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  AlBQuirky

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5/22/13 8:43:32 AM#121


Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Zorgo

Originally posted by Calerxes
First game I ever played on a home computer, BBC Micro A in 1981, was a farming simulator... those were the days, proper games for proper gamers..

OH! look.. http://www.farming-simulator.com/



Wow those graphics look great for 1981 /wink.

The second game was Star Trek, where you spent a great deal of time blowing up Klingons in a stunningly realistic text grid. Dates to the mid-70s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_%28text_game%29

On the CDC mainframe, we operated it at  a stunning 180 baud. The guy with the 300 baud in the comp sci office had a clear (and completely unfair) advantage, his text screen would get scolled much more quickly.

">You are dead. You are already dead."

Didn't Oregon Trail have occasional Injun attacks?

Advent had the groo that might eat you in the dark and thief throwing knives at you in the little maze of twisting passages that are all alike...or was the Groo from Zork?

By the time we got around to Arcades, the combating of alien invasions and suchlike were clearly earning more quarters than the pinball machines.

And indirectly, that's the answer to the op's question.



I remember playing a Star Trek like game in high school in my computer math class on our trusty old Sol stand alone. It came on a cassette tape!

But arcades were not ONLY fighting games. There were skiing games, racing games, sports games. I never got far with Dragon's Lair. Did Dirk the Daring ever actually fight anyone? I just remember trying (and failing) to react fast enough to choose the right path :) I know that the majority of arcade games were fighting games, though.

I don't think anyone is saying combat and fighting is icky, yucky, and terri-bad. I enjoy it. To a point. I think most players do. But the focus has certainly gone overboard in MMOs in some players' minds.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
- FARGIN_WAR

  Calerxes

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5/22/13 8:54:36 AM#122
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by Calerxes
 

 

First game I ever played on a home computer, BBC Micro A in 1981, was a farming simulator... those were the days, proper games for proper gamers.. 

OH! look.. http://www.farming-simulator.com/

 

Wow those graphics look great for 1981 /wink.

The second game was Star Trek, where you spent a great deal of time blowing up Klingons in a stunningly realistic text grid. Dates to the mid-70s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_%28text_game%29

On the CDC mainframe, we operated it at  a stunning 180 baud. The guy with the 300 baud in the comp sci office had a clear (and completely unfair) advantage, his text screen would get scolled much more quickly.

">You are dead. You are already dead."

Didn't Oregon Trail have occasional Injun attacks?

Advent had the groo that might eat you in the dark and thief throwing knives at you in the little maze of twisting passages that are all alike...or was the Groo from Zork?

By the time we got around to Arcades, the combating of alien invasions and suchlike were clearly earning more quarters than the pinball machines and foosball.

And indirectly, that's the answer to the op's question.

 

Nothings new under the sun, PAY2WIN in the bloody 70's, have we really evolved? 

 

It all comes down to economics do you spend x amount of time, money and resources on allowing players to dance and entertain for 1% of the playerbase who enjoy that sort of thing or do we concentrate on killing and adventuring which the other 99% love, Hmmm! decisions decisions.

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  Calerxes

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5/22/13 8:55:37 AM#123
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by Calerxes
 

 

First game I ever played on a home computer, BBC Micro A in 1981, was a farming simulator... those were the days, proper games for proper gamers.. 

OH! look.. http://www.farming-simulator.com/

 

Wow those graphics look great for 1981 /wink.

 

Fantastic computer that BBC micro, ahead of its time. 

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  Icewhite

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5/22/13 8:58:54 AM#124
Originally posted by Calerxes

It all comes down to economics do you spend x amount of time, money and resources on allowing players to dance and entertain for 1% of the playerbase who enjoy that sort of thing or do we concentrate on killing and adventuring which the other 99% love, Hmmm! decisions decisions.

Nothing wrong with variety, let's do them both.

But like Space Invaders vs Captain Fantastic, you can't really gripe about it when one earns more quarters.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  jayarte

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5/22/13 9:11:40 AM#125

Absolutely agree with OP.  In fact, in my own case, I'd go further and say that I am a pacifist.  It's not only the killing of "the other side" that I hate (in games as in real life),  it's also the indiscriminate killing of other species.  Kill the wolves, kill the deer, kill just about anything.  It's getting to a stage that I find it hard to play any game any more because it just sickens me.  

 

Back in vanilla WoW, I always loved the quest (druid quest maybe) where you had to cure the poisoned deer.  And later in Wrath where you had to free baby mammoths from traps (or some such).  I love stuff like that.  Or maybe you could have options whereby you had a goal to achieve and you could either kill to get there, or sneak round/past/through, or use diplomatic skills, or something.  Just give us more options, please.

 

I'm not saying I don't want any combat at all, but I would like it to be meaningful combat within a context, ie where I have to kill to save my life or that of other people/animals etc.  You could argue that the over-arching story in most fantasy mmo's is exactly that: we are fighting to "save the world", but somehow it never feels like that, it just ends up feeling like repetitive slaughter.

