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General Discussion  » Finally a game that deserves to be on the hype meter

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  Rusque

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5/23/13 7:46:27 AM#41

The landscape and cities looked great, And then they showed the combat and I lol'd. Why build a world that looks like that and then plop in some typical weightless particle effect fireworks anime combat?

Anyway, really doubt it will be a great game - people get hyped too easily round these parts.

  Sovrath

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5/23/13 8:48:45 AM#42
Originally posted by Rusque

The landscape and cities looked great, And then they showed the combat and I lol'd. Why build a world that looks like that and then plop in some typical weightless particle effect fireworks anime combat?

Anyway, really doubt it will be a great game - people get hyped too easily round these parts.

I would agree here, I'm not a fan of "weightless particle effect fireworks" combat.

But I think I could manage if the rest of the world is large and I can just lose myself in it.

Having said that, it's a huge shame we aren't going to see this title for a few years.

  DamonVile

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5/23/13 9:32:16 AM#43
Originally posted by Sovrath

 

The hype meter is more about "the excitement and buzz" of the game regardless of any concrete evidence that the game is good (or bad)

I know what the word means...but thanks for the dictionary copy paste. The title of the thread is " deserves" the hype., not oh look it's on there.

 

 

de·serve

[dih-zurv] Show IPA verb, de·served, de·serv·ing.
verb (used with object)
1.
to merit, be qualified for, or have a claim to (reward, assistance, punishment, etc.) because of actions, qualities, or situation: to deserve exile; to deserve charity; a theory that deserves consideration.

verb (used without object)

2.
to be worthy of, qualified for, or have a claim to reward, punishment, recompense, etc.: to reward him as he deserves; an idea deserving of study.

 

:P

 

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  bubaluba

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5/23/13 9:34:32 AM#44
Awesome graphic with fast paced Asiatic style of combat.
  coretex666

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"I shall take your position into consideration"

5/23/13 11:41:53 AM#45

To me, it seems that Eastern MMO developers are more creative and innovative than their competitors in the West.

Just look at examples of games that are currently being developed or have been released recently in the East like ArcheAge and Black Desert. They look so fresh.

I realize both these games may be bad and fail hard in the end. It is not about them in particular. It is more about the concepts which seem to be so much different from what Western developers have bound themselves to since WoW came out.

One generic themepark after another have been coming out in the West.

Consider examples of games that are being developed here like Wildstar and  TESO or recently released games like GW 2 or Neverwinter. Western players are so used to the same old MMO design that the lack of so called holy trinity seems like a revolution to them.

I am personally quite excited about Eastern MMORPGs now as it seems to me that nothing spectacular will be coming from Western developers any time soon. I am not a big fan of hype, but I completely understand why someone makes a title like this. Excitement about an MMORPG which seems to be built around a fresh concept is quite justified for a Western player who has been bombarded by generic themeparks for last decade.

Maybe it is just me, but this is how I feel about it.

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4

  User Deleted
5/23/13 12:07:08 PM#46
Originally posted by coretex666

To me, it seems that Eastern MMO developers are more creative and innovative than their competitors in the West.

Just look at examples of games that are currently being developed or have been released recently in the East like ArcheAge and Black Desert. They look so fresh.

I realize both these games may be bad and fail hard in the end. It is not about them in particular. It is more about the concepts which seem to be so much different from what Western developers have bound themselves to since WoW came out.

One generic themepark after another have been coming out in the West.

Consider examples of games that are being developed here like Wildstar and  TESO or recently released games like GW 2 or Neverwinter. Western players are so used to the same old MMO design that the lack of so called holy trinity seems like a revolution to them.

I am personally quite excited about Eastern MMORPGs now as it seems to me that nothing spectacular will be coming from Western developers any time soon. I am not a big fan of hype, but I completely understand why someone makes a title like this. Excitement about an MMORPG which seems to be built around a fresh concept is quite justified for a Western player who has been bombarded by generic themeparks for last decade.

Maybe it is just me, but this is how I feel about it.

I do to. I hope they stick to the plans of making it all about player driven stuff. It seems to have a great base to build upon. Hopefully none of the crazy insane profitmongering box releasing RNG breaking western corporations get their dirty grubby hands on this one. (Nexon, NCsoft, EA, PWE)

  Grailer

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5/23/13 4:00:45 PM#47

Trust me this game is going to be the greatest MMORPG ever created.

