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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] General: The Worst MMOs of 2013... So Far

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5/24/13 1:52:42 PM#101
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by Kyleran

That's exactly the thought that ran through my mind when reading this. I thought that maybe the people writing isn't the same people deciding what ads should be running on the site though.

Actually this has been confirmed by staff, the team managing the business side has nothing to do with the editorial content, so that does explain the disconnect.


This, a thousand times this. The owners handle all the ads, and leave me and our editorial staff to do anything at all we wish with the content.  There are many emails when Craig/Ben and I have had to set the record straight with PR, marketing, etc.  Editorial is separate from ads, and we can't be expected to avoid negative opinions just because you bought ads on the site. 

Though some would love to believe that our writers are "bought and paid for", nothing is further from the truth.  


I hate to compare, but I really wish you guys would adopt a format more like Massively. There are virtually zero advertisements on Massively, and certainly not the annoying full page ads. It looks clean and professional. There also seems to be far less shitposting there in my experience. I like the writers on both sites, but Massively looks way way better IMO. 


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5/24/13 1:57:13 PM#102
Seriously you Bill even played WarZ lately? If bad launch is requirement how about Neverwinter? Also Scarlet Blade is better than average asian MMO which isn't much to say. Your bashing sounds typical american crap where part nudity is worst than people getting shotted.

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5/24/13 2:06:02 PM#103
Hmm if we put Bill's head on a platter, maybe the zombies will come and War Z wouldn't be so bad XD

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5/24/13 2:15:34 PM#104
I wish I could give you a hug bill for blasting scarlet blade. the games ads and premise are laughable. I read they are adding a male character to the game. I just he they have a "junk size" slider like saints row. :p

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5/24/13 2:17:05 PM#105
On the matter of Scarlet Blade, I have to agree with the reason given on the list in the first place. Yes, a lot of games use visual eye candy to get your attention, but that usually isn't the entire selling point of the game. Scarlet Blade, on the other hand, never gets past the eye candy stage, and that is the problem I see. As a hook to lead you further in, that kind of eye candy is not only generally accepted, but common; rarely, though, do the pictures in the ads directly translate into the game itself, where the tantalizing factor is still there, but significantly toned down from what you see in ads. For Scarlet Blade, not only does that kind of toning down not occur, but the appeal to that base reaction is clearly a big part of maintaining interest in their game. In the end, the game itself seems to encourage the idea of it being a soft porn, and therefore, that aspect is certainly fair game for reviewers and critics. How you present your game is just as important as the game itself, and Scarlet Blade's gameplay would have to be the best ever seen in order for most people to see past it's initial presentation as a teenage boy's fantasy.  In the end, the ads themselves don't bother me as much as the fact that the game itself presents itself in the almost exactly the same manner as the ads, which in this case is not a good thing. Sex appeal, while common, is something best used with moderation and in conjunction with actual game content if you want people to take you seriously; this game does neither, and earns it's place on the list because of that.

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5/24/13 2:20:44 PM#106
Originally posted by Illyssia

Bill, about the shameless rip-offs of IP. There is a book by Max Brooks called World War Z....

Maybe DayZ stole a thing or two out of here, e.g. The name and zombie stuff? it was written in 2006 BTW.

Please, don't compare War Z with a good book like WWZ, in fact, the upcoming movie this summer featuring Brad Pitt is also likely to embarrass the title.

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5/24/13 2:24:25 PM#107
Originally posted by Sasami
Seriously you Bill even played WarZ lately? If bad launch is requirement how about Neverwinter? Also Scarlet Blade is better than average asian MMO which isn't much to say. Your bashing sounds typical american crap where part nudity is worst than people getting shotted.

Yep, sounds like typical "American" crap...  oh wait, perhaps the pot should be careful calling the kettle black.

But you are correct, we are more afraid of nudity than killing stuff, might explain all guns we have around here I suppose.


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5/24/13 2:36:03 PM#108

I don't like pornography, but I play Scarlet blade because I love the way the game looks, the scifi-fantasy mix. The game itself is a bit boring, mainly because of auto moving, but I definitely ain't playing it for the naked women.

