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  Coolit

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5/24/13 9:31:44 AM#41
Originally posted by Vannor
I'm happy to say I haven't played any of these games.

Me neither :D

Although I have read about a few of them and The War Z is in the right place.

 

  fascism

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5/24/13 9:39:12 AM#42
I've played all these and out of the 5 Asura Force is the worst it has zero redeeming qualities. The War Z is so bad that everyone should play it and see, Wizardry Online had a terrible launch but it has it's niche, DK Online had horrible optimization but it tried RVR, but its actually shut down already, and Scarlet Blade has the best game play of the games on the list but its just too generic to stand, it could be 100 other games but with half nude anime women.
 
  Rohn

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5/24/13 9:41:58 AM#43

There's a certain inherent American weakness when it comes to anything regarding sex - the ancient Puritan inevitably creeps in.

When politics, and political correctness, become a part of the review process, that's pretty much when I discount the credibility of a site's reviewers wholesale.

I think the writer missed more deserving games, like Darkfall, as one of the worst games of 2013 so far.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  Ice-Queen

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5/24/13 9:44:43 AM#44
Originally posted by Rohn

There's a certain inherent American weakness when it comes to anything regarding sex - the ancient Puritan inevitably creeps in.

When politics, and political correctness, become a part of the review process, that's pretty much when I discount the credibility of a site's reviewers wholesale.

I think the writer missed more deserving games, like Darkfall, as one of the worst games of 2013 so far.

The writer voted Darkfall as one of the best of 2013 if I remember correctly. It was terrible, shouldn't have let a few people here talk me into wasting my money on it, heh.

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  someforumguy

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5/24/13 9:47:37 AM#45

*Crazy display of violence*... meh ok.

*Nipples* ... oh noes! ban that evil game!

 

  XxGrimmxX

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5/24/13 9:48:53 AM#46

A lot of lost credit to you in my book, especially about the Scarlet Blade thing. I mean yeah it isn't for everyone, but neither is Hello Kitty or some other random genre of gaming. As an MMO reviewer it is important to remain as unbiased as possible and review games for what they are trying to present and accomplish. I don't know why everyone on the MMORPG.com board is so infatuated with Darkfall but not seeing it up there in the top 5 is kind of interesting.

 

  TheIdealist

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5/24/13 9:51:38 AM#47
Every day was a scarlet blade Ad in mmorpg.com and now you say is worst? 
  Holyfleadip

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5/24/13 9:51:57 AM#48

Good morning Bill,

 

I know you've been slammed a lot for your best list... /sigh  sorry for you man.  You might try listing them by numbers base on cold facts next time.  How much was spent to develop vs. how much made?  How many subs at start vs. how many left in a few months?  Opinions are great, but will always bring down infernos. 

 

I did agree with one reader WoT... Why not there?  However, I don't think it's a true MMO (it's online, massive  number of players, but not "MASSIVELY ONLINE" all at once in a persistent world - which I think is a true MMO), but you do list it on the site as an MMO.  It's makes it in money and number of players.  Has a growing business and more games coming.  I really hate the game, but why didn't it make the list?

 

Enough about that.... 2013 duds so far.... Not a bad list.

 

3-5)  I don't care about so they must belong there. lol

 

2) I saw that getting a smack down and a hand shake even before I read the readers replies.

 

I'm happy to see that the adds are not connected to reviews.  I disagree with the one reader who says that the sex shouldn't be connected to the review of the game.  They clearly stated,  IN THEIR OWN ADs, that the games most important content was gratuitous sex content.  The sad side is that there are those who might push this even further for more dollars in the future.  I know there are porn games out now, but I'd hate to see it become any more "in your face" than it already is.  It's not so much about the kids (start being guardians parents), but the lack of good content.  Why write good content if all you have to do is flash some skin.  SB is just sad.