  Calerxes

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5/22/13 9:31:02 AM#126
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Calerxes

It all comes down to economics do you spend x amount of time, money and resources on allowing players to dance and entertain for 1% of the playerbase who enjoy that sort of thing or do we concentrate on killing and adventuring which the other 99% love, Hmmm! decisions decisions.

Nothing wrong with variety, let's do them both.

But like Space Invaders vs Captain Fantastic, you can't really gripe about it when one earns more quarters.

 


 

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  nariusseldon

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5/22/13 10:17:48 AM#127
Originally posted by Biskop
 

A very good post and I agree 100%. It's like some people here fail to realize that the OP is not saying combat should be removed and everybody be forced to do "mundane tasks" instead. All he's saying is that today's games focus too much on combat and exclude all other options because there's this widespread notion that anything but non stop slaughter is dull and boring.


 

At the root, even stealth gameplay is about violence. You avoid NPCs who want to kill you, and you kill or disable them with less direct means than blazing your guns.

I am all for choices .. but choices for conflict resolution. Deus Ex is a great example. You can avoid violence. You can use less violence (disable, not kill). You can kill directly, stealthly, with robots and less direct means. But at the end, it is still about violence.

Now if you put in the choice to bake bread, or tends to garden in game, it is irrelevant for me, because that is not fun for me. I won't care if you put it in, but certainly that resouces going into make that does zero fun for me.

 

  Lithuanian

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5/23/13 2:10:56 AM#128

My two cents (again).

Stealth games may be not entirely on violence. Or, to make things better, they can offer great many choices.

Example: you are Allied top-spy and need to infiltrate Nazi facility, steal "Tiger IV" documentation and destroy equipment needed to produce these monster-tanks. And here you go with moral choices. You can kill the guard, sounding alarm (every kill does it) and fight too hard to neariest safe place. However, the more you kill, the more you are hated by any civilian or enemy and should you kill too much - everyone would try to kill you, also - do not expect any friendly civilian. You can knock the guard and have 45% probability of souding alarm - but if things go good, you just go to the neariest safe place. If you knock too much - Allied HQ will notice you refrain from violence and may drop some "silent way" equipment, commend you or even give a medal; civilians will be kind of friendly towards you. You can bypass guard, killing/knocking nobody. If you do it too much - enemy and civilians will respect you (reasons different, of course) and should some officer try to catch you - there is a good chance enemy soldier will try to be at your side, like "Herr Officer, but this Allied spy did not harm any of our men! He spared my life while he had a chance to kill!". Civilians will be helpfull: they will give you food, medicines, distract enemy patrols or occasionally self-sacrifice (however, up to first killing).

Imagine in this game player rushes to Tiger-IV base...and NPC asks to bring him to some place nearby, he would pay with a bunch of Reichsmarks. Player has to choose, whether this is Gestapo agent (and protagonist will be killed), deserter or civilian. Outcome may be different: if player acts positively towards civilians, they will help him: hide, give food, information. If player ignores civilians - they will mostly ignore him; if player is bad towards civilians - Allied war effort is slowed down, civilians become pro-Nazi.

Of course, in such game the more silent and stealth you are, the better equippment you may use. Be very silent and you could use enemy uniform with documents: nobody will suspect since you are Shadow, a legend whose face was not seen. Help great many civilians and one day you would be given secret flat where you could rest without being noticed by patrols.

It's all about fantasy and real choices. Maybe one day we would see MMORPG that would involve stealth instead of "kill 10.000 rainbow monkeys because I said so".

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  ragz45

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5/23/13 2:24:45 AM#129
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR
Would you rather my little pony MMO? I know I wouldn't but I'm not a violent person, so yeah ... for people like you there is Hello Kitty Online. It's colorful enough :) 

Even my little pony has villians

  Cothor

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5/23/13 2:27:54 AM#130
The only real answer is that there is no God, we are animals floating on a rock, and combat is in our DNA and that will never change. Deal with it *shades*
  jimdandy26

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5/23/13 2:28:15 AM#131

I did battle with ignorance today, and ignorance won.

To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled - because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too cowardly to exercise it. The virtues which cloak these faults are called patience and forbearance.

  moshimo

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5/23/13 4:46:19 AM#132
Most games are just ripping each other off, which is why they're all starting to look the same.  YOu get a few successes that are all about war and killing and they're all gonna use that as a jump off point after a while.  We seriously need to start jumping on some more original games to at least keep the interest up.
  nariusseldon

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5/23/13 10:27:42 AM#133
Originally posted by Lithuanian

My two cents (again).

Stealth games may be not entirely on violence. Or, to make things better, they can offer great many choices.