People will be playing this for at least a decade. This is WOWs first major threat

Ever concieved. The graphics shown look better in reality but your PC cant 

display the greatness. The combat will be 1000x times better by release.

 

when you see trash mobs you won't want to skip it will be like bees to honey.

 

simply put this game will blow you away.

  ZedTheRock

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5/23/13 4:05:26 PM#48
Anything Korean automatically raises a red flag.  Their entire culture is so different then those of us in the west that games from Korea and other parts of Asia usually consist of over sexualized avatars, unrealistic kee-yaw style combat, and happy rainbw unicorn art styles.

SUP

  ZedTheRock

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Posts: 175

5/23/13 4:07:11 PM#49
Originally posted by Grailer

Trust me this game is going to be the greatest MMORPG ever created.

People will be playing this for at least a decade. This is WOWs first major threat

Ever concieved. The graphics shown look better in reality but your PC cant 

display the greatness. The combat will be 1000x times better by release.

 

when you see trash mobs you won't want to skip it will be like bees to honey.

 

simply put this game will blow you away.

Keep it in your pants big boy.  Overhyped has led to the death of many a MMO and until you play it and until the game has had a year or more to mature know amount of wishful thinking will make something so that isnt.

SUP

  Daxamar

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5/23/13 4:10:25 PM#50

Got my eye on this one. Still WAY to early to really say anything other  that they have a great trailer.

I play Korean games, and Western MMOs. Dont get hung up on graphics. Its all about how the game plays.

 

Way too early to call this the next best thing, in my opinion.

  Vahrane

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5/23/13 4:16:30 PM#51
Originally posted by ZedTheRock
Anything Korean automatically raises a red flag.  Their entire culture is so different then those of us in the west that games from Korea and other parts of Asia usually consist of over sexualized avatars, unrealistic kee-yaw style combat, and happy rainbw unicorn art styles.

     Maybe you should at least watch one of their videos first and then, if still unimpressed, make a post detailing what this particular game could do better. As it is, unrealistic combat and over sexualized avatars aren't solely within the domain of eastern games. That being said, the character models for this game aren't designed by prudes but retain a more refined aesthetic. I didn't see any happy unicorns with rainbows when I watched either. Those got left in Diablo III as a "joke". 

  Hatefull

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Your tears make my gun work better.

5/23/13 4:18:16 PM#52
Originally posted by Whitebeards
Originally posted by JimmyYO

Long overdo to be introduced to the west I preset to you: Black Desert or what ArcheAge should've been. These devs would die before they let a race car drive around in this world. In case you someone missed the amazing promo video, here you are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhYVY6Ttt7o

The sad part is this game has more of a Dungeons and Dragons feel then Neverwinter ever will.

You people are great. Gotto love how quick you guys jump from one hype bandwagon to another. Not so long ago it was all about AA and now it BD soon it will be some other MMO.

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking.  Ohhh shiny! best game ever.  Until the next shiny comes along.

If you want a new idea, go read an old book.

  ZedTheRock

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5/23/13 4:21:37 PM#53
Originally posted by Vahrane
Originally posted by ZedTheRock
Anything Korean automatically raises a red flag.  Their entire culture is so different then those of us in the west that games from Korea and other parts of Asia usually consist of over sexualized avatars, unrealistic kee-yaw style combat, and happy rainbw unicorn art styles.

     Maybe you should at least watch one of their videos first and then, if still unimpressed, make a post detailing what this particular game could do better. As it is, unrealistic combat and over sexualized avatars aren't solely within the domain of eastern games. That being said, the character models for this game aren't designed by prudes but retain a more refined aesthetic. I didn't see any happy unicorns with rainbows when I watched either. Those got left in Diablo III as a "joke". 

Watched the video and I saw Asian Influences through and through.  From Frilly cottoney short dresses to over stylized flashy colorful combat animations.

 

Calleme a cynic but I love boring not flash.

SUP

  Vahrane

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5/23/13 4:24:07 PM#54
Originally posted by Hatefull
Originally posted by Whitebeards

You people are great. Gotto love how quick you guys jump from one hype bandwagon to another. Not so long ago it was all about AA and now it BD soon it will be some other MMO.