As far as other games, I haven't played them, so I can't tell...

And yes, it's hypocrisy to advertise the game and then to spit on it...


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5/24/13 3:41:48 PM#109
I would have put Planetside 2 on this list. I haven't had a game perform that badly since Shadowbane was released. The optimization is just horrible if you are a AMD user. You can have a beast of a computer and still expect under 20 frames in combat.  It's been about 6 months since release and it hasn't gotten any better. They are down to 3 US servers and will probably be down to one by years end.

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5/24/13 3:50:27 PM#110
Do you guys remember when you let your userbase vote on whether Diablo 3 should be put on the site. I request that you let us users vote on whether we can take Scarlet Blade off the site. It would be nice to be able to have my computer on when my 4 year old is around without him getting an erection looking at my screen from their ads. Thanks. And no, this isn't a damned joke. It disgusts me.

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5/24/13 4:01:32 PM#111

Thas bullshit... this guy says scarlet blade is so bad because of its hentai theme. The game is great but he dont like hentai theme so its garbage... what a stupid review.

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5/24/13 4:56:25 PM#112
I am genuinely surprised of the list, not because I think they are good games, but because some games in this list had advertising on the site. Surprised in a good way.. maybe doesn't sway it's scores based on cash? Not absolutely convinced yet, but this is a good start. I like it!


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5/24/13 5:06:04 PM#113
Why is a fps survival considered a MMO? What?
Also there is much more failure mmorpg games out there comparing to scarlet blade.
Where is SWTOR?
This list feels very biased/opinion based. I'm not saying those games are good I'm just saying there are far worse games, yet they are not in the list XD

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5/24/13 5:10:15 PM#114

Breathing a sigh of relief that WorldAlpha didn't make the list! :)


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5/24/13 5:11:20 PM#115

Scarlet Blade did not belong on that list.


It was bug free, it had enough content to level on. Graphics were good, everything worked.


You guys didn't like the T&A so it's a crap game? How many times has a game been sold on T&A that wasn't there? These guys delivered. You need to get down off that white horse after all the money you were happy to take for the full page advertisements. Makes you look bad.


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5/24/13 5:17:42 PM#116

I almost, almost want to try Scarlet blade juste for the lolz after watching this video:

-Warning, nsfw langage and errr, furry lectures I guess-


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5/24/13 5:31:28 PM#117
I think this is a pretty good list, and I strongly agree with the #1 spot going to The War Z.  I am also glad to see that some of the the writers here agree that Scarlet Blade is pretty shallow in it's sex appeal to attract players.  Tons of games do this, it's not like SB is the first, but it's the most over the top MMO.  They might as well have a signup page that says "Want to see boobs?  Fill out this form to create your account!".  There are already adult sites for that :)  I don't want that spilling over into my MMOs. I had never downloaded a ad blocker until started running those ads.  Sadly it doesn't seem to block those sidebar ones, but I am still running the adblocker out of protest until I no longer see them.

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5/24/13 5:44:45 PM#118
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5/24/13 6:01:02 PM#119
Originally posted by Coated
Originally posted by GwapoJosh
Originally posted by BillMurphy
(In before Rob comes in and says SWTOR should be here...)

I'm siding with Rob on that one ;)

I'm also siding with this.

This list apparently doesn't take into account a number of categories that should be added. Categories such as - Games with the biggest budget yet failed -

Example: I'd put a failed MMORPG with a 300million dollar budget, A hard to screw up pre-arranged title, and enough resources at its disposal to make any company jealous before any of the titles you listed above.

There are well over 500 thousand gamers who would very much disagree with all of you about SWTOR.  It most definitely does not deserve a spot on the worst MMO list, but then again, I'm sure you're the same kind of gamer that would put WoW on there too.


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5/24/13 6:01:20 PM#120

I highly doubt hand picks the ads.  It is most likely handled through an ad agency that has a partnership with.

That being said...even if does pick the ads...who cares?  They're a business, not a moral compass for the gaming universe.

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