Example: you are Allied top-spy and need to infiltrate Nazi facility, steal "Tiger IV" documentation and destroy equipment needed to produce these monster-tanks. And here you go with moral choices. You can kill the guard, sounding alarm (every kill does it) and fight too hard to neariest safe place. However, the more you kill, the more you are hated by any civilian or enemy and should you kill too much - everyone would try to kill you, also - do not expect any friendly civilian. You can knock the guard and have 45% probability of souding alarm - but if things go good, you just go to the neariest safe place. If you knock too much - Allied HQ will notice you refrain from violence and may drop some "silent way" equipment, commend you or even give a medal; civilians will be kind of friendly towards you. You can bypass guard, killing/knocking nobody. If you do it too much - enemy and civilians will respect you (reasons different, of course) and should some officer try to catch you - there is a good chance enemy soldier will try to be at your side, like "Herr Officer, but this Allied spy did not harm any of our men! He spared my life while he had a chance to kill!". Civilians will be helpfull: they will give you food, medicines, distract enemy patrols or occasionally self-sacrifice (however, up to first killing).

Imagine in this game player rushes to Tiger-IV base...and NPC asks to bring him to some place nearby, he would pay with a bunch of Reichsmarks. Player has to choose, whether this is Gestapo agent (and protagonist will be killed), deserter or civilian. Outcome may be different: if player acts positively towards civilians, they will help him: hide, give food, information. If player ignores civilians - they will mostly ignore him; if player is bad towards civilians - Allied war effort is slowed down, civilians become pro-Nazi.

Of course, in such game the more silent and stealth you are, the better equippment you may use. Be very silent and you could use enemy uniform with documents: nobody will suspect since you are Shadow, a legend whose face was not seen. Help great many civilians and one day you would be given secret flat where you could rest without being noticed by patrols.

It's all about fantasy and real choices. Maybe one day we would see MMORPG that would involve stealth instead of "kill 10.000 rainbow monkeys because I said so".


To some extent, stealth gameplay just give more choices, and have more shades of violence. The core is still conflict resolution even if avoidance & seek help from others become a part of it. It is fun .. i like it .. but the point is that it is still about violence, or the avoidance of it.

Secondly, i doubt it is suitable for a MMORPG. What is the point of stealth if you have 100 players infiltrating the same base? If you limit it to small group (like in an instanced), you may as well just do a lobby-based co-op game, which exists today.

 

  worldalpha

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5/23/13 10:50:39 AM#134
I'm making a game that has a huge focus on economy and politics, but it still has a military element to it.  How many successful purely economic games exist?  Not many.  There needs to be some sort of tension in a game to make it fun, and this usually involves war.

Thanks,
Mike
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  Scot

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5/23/13 10:53:42 AM#135
Do we have any care bear games online yet? Someone's belly button heart needs scratching.
  worldalpha

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5/23/13 10:59:41 AM#136
Originally posted by Scot
Do we have any care bear games online yet? Someone's belly button heart needs scratching.

Care Bears?  Boy that's dating yourself.

Thanks,
Mike
Working on Social Strategy MMORTS (now Launched!) http://www.worldalpha.com

  nariusseldon

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5/23/13 1:00:37 PM#137
Originally posted by Scot
Do we have any care bear games online yet? Someone's belly button heart needs scratching.

Hello Kitty online?

Farmville?

 

  karat76

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5/23/13 1:18:45 PM#138
I am partially with the OP in that it would be nice to have more options. Not saying no combat in a combat but just bring back so virtual worlds  like UO or a functional SWG or I would settle for a DAoC. Always enjoyed displaying my trophies and keeping my merchant full in DaoC at my house. It was a great place to unwind with guildies after killing dirty hibbies all day.
  Axehilt

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5/23/13 1:23:48 PM#139
Originally posted by karat76
I am partially with the OP in that it would be nice to have more options. Not saying no combat in a combat but just bring back so virtual worlds  like UO or a functional SWG or I would settle for a DAoC. Always enjoyed displaying my trophies and keeping my merchant full in DaoC at my house. It was a great place to unwind with guildies after killing dirty hibbies all day.

As called out on the first page of the thread:

  • Tons of non-combat games exist.
  • If you want them, play them.
  rojoArcueid

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5/23/13 1:24:21 PM#140

i think the game industry needs to have more variety of game styles and genres. Almost every game you purchase nowadays is focused on combat.

Nowadays zombie games are all about who kill more zombies.... back in the day when resident evil started it was all about who can survive the zombies and that was more fun.

I love a well made combat in my games but i would prefer to purchase a game where i can use visceral combat as a last resort specially if its a horror survival game like Resident evil and Dead space or a stealth game like Metal gear, Thief, Splinter cell, Deus ex, etc.

 

I would like to see similar survival mechanics in mmos where you can progress your character by surviving and only fight in PvE when necessary. For example, if the land is peaceful i dont need questing to kill rats. Dynamic content would add town sieges by both AI and enemy players so you fight when its necessary to survive (hunting for food and leathers or fighting back active enemies that are actually to invade you in real time, not just walking around in the forest).

 

Also, A sneaking mechanic like Skyrim for PvE while taking a more dynamic approach of the same mechanic for PvP. For example, sneaking in the shadows can render you totally invisible in PvP as long as you stay in the shadows.

My endgame begins with character creation and ends with a new mmorpg

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