the community makes it more of an mmorpg than most games that claim the title.   That makes it a real D&D game.   It has some issues to work out but it's 2 weeks in to the open beta.  It's way to early to judge.
  shadylurker

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5/26/13 10:28:21 AM#7
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Honestly this game doesnt seem like a MMORPG . It's a CORPG like the original design plans before Pw joined in.

 

but maybe this change at higher levels. But the game gives off the impression of being a CORPG. Not sure how this is more MMO than GW1 was which isn't a MMO. 

You obviously haven't played the game.  The only time you aren't with other players is in your quest dungeons and the newbie tutorial.  The rest of the time you are with other players....

 

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  wordiz

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5/26/13 10:31:47 AM#8
You could even call it a MORPG. Just take off the massive. ; )

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  Dahkoht

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5/26/13 10:33:15 AM#9
At what point outside the city can you be in a zone with hundreds of other players actually around you and playing ?

  hammarus

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5/26/13 10:34:55 AM#10
Originally posted by shadylurker
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Honestly this game doesnt seem like a MMORPG . It's a CORPG like the original design plans before Pw joined in.

 

but maybe this change at higher levels. But the game gives off the impression of being a CORPG. Not sure how this is more MMO than GW1 was which isn't a MMO. 

You obviously haven't played the game.  The only time you aren't with other players is in your quest dungeons and the newbie tutorial.  The rest of the time you are with other players....

 

WHY WOULD YOU EVEN MAKE THIS STUPID FUCKING POST.

 Harsh aren't we?  He is expressing his opinion.  I guess you are expressing yours.

  Whitebeards

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5/26/13 10:35:41 AM#11

How many players you come across in GW1, D3 and DDO while you are out adventuring?

You know the answer and you know that NW is nothing like GW1 and D3 . I have teamed up with so many random players out in the zones and got so many ninja heals and invites to fight tougher monsters...you telling me that is possible in GW1 and D3?

I suggest atleast play the game first. I don't mind valid criticism but i do mind blatant spread of mis information.

  shadylurker

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5/26/13 10:45:09 AM#12
Originally posted by hammarus
Originally posted by shadylurker
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Honestly this game doesnt seem like a MMORPG . It's a CORPG like the original design plans before Pw joined in.

 

but maybe this change at higher levels. But the game gives off the impression of being a CORPG. Not sure how this is more MMO than GW1 was which isn't a MMO. 

You obviously haven't played the game.  The only time you aren't with other players is in your quest dungeons and the newbie tutorial.  The rest of the time you are with other players....

 

WHY WOULD YOU EVEN MAKE THIS STUPID FUCKING POST.

 Harsh aren't we?  He is expressing his opinion.  I guess you are expressing yours.

Because his post isn't an opinion, it's wrong, it's NOTHING.  He's just spreading idiotic messages that have 0 revelance to game

 

 

 

  Whitebeards

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5/26/13 10:50:57 AM#13
Originally posted by hammarus
Harsh aren't we?  He is expressing his opinion.  I guess you are expressing yours.

Yes he is harsh and i don't support that but OP is spreading mis information about the game by comparing it to D3 and GW1.

People get away with a lot in name of an opinion.

  Purutzil

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5/26/13 10:52:12 AM#14
Originally posted by Dahkoht
At what point outside the city can you be in a zone with hundreds of other players actually around you and playing ?
 

If you use this mentality, we can disqualify a vast majority of the MMos listed that use a channel system (used primarily to limit lag and allow for larger servers, action games in particular use this due to the need for good performance to play). The channel system is no where near new. Try playing say Rift with a massive event going on, your going to WISH it had channels for how laggy it will be for most PCs trying to run hundreds of people fighting one boss with chaos errupting all over the place.

  Whitebeards

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5/26/13 10:55:13 AM#15
Originally posted by Dahkoht
At what point outside the city can you be in a zone with hundreds of other players actually around you and playing ?
 

And what difference those 100 of players make to your game experience? when you are not even going to interact say 10 out of 100? why 50 or 60 are not good enough?

I never understood this idea of surrounding yourself with thousands of players just for the sake of it when they make no difference to my game play.

  DavisFlight

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5/26/13 12:59:21 PM#16
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by Dahkoht
At what point outside the city can you be in a zone with hundreds of other players actually around you and playing ?
 

And what difference those 100 of players make to your game experience? when you are not even going to interact say 10 out of 100? why 50 or 60 are not good enough?

I never understood this idea of surrounding yourself with thousands of players just for the sake of it when they make no difference to my game play.

It's the difference between multiplayer and massively multiplayer.

 

And a well designed MMO will always allow those extra players to make a difference on your play experience. This was originally not designed as an MMO, and it shows. It isn't truly an MMO. The OP is spot on.

 

And having player made dungeons does not make it more of an MMO, it makes it more of a CRPG, the original Neverwinter Nights game also had that feature and they weren't considered MMOs even though you could have 50 people or more on a server.

  furbans

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5/26/13 1:13:24 PM#17
Originally posted by wordiz
You could even call it a MORPG. Just take off the massive. ; )

OMG (Online Multiplayer Game) is the more apt term and was the term Jack used when they said they were not following the MMO route anymore due to only producing mediocre MMOs and focus on creating OMGs with some great quality features to make it a good game.

But of course Neverwinter proved how utterly full of bull shit Jack was in that interview when he talked bout that.

  PulsarMan

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5/26/13 1:15:41 PM#18

Does this argument really need to happen? Who cares? 

It's a game you can play online with features that resemble other games in the MMORPG genre. 

  Doogiehowser

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5/27/13 4:03:28 AM#19
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by Dahkoht
At what point outside the city can you be in a zone with hundreds of other players actually around you and playing ?
 

And what difference those 100 of players make to your game experience? when you are not even going to interact say 10 out of 100? why 50 or 60 are not good enough?

I never understood this idea of surrounding yourself with thousands of players just for the sake of it when they make no difference to my game play.

It's the difference between multiplayer and massively multiplayer.

 

And a well designed MMO will always allow those extra players to make a difference on your play experience. This was originally not designed as an MMO, and it shows. It isn't truly an MMO. The OP is spot on.

 

And having player made dungeons does not make it more of an MMO, it makes it more of a CRPG, the original Neverwinter Nights game also had that feature and they weren't considered MMOs even though you could have 50 people or more on a server.

No OP is not spot on. Anyone who compares NW to GW1 and D3 is not even anywhere close to being 'spot on'.

A well designed MMO you mean something like Everquest? is that a good example for you because even when i was playing that MMO i could care less if i was surrounded by hundreds of players. Never cared much about it when all i ever needed was 5 or 6 players.

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5/27/13 4:16:17 AM#20
Originally posted by MMOExposed

Honestly this game doesnt seem like a MMORPG . It's a CORPG like the original design plans before Pw joined in.

 

but maybe this change at higher levels. But the game gives off the impression of being a CORPG. Not sure how this is more MMO than GW1 was which isn't a MMO. 

Its as much a MMO as any other themepark lobby game, including WoW, LOTRO, EQ2 etc etc.

The game focuses heavily on instanced dungeons and PvP. Yep. This doesnt make it CORPG. It has open world areas like the rest of those games listed. If you are going to go down this route of MMO nomenclature, the only qualifiers would be Vanguard, UO, Darkfall and a handful of other MMOs with no instancing or convenience features (dungeon finders, battlegrounds).

So yes, if you want to call themepark lobby games CORPGs, then thats what 95% of the market is, along with Neverwinter. But realistically, its just a MMO, like the rest of them.

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