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5/21/13 4:19:45 PM#101
Well in a game like WoW, it's basically a time sink since you don't earn all of your skills until the final level and most people want to get to that final level to "start" playing the game.  However, in GW2 where most of them are available at around level 35, the rest of the time is spent just doing events since there's not much of an endgame.  But basically, it doesn't matter.  You can get to max level in most of these games in no time.  I wish leveling had more depth.

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5/21/13 4:19:54 PM#102
Hard to disprove a universal truth. All gaming is a timesink. Running from A to B in a game is a timesink.

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5/21/13 4:20:30 PM#103
Originally posted by Sovrath

It's only mindless if you think/play that way.

Fault is the players'

You're either not in the right game, not willing to find some level of immersion in the world or not clear on what you want to get out of the game.

If one plays an elder scrolls game do you think "omg I've got to level, level LEVEL!"

Or do you just wander around, explore fight monsters or "thief it up" and through your actions you level accordingly?

Granted most mmo's don't have the freedom that an elder scrolls game has (sadly) but that doesn't mean you can't apply the same principles.


 Sovrath, do you really expect players to find fault with themselves?  Surely it must be anything but that!

Makes me wonder why they really want to be at the cap and why mmorpgs are the game for them.  Why not FPS, RTS or MOBA games?


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5/21/13 4:22:06 PM#104

And yet leveling is the only thing I truly enjoy!


I want to see another game that takes years to reach level cap but with player progression at timed intervals.  My ddream is to play an Asheron's Call type of MMO that takes a minimum of 2-3 years to reach the level cap on a 3-4 hour, 5 day play cycle (this would be gated too, anything more is not carried over to Eff with powerlevelers and non-conformists)  The thing with this system is that vertical progression is easily measured.  Don't get me wrong I love lengthy leveling times but hate not getting spells, abilities and stat upgrades in a timely fashion.  SO my game would have about on average every 2 hours an upgrade to either Stats, Abilities, or passive effects (like a talent tree).  This is ontop of gear acquisition, which would further help break up the length in between character progression.


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5/21/13 4:28:05 PM#105

I voted that I agree, they are a mindless time sink. But they don't have to be.

Considering the larger portion of MMO players today want to start at the "end game", we won't see this changing anytime soon. Money talks.

Just imagine an MMO where the leveling was interesting, where players were engaged with what they were doing.
Just think if there were multiple ways of dealing with the obstacles thrown in our paths.

Ahh... such a wondrous pipedream...


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5/21/13 4:28:24 PM#106
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Sovrath

It's only mindless if you think/play that way.

Fault is the players'

You're either not in the right game, not willing to find some level of immersion in the world or not clear on what you want to get out of the game.

If one plays an elder scrolls game do you think "omg I've got to level, level LEVEL!"

Or do you just wander around, explore fight monsters or "thief it up" and through your actions you level accordingly?

Granted most mmo's don't have the freedom that an elder scrolls game has (sadly) but that doesn't mean you can't apply the same principles.


 Sovrath, do you really expect players to find fault with themselves?  Surely it must be anything but that!


One can dream ...


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5/21/13 4:46:37 PM#107
I'm currently playing Dragon's Dogma which, whatever complaints I have with the game (which are substantial), the combat is awesome and I actually want to go beat up trash mobs. If mmorpgs could put in a compelling combat system like that as opposed to the usual press1-press-2-press3-hope-1-has-cooled-down-if-so-PRESS-IT, then I would grind all day with a smile on my face.

Now we're calling prostitutes "sex workers". What's next? Calling hit men "end-of-life technicians"?


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5/21/13 5:29:33 PM#108

 In MMOs, leveling is a mindless time sink prove me wrong

It's a mindset, that's all.

You "might" think grind, another person might think adventure.


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5/21/13 6:07:08 PM#109

Slow leveling means you get to spend alot of quality times in zones before moving on. Don't hafta change your gear constantly, makes the game last a lot longer.

Well for me anyways. I tried to play GW2 a month and a half, reached  cap, just didn't feel like going on with it. Guss i still prefer vertical proggression. The only mmo that i played alot of time with was ffxi, and i hardly did any end-game.

Wish developers would focas on middle game more, or just remove levels, then you wouldn't out level anything.