 

1)  I think WOW should be number one and WarZ should be forgotten, "not worth mention".  WOW is loosing subs big vrs the amount spent on programming staff, ads, etc....  They are a massive failure when looking at their futures.  They are not able to see the number of players that are sick of their weak game for the temp players and baby sitting tools they have today.  They have lost their hardcore players for short term profit.  I hope they enjoy their grave.  My only wish for them is that they give me a server with Vanilla WOW or at most the Burning Crusade, and then NEVER touch it again with their ignorant hands.

 
 
 
  BillMurphy

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5/24/13 9:54:08 AM#49

Scarlet Blade's inclusion is not about the soft-core pornographic nature of its presentation, rather the fact that the game leans on that crutch so heavily when the rest of the title is merely bland at best.  Perhaps that wasn't made clear enough.  It's like the old Skin-emax movie Bikini Carwash.  Sure, anyone attracted to the feminine body can appreciate the base desires a movie like Bikini Carwash strives to endulge, but would you call it a great movie worth recommending to other fans of cinema? Right up there with the likes of Fargo and The Big Lebowski?

If your answer is yes, then this List probably isn't going to sit well with you.

PS, off-topic - What ever happened to late night Cinemax?  Is it still soft-core porn, or has it changed?  Genuinely curious. One would think with the invention of the internet, that little corner of cable is no longer necessary.  

  ShakyMo

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5/24/13 9:54:28 AM#50
Talking of swtor, that description you give for DK online, fits swtor pretty good too.

Good call on warz, horrible, questionably legal attempt to cash in on the success of both day z and the book / upcoming film the war z.
  Fendel84M

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5/24/13 9:57:37 AM#51
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Scarlet Blade's inclusion is not about the soft-core pornographic nature of its presentation, rather the fact that the game leans on that crutch so heavily when the rest of the title is merely bland at best.  Perhaps that wasn't made clear enough.  It's like the old Skin-emax movie Bikini Carwash.  Sure, anyone attracted to the feminine body can appreciate the base desires a movie like Bikini Carwash strives to endulge, but would you call it a great movie worth recommending to other fans of cinema? Right up there with the likes of Fargo and The Big Lebowski?

If your answer is yes, then this List probably isn't going to sit well with you.

PS, off-topic - What ever happened to late night Cinemax?  Is it still soft-core porn, or has it changed?  Genuinely curious. One would think with the invention of the internet, that little corner of cable is no longer necessary.  

Oh, it's still there in full force. And it is just as bad as ever.

  coretex666

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5/24/13 9:58:10 AM#52
Must be really hard to pick 5 when there are so many candidates.

Playing: Chronicle 1
Waiting for: None of the games already announced

My game concept thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/369707 (any feedback appreciated)

  someforumguy

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5/24/13 10:00:55 AM#53
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Scarlet Blade's inclusion is not about the soft-core pornographic nature of its presentation, rather the fact that the game leans on that crutch so heavily when the rest of the title is merely bland at best.  Perhaps that wasn't made clear enough.  It's like the old Skin-emax movie Bikini Carwash.  Sure, anyone attracted to the feminine body can appreciate the base desires a movie like Bikini Carwash strives to endulge, but would you call it a great movie worth recommending to other fans of cinema? Right up there with the likes of Fargo and The Big Lebowski?

If your answer is yes, then this List probably isn't going to sit well with you.

PS, off-topic - What ever happened to late night Cinemax?  Is it still soft-core porn, or has it changed?  Genuinely curious. One would think with the invention of the internet, that little corner of cable is no longer necessary.  

Maybe this works better :

'even if the game was a stunning achievement of MMO design and depth, we’d still find it shockingly and face-palmingly shallow in its audacious attempt at gaining players by appealing to our love for violence',

Which can be said for many games in general. Also very good games.

Edited for clarification :

My point is that you basically admit that you didn't know at the time of writing whether SB is a good game or not,but used its obvious appeal to a primitive desire as reason to default it as bad game.

 

  furbans

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5/24/13 10:13:06 AM#54
Originally posted by ControlBlue
Originally posted by mussolini

Worst mmorpg's in this year?

