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  Icewhite

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5/23/13 2:35:34 AM#21

Amateur art critic, unpaid.

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  Dogblaster

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5/23/13 2:37:43 AM#22
Originally posted by Wizardry

This is not really about art style,they are simply put really cheap graphics.You can have a cartoony art style but do a really good job with it,example as mentioned by other people PIXAR.Now of course i don't expect Pixar quality but i definitely expect a better effort than what Wildstar's team is giving us.

As mentioned >>Blizzard,they really do utilize old engines and cheap graphics in all their games.

I can cut some slack and not expect HD or even 720p if it is a new dev like Wildstar's team but Blizzard??No excuse .

Cuting Wildstar some slack does not mean i accept the bottom of the barrel graphics,like i said they SHOULD have put a BETTER effort into that art style.

Point is,it has NOTHING to do with direction or art style,has everything to do with decent quality and effort.

To the statement "doesn't mean it doesn't look nice" well of course not but in case of Wildstar it DOES mean exactly that.

This is not to confuse the gaming part either, they are doing some really good things in Wildstar,but they are taking so many positives and ruining it all with no effort in the graphics department.Reason is simple,they want a game that can run for pennies in free to play mode.

I would say my gut tells me ,they never expected this kind of interest in their game,so they went the cheaper route.I bet if hind sight was in their favor they would do a better job with graphics,even with the same art style.

Hah .. cheap graphics in WildStar?

I recommend you to visit eye specialist, he may help you. If he says everything is alright, just go to the madhouse, plenty of room for people like you there :) Meanwhile you are there, I will be enjoying WildStar's awesome graphics.

  tank017

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5/23/13 2:41:59 AM#23

Looks like something out of a Pixar or Dream Works film...

 

not a fan of the art at all really.

  Skuz

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5/23/13 2:45:51 AM#24

Subjective OP, very subjective.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

You don't like the graphics style, okay. I do.

  Sinaku

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5/23/13 2:57:51 AM#25

There is a difference between art style and graphic quality. Ascetics and graphics aren't the same thing. I personally don't like cartoon style (WoW, Ratchet and Clank, and most cell shading games) but really this game looks nice and I will definitely give credit where credit is due.

Graphic quality is on par with all new age MMOs and I think you may just be upset at the art style and letting that get in the way of seeing how nice the game actually looks. As someone stated in a previous reply, this game is light years ahead of WoW graphically.

  Methos12

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5/23/13 3:02:48 AM#26
What OP doesn't like is game's art STYLE. It looks quite proficiently made in the graphics department when you look at texture and model quality.

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  MadDemon64

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5/23/13 10:20:30 AM#27
I like these graphics.  It's cartoonish, semi-kiddy-retro-futuristic (think Ratchet and Clank or Earthworm Jim), and most importantly, expressive and instantly gives everyone a recognizable personalities.  Its like someone designed the worlds greatest sci-fi cartoon and turned it into a video game.  There is nothing I hate about the graphics or the art design; of course its not for everyone (the OP is evidence of that), but to me, I can't bring myself to hate it.

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  gameguy369

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5/23/13 10:41:03 AM#28

This is an insane topic. You can say that this art style is not your taste, but to say WoW/WildStar has some of the worst graphics ever? LOL. I actually credit WoW's art style for it's ability to hang on this long.

  Lethal920

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5/23/13 10:42:50 AM#29
I always enjoyed WoW's graphics, and I'm sure I'll enjoy Wildstar's.

  nerovipus32

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5/23/13 10:43:59 AM#30
Wildstar hype has gone into over drive.
  Myrdynn

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5/23/13 10:54:38 AM#31

Wildstar proved once again to me that I care nothing about graphics, they are fine to me. 

The gameplay is very important, and thats what I look for.

They said before and its a good point, if you go realistic graphics your game is going to look outdated in a year when better cards and engines come along.  With the cartoon style the graphics can get slight upgrades, sharper colors, but its not that big of a deal.

Play the game, without looking at the cartoony stuff (which actually fits the gameplay with some of the quests especially) and then form an opinion

 

  MadDemon64

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Why is it that fantasy trolls are vulnerable to fire, but internet trolls thrive on flame wars?

5/23/13 11:10:08 AM#32
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Wildstar hype has gone into over drive.

Hmm, sounds familiar.  I could have sworn that the same happened to numerous other MMOs.  I know one was made by a particularly famous dev company owned by EA based on a longstanding IP, and another game by another equally famous dev company, this time owned by NCSoft, and this one a sequel to their other MMO, but right now the names escape me...

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  rojoArcueid

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5/23/13 11:22:05 AM#33

the OP is confusing art style with graphic quality. Look at WoW vanilla, then look at Pandaria. The same art style but pandaria has more quality.  This is what happens with Wildstar, it has wow-esque artstyle but the graphics have more quality (crisper colors, etc).

All these cartoony mmos have more longevity than realistic mmos like TSW because they can easily update the graphics and make huge improvements (speaking only about visuals, not actual fun or boring gameplay that impacts longevity too). With realistic art style on the other hand,  graphics will always look dated from a few years back.

 

Whether i play Wildstar or not, their cartoony graphics are very good and i want more mmos with cartoony graphics and less realistic graphics. Of course there are a ton of ways to make cartoony mmos with totally different art styles like Blade and Soul, Tera, Wildstar, NW, Ragnarok 2. All of them look different, all are cartoony (yes anime is cartoony too), and all look great.