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5/21/13 6:32:43 PM#110

I haven't read the entire thread...sorry if this came up.  MMO's mimic real life.  You start off at level 1 with few abilities and quite vulnerable.   You have little knowledge of the game environment.  So, at level 1 you are given tasks.  These tasks are relatively challenging, but that challenge teaches you about life in the game.  So, you  progress through the levels.  You continue to grind through the quests and get more powerful and knowledgeable about life in the game.  Ultimately you hit max level and the natural progression is to move into the eternal grind for gear, that is end game.


Funny this whole game follows the EXACT same pattern that children, all over the world, go through school.  You start at Kindergarten and move your way through Grad School - End Game.  Then, you start the eternal grind which is adult life acquiring power, money, family, material things, etc.  People are conditioned, the world over, to operate like this.  levels separate and announce to all others your level of proficiency and ability and it is how we, at first, compare our  accomplishments against other's.


Finally, the OP should really pay attention to the spell checker that is built into the board.  Did he just think all that red was to "pretty" the post up? LOL


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5/21/13 6:37:12 PM#111

I'm not sure if I should post this as it may cause some people's reality to unravel. 

Video games are mindless time sinks. 


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5/21/13 6:46:45 PM#112

All I got to say is "Final Fantasy 11" before the increase leveling speed. I spent about 6 months (half casually,half not quite hard core) getting to level 40. But ill tell you what I LOVED every minute of it.

IMO FF11 balanced leveling/grinding/story and housing very well. Not to mention at anytime you could switch Jobs (classes) with just one character. Yes some you had to go on an adventure/quest for,but thats the POINT. it made it feel more worth it,more grounded because you had to earn that job(class). and it felt that much more rewarding.

but the biggest  dalema is you CANT please everyone.  Devs/publishers need to just focus on making a fun game. back before betas and forums lol :) where you bought a game and either: Loved it, Liked it, or Hated it.



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5/21/13 6:47:06 PM#113

I would reply, but, frankly its just easier to read my thoughts here.


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hallo ~_~

5/21/13 6:49:34 PM#114
i think what he meant to say was that its a non-enjoyable time sink.

hallo ~_~


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5/21/13 9:37:28 PM#115
Originally posted by Tierless

I would reply, but, frankly its just easier to read my thoughts here.

Read that and immediately stopped when I discovered it was glorfying a game that by all intents and purposes is reaching out to one of the smallest subset of players this side of MMO'dom.



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5/21/13 9:48:39 PM#116

Whether it is grinding levels or grinding skills, which is basically the same thing, if you find it a mindless time-sink then you're playing the wrong kind of game. You should stay away from anything with RPG in it.

Go somewhere else and play your Sports/FPS/Racing games.


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5/21/13 9:52:49 PM#117
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by pmiles



The reason why MMOs fail to deliver is because they've lost touch with what their essence is... a community based role playing game.  All people care about is the loot piñata... end game... that's it.  The part of the game that really requires the LEAST amount of effort to create.  Why create worlds at all if all you want to do is stay in a box killing the same thing over and over again for loot that will be replaced a week later?  Just log on, enter instance, kill something, log off.  Now that's what I call fun... NOT.  It's what you've turned every MMO into as of late.  The developers are giving you exactly what you've asked for... a shallow simple game with nothing more than a carrot before you.  You chose to ignore the world... ignore leveling... ignore just about everything but one... loot.  Might as well be at a casino plopping quarters in a slot... that's all you are really doing.

If that is the case, MMOs are very well designed to its audience. Job well done.

oh, what you are not calling fun .. many are .. otherwise, why do you think millions are playing MMOs?

Yet all the games that are designed around fast leveling to get to the loot pinata fail, or become insignificant at best.  you get the 'Rift effect': people loving the game at first yet leaving by the time 3 months were over.  Meanwhile most people werent even 60 after 3 months in WoW.

The *only* fast leveling success in the history of the genre is one without gear based progression waiting at the end.



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5/21/13 9:55:08 PM#118

Well I have done it, it took me some time a lot of research and some digging around in my storage closet. But I have it actual physical proof that video games( I even got more than he asked), are not a mindless time sink.

So just pm me the address of the bridge you live under,and it's in the mail.


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5/21/13 11:00:27 PM#119
I feel exactly the opposite as OP. For me the leveling is the fun part in any rpg. Once I reach the level cap I usually get very bored and move on to a different game because gear grinding is a mindless, boring time sink to me. Vanilla WoW was the only exception to this, for me. Edit to correct silly mobile auto-corrections.

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5/22/13 12:23:59 AM#120

The more games I play, the more I tend to agree with the OP's line of thought. The reason is that leveling in any new game will rarely (if ever) offer me something I haven't seen before.

Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.

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