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking.  Ohhh shiny! best game ever.  Until the next shiny comes along.

Was never impressed by Arche Age beyond considering the graphics decent, but they're the least of my concerns when actually choosing to hype a new game (unless they're absolutely abysmal like Wurm Online). 

  Vahrane

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5/23/13 4:38:05 PM#55
Originally posted by ZedTheRock
Originally posted by Vahrane
Originally posted by ZedTheRock
Anything Korean automatically raises a red flag.  Their entire culture is so different then those of us in the west that games from Korea and other parts of Asia usually consist of over sexualized avatars, unrealistic kee-yaw style combat, and happy rainbw unicorn art styles.

     Maybe you should at least watch one of their videos first and then, if still unimpressed, make a post detailing what this particular game could do better. As it is, unrealistic combat and over sexualized avatars aren't solely within the domain of eastern games. That being said, the character models for this game aren't designed by prudes but retain a more refined aesthetic. I didn't see any happy unicorns with rainbows when I watched either. Those got left in Diablo III as a "joke". 

Watched the video and I saw Asian Influences through and through.  From Frilly cottoney short dresses to over stylized flashy colorful combat animations.

 

Calleme a cynic but I love boring not flash.

    Guess I missed all that. Seriously, I watched their vids again and am fairly lost as to where you're seeing the " frilly cottoney" dresses (Who does cotton think it is anyway? Comprising many of my daily textiles! It can shove off!). The combat animations might have been stylized but weren't all that flashy either. Again, Diablo III had, at least equally, flashy animations as well. I'm not really sure why you love "boring" either. Unless you're trying to fix your engines pistons.

  Jinxys

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5/23/13 5:31:34 PM#56

This looks very impressive. One to keep on my radar for the future. I fear this could be a long wait though. Hasn't even been any new info about when AA is coming here. But thanks for bringing this game to my attention. The trailer is most impressive!

I love the way the Koreans make their characters. Even in Lineage 2 as old as it is, the characters there still look better than most modern western mmo's ( In my opinion )

 

  Jinxys

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5/23/13 8:45:58 PM#57
Originally posted by ZedTheRock
Originally posted by Vahrane
Originally posted by ZedTheRock
Anything Korean automatically raises a red flag.  Their entire culture is so different then those of us in the west that games from Korea and other parts of Asia usually consist of over sexualized avatars, unrealistic kee-yaw style combat, and happy rainbw unicorn art styles.

     Maybe you should at least watch one of their videos first and then, if still unimpressed, make a post detailing what this particular game could do better. As it is, unrealistic combat and over sexualized avatars aren't solely within the domain of eastern games. That being said, the character models for this game aren't designed by prudes but retain a more refined aesthetic. I didn't see any happy unicorns with rainbows when I watched either. Those got left in Diablo III as a "joke". 

Watched the video and I saw Asian Influences through and through.  From Frilly cottoney short dresses to over stylized flashy colorful combat animations.

 

Calleme a cynic but I love boring not flash.

I think what it comes down to is preference. Personally I love the Eastern style of art. While I'm not a fan of 300ft long smacking sticks called swords I still was very impressed at how the characters were in that trailer. I think with characters looking that good both Male and Female, you can get a real sense of connection with your character. 

For me personally characters in Western mmo's are usually the weakest point, While in Eastern mmo's you can really see the creativity reflected in their characters. But again it all boils down to your preference I guess :)

 

  tazarconan

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5/23/13 8:50:52 PM#58
Originally posted by JimmyYO

Long overdo to be introduced to the west I preset to you: Black Desert or what ArcheAge should've been. These devs would die before they let a race car drive around in this world. In case you someone missed the amazing promo video, here you are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhYVY6Ttt7o

The sad part is this game has more of a Dungeons and Dragons feel then Neverwinter ever will.

MMORPG by the creators of C9. Featuring a similar action combat system...

I stopped watching the video right there ;/

  Chrisbox

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5/23/13 8:53:44 PM#59
Looks so awesome, I just hope the Large scale PvP is done right. 

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Playing-WoW,FFXIV:ARR,AA
Want-WoD,WH40K:EC

  Mkilbride

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5/23/13 9:03:45 PM#60

Hype scale just dropped over 20 points. It was found out someone was creating accounts and spamming 10's.

 

Naughty naughty.

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