 

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  Instigator-Jones

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5/23/13 11:40:36 AM#34
Well OP, it would appear that so far the majority of posts feel that your idea of graphics quality (corrected to mean 'graphics style') simply does not meet the standards of what modern MMO players want. I have to agree, Wildstar is taking on a definitive style that will be recognizable and separate from other offerings. I think the move is brilliant and as long as gameplay meets muster, I think you'll see this title for quite some time.
  SpottyGekko

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5/23/13 11:55:26 AM#35

I love Skyrim's graphics.

 

I also love Wildstar's graphics.

 

Both those games have graphics that suit them very well, and perfectly complement what the game is trying to achieve.

 

If you're a deadly serious person with no sense of humour, you may not enjoy Wildstar.

If you're one of those people who has a terminal case of "grown-up", then Wildstar's cartoon style might not appeal to you because it's too "childish". In which case you most probably hate The Simpsons, South Park, Futurama or any of Pixar's movies.

 

If you don't already like the Wildstar cartoony graphics, get over yourself and learn to have fun ! 

  Loktofeit

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5/23/13 12:01:15 PM#36
I like the stylized look. It seems to fit well with the atmosphere of the game.

  Br3akingDawn

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5/23/13 12:05:29 PM#37
Too bad graphics isnt all about an mmo. Besides its not bad. Though I wouldnt say awesome. I'll be playing Wildstar when release or when I can get into beta!!! Then i would decide. Have you played Rift? damn that game taxes my system, when it shouldnt be. I blame bad coding. Not hardcore graphics.

  Drakynn

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5/23/13 12:09:47 PM#38

Graphics are more than just the art style.The art style seems fine to me and I like the humor that it seems to invoke but form gameplay videos the animations seem smooth and fluid and have a nice flow between them which is very important to me.

Performance is also an issue in MMORPGs and I for one will sacrfice some polygons for smooth gameplay when my screen is full of NPCs and players.A cartoonish art style allows for lower polygon counts whilst still looking pleasing to the eye something a game trying for realism can't do.

  Sovrath

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5/23/13 12:11:50 PM#39
Originally posted by Arcticnoon

Am I the only one who realizes that WoW has one of the worst graphics engine and art design of any half popular mmo out? We give WoW a break because, hell their engine is going on 10 years old, but then I look at a game like FFXI that is even older and was created for PS2! Look at water in one and then the water in the other and you tell me what you see. And then there's Wildstar..... Same crappy graphics and art design. Makes sense they both originated from the great house of Blizzard. If I wanted to play a saturday morning cartoon I would play Ragnarok 2, who's art design is truly art. I think games like Wildstar give us such crappy art because they know it doesnt  tax their engine like the graphics of Archage or FFXIV. And my lord have you seen Black Desert?! Square Enix knew that their 5 star graphics of FFXIV were too hard on their engine, especially with hundreds of potential player in one area. So they toned them down, got a new engine and guess what? They still are one of the very best looking games out there. I have actual game play footage as my screen saver cause they look so damn clean. And their art design is second to none.

If you dont spend major time and money on your art and graphics then it leaves more time and resources for other things. But It doesnt matter if you are soloing, team play, questing, pvping, raiding, crafting or farming. Youre always looking at the graphics and art design. It seems only asian developers realize this.

If I'm going to spend the next 5 years looking at a game shouldnt I enjoy what I'm looking at every moment and have wonder? I mean after every expansion of WoW and monthly fees Ive given them north of 600 bucks. For crappy graphics.

No thanks Wildstar.

Other than this being your opinion, there is a lot wrong with your post.

So "A", this is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Some will not agree of course.

B, you are assuming that all art design is trying to accomplish the same thing. One aesthetic might be highly stylized and another might be trying for realism. Other than you liking one or another they are a bit like apples and oranges.

C, having "realistic water" in a game where everything is very stylized would be considered "bad art design" you want everything in your game looking like it came from the same game.

D, Asian developers have their own faux pas

E, Just because a game is newer doesn't mean they should adopt a realistic art design. It does mean that they should try to make whatever design they use be pleasing to those who might like it as well as make the art design/graphics not stand out in a way that detracts from the gaming experience.

In general I agree with you in that Wild Star's or WoW's art design is not to my taste. But that isn't what makes it good or bad.

 

  FlawSGI

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5/23/13 12:23:25 PM#40

 I hated WoW's art style and graphics on site, yet I played it longer than any other MMO I have tried to get involved in and after a while of playing I barely noticed how awful it was until I quit and saw it again later. Even though I think the art is god aweful, it grew on me and didn't detract from the game once I got invested.

 

I hated Borderlands art style and graphics so I passed on it until a friend talked me into some Co-op action and now Borderlands 2 is one of my favorite games to play and I have grown to really appreciate the aesthetics. I also absolutely love the amount of humor mixed with a dark undertone that the story takes on.

 

Now we are discussing Wildstar and well, I don't actually have a problem with the game looking like something out of a Pixar film. I have seen some games that looked cheaply made and graphically disgusting and this title doesn't feel that way to me on site. If the gameplay is fun engrossing, I am positive I will adapt to anything that displeases me aesthetically. 

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