1. Neverwinter

2. Age of Wushu

 

The sht what the small companies makes... Only the big fails interest!!

Please cease existence.

Neverwinter most definitely should be there.  If only from the crowd of D&D fans since that game is an abomination for those D&D fans that followed the game since launch.  Of which most don't even post on the forums anymore and how there was so much chargebacks that PWE made a statement.

The game might be a really good F2P game but for the D&D fans it is a desecration of the beloved IP. 

Ironic how they made a statement that it's for D&D fans when it clearly is not and is for the generic MMO powergamer crowd.

  DamonVile

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5/24/13 10:14:14 AM#55
Originally posted by someforumguy
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Scarlet Blade's inclusion is not about the soft-core pornographic nature of its presentation, rather the fact that the game leans on that crutch so heavily when the rest of the title is merely bland at best.  Perhaps that wasn't made clear enough.  It's like the old Skin-emax movie Bikini Carwash.  Sure, anyone attracted to the feminine body can appreciate the base desires a movie like Bikini Carwash strives to endulge, but would you call it a great movie worth recommending to other fans of cinema? Right up there with the likes of Fargo and The Big Lebowski?

If your answer is yes, then this List probably isn't going to sit well with you.

PS, off-topic - What ever happened to late night Cinemax?  Is it still soft-core porn, or has it changed?  Genuinely curious. One would think with the invention of the internet, that little corner of cable is no longer necessary.  

Maybe this works better :

'even if the game was a stunning achievement of MMO design and depth, we’d still find it shockingly and face-palmingly shallow in its audacious attempt at gaining players by appealing to our love for violence',

Which can be said for many games in general. Also very good games.

Edited for clarification :

My point is that you basically admit that you didn't know at the time of writing whether SB is a good game or not,but used its obvious appeal to a primitive desire as reason to default it as bad game.

 

^this

No one is really saying it's worthy of best mmo of 2013 ( although some would I'm sure) It's putting a game you've never played on the worst list that doesn't sit well with people who were expecting a serious "review" from a professional. Your attempts to back track out of what you did say ( there's no misinterpreting it )  Isn't helping.

 

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  BillMurphy

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5/24/13 10:16:32 AM#56
Originally posted by DamonVile
 

^this

No one is really saying it's worthy of best mmo of 2013 ( although some would I'm sure) It's putting a game you've never played on the worst list that doesn't sit well with people who were expecting a serious "review" from a professional. Your attempts to back track out of what you did say ( there's no misinterpreting it )  Isn't helping.

 

Not back-tracking, explaining the reason for its inclusion.  I've read our staff's previews, talked with our writers who've played it, and all seem to agree: it's schlocky at best, regardless of its veneer.  

If you're a fan, I apologize.  But I'll stand by its inclusion here, based merely on what it represents: a cheap, base, gimmick of a hook.

  Maaku

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5/24/13 10:16:57 AM#57
Good list and whoever wants to put swtor on this list has forgotten what the RPG in mmoRPG stands for. Show me any other mmo that lets you Role Play your character as much in the games universe as swtor and I'll by you cookies for a year.

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  Crazy_Stick

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5/24/13 10:17:23 AM#58
Am I being fair to write that we are experiencing a terrible time in the industry when the worst games of the year seem to be some of  the biggest advertisers on site recently?
  Thorbrand

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5/24/13 10:19:03 AM#59
Wait Scarlet Blade is the only good MMO to come out this year so far. The rest are crap...Look at what we have been given, half ass games that aren't even up to technology standards from 10yrs ago. Terrible companies today just out to rip the consumer off.
  Talonsin

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5/24/13 10:28:38 AM#60
Nice to see War Z at the top of this list.  It was/is a terrible game and the developers continue to stick it to those people silly enough to be loyal to it by reducing spawn rates of things that can be purchased in their cash shop.  It is actually very sad to see this kind of outright greed in our industry.

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